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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on May 1, 2020 19:48:17 GMT -5
On the newest episode of the Major Wrestling Figure podcast. Matt and Brian do an interview with the makers of Darkside Of The Ring. In that they suggest they would like to do a Dark side of the ring series of figures. If that were to happen, there may be a chance for an Owen Hart fig. Hopefully Matt and Brian give them Jeremy Pawdawer's number. We could get some real holy grail figs.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 20:49:53 GMT -5
This has to be a joke. Padawer wouldn't be much of a help given that he's asked Martha about Owen before and got turned down flat. Her willingness to do a documentary on Owen doesn't show a willingness to let others profit off of his image. People can ing talk about that Hall of Fame induction all they want, she went along with it because she was told it was to honor him as an amateur wrestler. I don't know what it's going to take for people to stop doing this sh*t every couple of months, but the reality is that we're probably not getting a figure of him ever again. It's nice to dream, but at the point it feels like people are doing this as a running joke.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on May 2, 2020 3:28:49 GMT -5
This has to be a joke. Padawer wouldn't be much of a help given that he's asked Martha about Owen before and got turned down flat. Her willingness to do a documentary on Owen doesn't show a willingness to let others profit off of his image. People can ing talk about that Hall of Fame induction all they want, she went along with it because she was told it was to honor him as an amateur wrestler. I don't know what it's going to take for people to stop doing this sh*t every couple of months, but the reality is that we're probably not getting a figure of him ever again. It's nice to dream, but at the point it feels like people are doing this as a running joke. How is it a running joke if the creator's of a show expressed interest and did a 20 or so minute interview discussing making a dark side figure line? From everything I have heard is positive about families dealing with the VICE people. Clearly even in the trailer for the season she talks about how nobody should of been performing that stunt. So she and Oje (also heavily in the episode) talk about much more than just Owen's amateur wrestling. If these guys are talking about making a series and have spent countless hours interviewing and being around these families, talking about the most intimate, heart shattering details of these families lives, they very clearly have a better read of the temperature in the room than us.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 5:12:58 GMT -5
It's a running joke because every time any company starts a toy line on here, people make a post not unlike this one about how this is our chance to finally get Owen. It's not going to happen, she's not going to let someone profit off of his image. Clearly even in the trailer for the season she talks about how nobody should of been performing that stunt. So she and Oje (also heavily in the episode) talk about much more than just Owen's amateur wrestling. This episode doesn't explicitly deal with his HOF induction, which is what a lot of people on here hang on to when they try to argue that an Owen figure is plausible. Her also appearing to talk about the tragedy and rightfully trash WWE for killing her husband also doesn't mean that she's going to sign off his likeness for an action figure. And there's also the obvious connotation of a Dark Side of the Ring line being a line of figures that exists solely to make money off of tragedies. That's uh...not a good look. But yeah this is totally gonna be how we finally get an Owen Hart figure after 21 years. Sure.
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Post by Ruby Fusion on May 2, 2020 5:54:30 GMT -5
When asking Martha she'll probably slap you in the face...
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Post by Boon on May 2, 2020 18:59:24 GMT -5
Here we go again....
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 20:06:46 GMT -5
These threads should be auto-locks at this point. They always devolve into the same sh*t.
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Post by CMW Toys on May 4, 2020 12:35:30 GMT -5
It really is a shame that such an iconic performer will never get anymore mechadise, it's completely understandable but still a shame
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Post by micco on May 6, 2020 7:39:30 GMT -5
Anything is possible...
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Post by walkingturtles on May 6, 2020 10:31:02 GMT -5
It really is a shame that such an iconic performer will never get anymore mechadise, it's completely understandable but still a shame It stopped being a shame a few years ago. I understand Martha’s position for the decade and a half or so following his death. It would have been profiting off his death. At this point though, those still clamoring for merchandise from him are his true fans. At this point, releasing figures and shirts and other merchandise would be a celebration of Owen. I would be willing to bet that WWE would probably even donate most if not all the proceeds to his foundation. The longer this goes on the more people are going to turn on Martha. Owen deserves the honors and accolades, more so than most.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 10:58:30 GMT -5
This has to be a joke. Padawer wouldn't be much of a help given that he's asked Martha about Owen before and got turned down flat. Her willingness to do a documentary on Owen doesn't show a willingness to let others profit off of his image. People can ing talk about that Hall of Fame induction all they want, she went along with it because she was told it was to honor him as an amateur wrestler. I don't know what it's going to take for people to stop doing this sh*t every couple of months, but the reality is that we're probably not getting a figure of him ever again. It's nice to dream, but at the point it feels like people are doing this as a running joke. umm.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 11:41:56 GMT -5
This has to be a joke. Padawer wouldn't be much of a help given that he's asked Martha about Owen before and got turned down flat. Her willingness to do a documentary on Owen doesn't show a willingness to let others profit off of his image. People can ing talk about that Hall of Fame induction all they want, she went along with it because she was told it was to honor him as an amateur wrestler. I don't know what it's going to take for people to stop doing this sh*t every couple of months, but the reality is that we're probably not getting a figure of him ever again. It's nice to dream, but at the point it feels like people are doing this as a running joke. umm. Her taking a check to talk about Owen's life doesn't mean she's going to license his image to a company to make action figures to make a profit off of her husband. This really isn't hard to figure out, but I guess every Owen thread needs to become three pages of the same argument every time before they get locked.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 13:50:01 GMT -5
Her taking a check to talk about Owen's life doesn't mean she's going to license his image to a company to make action figures to make a profit off of her husband. This really isn't hard to figure out, but I guess every Owen thread needs to become three pages of the same argument every time before they get locked. I guess you think VICELAND is a nonprofit.
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Post by Armbar on May 6, 2020 15:53:16 GMT -5
I don't see a justification for where Marta draws the line on disrespecting her late husband by licensing Owen out. I think Bret is 100% in the right when he said that she should just back off and let people make good products to celebrate Owen's life.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 23:48:53 GMT -5
Her taking a check to talk about Owen's life doesn't mean she's going to license his image to a company to make action figures to make a profit off of her husband. This really isn't hard to figure out, but I guess every Owen thread needs to become three pages of the same argument every time before they get locked. I guess you think VICELAND is a nonprofit. I never said that. There's a difference between letting someone do a tv documentary and licensing his image to a toy company to mass produce products with his likeness. She's willing to tell his story, she's not willing to hand his image over for a company to produce merchandise and profit. Again, every Owen thread becomes like three pages of this exact sh*t. I don't understand why this same discussion has had to happen like six times in the last few months, or why these threads stay open as long as they do. It's the same discussion every time.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 4:58:40 GMT -5
I guess you think VICELAND is a nonprofit. I never said that. There's a difference between letting someone do a tv documentary and licensing his image to a toy company to mass produce products with his likeness. She's willing to tell his story, she's not willing to hand his image over for a company to produce merchandise and profit. Again, every Owen thread becomes like three pages of this exact sh*t. I don't understand why this same discussion has had to happen like six times in the last few months, or why these threads stay open as long as they do. It's the same discussion every time. Martha accepting a check from VICETV so they can PRODUCE a PRODUCT with his LIKENESS and then PROFIT off said product by selling advertising during the aired time slots is different to you than her receiving a check from a toy company that’s going to make money selling his figs? Oof
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Post by crush on May 9, 2020 2:57:09 GMT -5
Her taking a check to talk about Owen's life doesn't mean she's going to license his image to a company to make action figures to make a profit off of her husband. This really isn't hard to figure out, but I guess every Owen thread needs to become three pages of the same argument every time before they get locked. It’s honestly mind-boggling that people don’t get that Martha blames wrestling for Owen’s death. The idea that her appearing in a documentary that’s literally about the DARK SIDE of the business is a sign that she’s ready to let his likeness to used for figures and etc. is a Reed Richards level stretch.
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Post by Ruby Fusion on May 9, 2020 3:05:05 GMT -5
I never said that. There's a difference between letting someone do a tv documentary and licensing his image to a toy company to mass produce products with his likeness. She's willing to tell his story, she's not willing to hand his image over for a company to produce merchandise and profit. Again, every Owen thread becomes like three pages of this exact sh*t. I don't understand why this same discussion has had to happen like six times in the last few months, or why these threads stay open as long as they do. It's the same discussion every time. Martha accepting a check from VICETV so they can PRODUCE a PRODUCT with his LIKENESS and then PROFIT off said product by selling advertising during the aired time slots is different to you than her receiving a check from a toy company that’s going to make money selling his figs? Oof It's about the product... Documentary vs figure. In a documentary she has control, probably portraying Owen in a more beautiful way than he was in reality. Being confronted with a figure of a loved one who died in a horrible way in the ring just rips that wound! But you heartless collectors are like: "I want the damn figure, the heck with Martha let her bleed in her sorrow, she gets the money!"
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 3:29:19 GMT -5
I never said that. There's a difference between letting someone do a tv documentary and licensing his image to a toy company to mass produce products with his likeness. She's willing to tell his story, she's not willing to hand his image over for a company to produce merchandise and profit. Again, every Owen thread becomes like three pages of this exact sh*t. I don't understand why this same discussion has had to happen like six times in the last few months, or why these threads stay open as long as they do. It's the same discussion every time. Martha accepting a check from VICETV so they can PRODUCE a PRODUCT with his LIKENESS and then PROFIT off said product by selling advertising during the aired time slots is different to you than her receiving a check from a toy company that’s going to make money selling his figs? Oof Yes, they're different and it's obvious why they're different but you're arguing just to be obtuse. Taking a check to do a documentary where she gets to tell her story without any actual wrestling promotion or wrestling people having any involvement with how she tells the story and also where Vice is going to make minimal money because advertising on that show to begin with isn't an easy sell, much less on a network like Vice is different than her handing her husband's likeness over to a toy company to make action figures of her husband depicting his career that she was never a fan of specifically so the toy company and the wrestling promotion they're presumably a licensee with can make a ton of money. One of those she's not helping the wrestling business, the other she is. I look forward to your next reply further showcasing that you don't understand how this works. If she was okay with letting wrestling companies profit off of Owen, she'd have licensed him off years ago, she'd have opted out of suing WWE for the Hart Family DVD and publicly speaking out against the Owen DVD they did. But she's not. You don't seem to get this. And again, it's another thread breaking down into the same ing discussion. How many times in a six month span does this exact topic have to be argued in the exact same circles before these threads get shut down before the stupidity commenses? The one in the AEW board got to like four pages. It's insane. We're all chasing our tales here.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 6:02:40 GMT -5
Martha accepting a check from VICETV so they can PRODUCE a PRODUCT with his LIKENESS and then PROFIT off said product by selling advertising during the aired time slots is different to you than her receiving a check from a toy company that’s going to make money selling his figs? Oof It's about the product... Documentary vs figure. In a documentary she has control, probably portraying Owen in a more beautiful way than he was in reality. Being confronted with a figure of a loved one who died in a horrible way in the ring just rips that wound! But you heartless collectors are like: "I want the damn figure, the heck with Martha let her bleed in her sorrow, she gets the money!" this is one of the stupidest things I’ve read on these boards.
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