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Post by casanova on Jul 23, 2022 9:08:12 GMT -5
Ordered two Valentines. One for my loose collection and the other one to keep it MOC if I end up liking the card. If not, this should be an easy flip and I still need a black pants Switchblade.
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Post by casanova on Jul 23, 2022 11:01:06 GMT -5
Missed out on the No Holds Barred set yesterday.
As a result I just gave in and ordered a Series 2 full set + the excl. Blue Meanie and a second Haku. Still would like a second set of the BWO as a MOC set, but the €/$ rate didn’t help me either. May order a second set when it is in stock and if there is any stock left.
Btw the Retro Valentine is a sad attempt and cannot compete to the Chella version.
I am now looking forward to these and will try to contact Chella again in hopes of solving my issues.
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Post by newgenandy on Jul 23, 2022 12:44:31 GMT -5
Mattel are really pulling out the stops with the retros. Interesting to see what effect this may have on indie companies moving forward
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Post by figurehumble on Jul 23, 2022 16:40:29 GMT -5
The more I think about the Valentine release, the less I understand the logic. Why would anyone want a gimmick card featuring a crowd scene with four random strangers included in the image? I suspect the majority of people are interested in the Chellas because of their similarity to the Hasbro line and Valentine was a very significant missing piece. To not honour it with a Hasbro style card that fits in with the rest of the Chellas is a terrible idea. I believe they have got the design of the actual figure spot but they seem to have lost their minds with this idea. I wonder if I'm in the minority with this line of thought? Also wonder how receptive they would be to the feedback if enough people suggested a standard card is preferred? I'm a bit lost on this one, has the Chella Valentine card been revealed? Not the final card design but the concept is explained on the Wrestling Trader website. Basically they are running a competition whereby 4 fans will have their likeness included as part of a crowd scene drawn by Brian Tipping on the card. The wording on the advertising is also styled to look like the old Rock n Wrestling cartoon which really has nothing to do with the RnB Valentine so I hope that is just part of the marketing material and not the card itself. It does certainly feel like this is in response to the Mattel reveals but the message I think Chella and Wrestling Trader needs to hear is that their figure is actually better than the Mattel one and they have been doing a better job with the look and feel as compared to the original Hasbros so I believe they should continue with that approach and not panic based on the Mattel reveals. The logic of including the likeness of 4 fans on the card artwork would realistically only satisfy those 4 people and the rest of the buyers will have no interest in the random people chosen taking up space on the card. I doubt strongly that having your image included on the card would serve as any kind of motivation for the average Hasbro collector - I've certainly never once thought the designs would be improved by having an image of myself included so I think the logic is very flawed. I personally will be purchasing both the Chella and the Mattel as long as the Chella has the option for a proper card even if they still persist with the far less appealing gimmick concept as a separate option. I definitely understand their concern but I think this latest idea is a very bad one and will achieve the opposite of what they were hoping to achieve. |
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Post by figurehumble on Jul 23, 2022 16:46:41 GMT -5
Mattel are really pulling out the stops with the retros. Interesting to see what effect this may have on indie companies moving forward As a complete set they are really looking a lot more refined than they first did with some of the isolated images we first saw. I think the Chellas capture the Hasbro look a little more faithfully and I personally will be supporting both lines. I like that the Chellas mimic the Hasbro bodies a lot more closely but also appreciate the Mattel spin on it and both will make for very nice collections. I think if Chella keeps designing the way they have and stays focused on regular delivery of figures in hand and tightens up communication a little, they will still do well. |
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Post by casanova on Jul 23, 2022 17:26:41 GMT -5
I'm a bit lost on this one, has the Chella Valentine card been revealed? Not the final card design but the concept is explained on the Wrestling Trader website. Basically they are running a competition whereby 4 fans will have their likeness included as part of a crowd scene drawn by Brian Tipping on the card. The wording on the advertising is also styled to look like the old Rock n Wrestling cartoon which really has nothing to do with the RnB Valentine so I hope that is just part of the marketing material and not the card itself. It does certainly feel like this is in response to the Mattel reveals but the message I think Chella and Wrestling Trader needs to hear is that their figure is actually better than the Mattel one and they have been doing a better job with the look and feel as compared to the original Hasbros so I believe they should continue with that approach and not panic based on the Mattel reveals. The logic of including the likeness of 4 fans on the card artwork would realistically only satisfy those 4 people and the rest of the buyers will have no interest in the random people chosen taking up space on the card. I doubt strongly that having your image included on the card would serve as any kind of motivation for the average Hasbro collector - I've certainly never once thought the designs would be improved by having an image of myself included so I think the logic is very flawed. I personally will be purchasing both the Chella and the Mattel as long as the Chella has the option for a proper card even if they still persist with the far less appealing gimmick concept as a separate option. I definitely understand their concern but I think this latest idea is a very bad one and will achieve the opposite of what they were hoping to achieve. Speak only for yourself man. EVERY design would be improved by having an image of me included. |
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Post by figurehumble on Jul 23, 2022 17:43:22 GMT -5
Not the final card design but the concept is explained on the Wrestling Trader website. Basically they are running a competition whereby 4 fans will have their likeness included as part of a crowd scene drawn by Brian Tipping on the card. The wording on the advertising is also styled to look like the old Rock n Wrestling cartoon which really has nothing to do with the RnB Valentine so I hope that is just part of the marketing material and not the card itself. It does certainly feel like this is in response to the Mattel reveals but the message I think Chella and Wrestling Trader needs to hear is that their figure is actually better than the Mattel one and they have been doing a better job with the look and feel as compared to the original Hasbros so I believe they should continue with that approach and not panic based on the Mattel reveals. The logic of including the likeness of 4 fans on the card artwork would realistically only satisfy those 4 people and the rest of the buyers will have no interest in the random people chosen taking up space on the card. I doubt strongly that having your image included on the card would serve as any kind of motivation for the average Hasbro collector - I've certainly never once thought the designs would be improved by having an image of myself included so I think the logic is very flawed. I personally will be purchasing both the Chella and the Mattel as long as the Chella has the option for a proper card even if they still persist with the far less appealing gimmick concept as a separate option. I definitely understand their concern but I think this latest idea is a very bad one and will achieve the opposite of what they were hoping to achieve. Speak only for yourself man. EVERY design would be improved by having an image of me included.  |
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Post by freaqualizer on Jul 23, 2022 17:51:28 GMT -5
I have decided not to order the Chella RnB Valentine due to the Mattel figure. NOT because I do not like the Chella version, and not because I prefer the Mattel version. It’s only because I have to get the Mattel version, and don’t want to spend the additional funds on the Chella version and have a duplicate version of the same wrestler/look.
Honestly, I was pretty torn on what to do in order to avoid the duplicate figure. But, ultimately came to this conclusion.
Originally, the Mattel Valentine shown had knee pads, which almost swayed my decision on the Chella version. But, other pics have shown him without knee pads.
And since both figures will probably be in hand at around the same time, my FOMO won’t be too strong. LoL
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Post by walter7paisley on Jul 23, 2022 21:16:42 GMT -5
I'm a bit lost on this one, has the Chella Valentine card been revealed? Not the final card design but the concept is explained on the Wrestling Trader website. Basically they are running a competition whereby 4 fans will have their likeness included as part of a crowd scene drawn by Brian Tipping on the card. The wording on the advertising is also styled to look like the old Rock n Wrestling cartoon which really has nothing to do with the RnB Valentine so I hope that is just part of the marketing material and not the card itself. It does certainly feel like this is in response to the Mattel reveals but the message I think Chella and Wrestling Trader needs to hear is that their figure is actually better than the Mattel one and they have been doing a better job with the look and feel as compared to the original Hasbros so I believe they should continue with that approach and not panic based on the Mattel reveals. The logic of including the likeness of 4 fans on the card artwork would realistically only satisfy those 4 people and the rest of the buyers will have no interest in the random people chosen taking up space on the card. I doubt strongly that having your image included on the card would serve as any kind of motivation for the average Hasbro collector - I've certainly never once thought the designs would be improved by having an image of myself included so I think the logic is very flawed. I personally will be purchasing both the Chella and the Mattel as long as the Chella has the option for a proper card even if they still persist with the far less appealing gimmick concept as a separate option. I definitely understand their concern but I think this latest idea is a very bad one and will achieve the opposite of what they were hoping to achieve. I get you, thanks for the explanation. That's definitely a put-off unless it's an alternate card. I mean it's great for whoever wins, but for everyone else... I also agree that Chella are currently bettering the Mattel retros. |
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Post by hulkjoegan on Jul 24, 2022 6:10:07 GMT -5
I have decided not to order the Chella RnB Valentine due to the Mattel figure. NOT because I do not like the Chella version, and not because I prefer the Mattel version. It’s only because I have to get the Mattel version, and don’t want to spend the additional funds on the Chella version and have a duplicate version of the same wrestler/look. Honestly, I was pretty torn on what to do in order to avoid the duplicate figure. But, ultimately came to this conclusion. Originally, the Mattel Valentine shown had knee pads, which almost swayed my decision on the Chella version. But, other pics have shown him without knee pads. And since both figures will probably be in hand at around the same time, my FOMO won’t be too strong. LoL You could always get them both, and decide whether to keep the Chella one once you’ve seen it in hand 🤷🏻♂️ Just it would suck to pass on it and then end up regretting that decision. |
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Post by hulkster on Jul 24, 2022 6:53:16 GMT -5
I've ordered the Chella Greg, I do prefer the Mattel design but going to keep the Chella MOC, it's not a bad price really.
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jul 24, 2022 8:03:08 GMT -5
In a lot of ways I felt bad for Chella once Mattel showed off the R&B Greg. To me, each company did things I liked as well as things I do not care for.
For Mattel, I prefer their approach. It’s closer to the original Hasbro had planned. However, the hair is too big, the guitar is still too big, and I don’t want him having sunglasses especially since the face sculpt is one of the best they have done.
Chella did a good job at reimagining the figure. I appreciate the detail put into the jacket. The guitar also appears to be appropriately sized. The bad? The face and glasses make him look closer to Elvis or HTM than it does Greg and the outfit is more colorful than I would prefer it to be.
I’m curious if they were tipped off early about the Mattel one because it makes almost no sense for them to be making a figure that doesn’t have the punch mechanism look to it. This also has me wondering if that is why they unexpectedly made changes to Haku 🤔
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Post by Burger Lad on Jul 24, 2022 12:36:06 GMT -5
Thankfully, Wrestling Trader have announced via Twitter that Greg Valentine will be offered on a normal card back. You have to email them.
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Post by hulkjoegan on Jul 24, 2022 12:48:30 GMT -5
In a lot of ways I felt bad for Chella once Mattel showed off the R&B Greg. To me, each company did things I liked as well as things I do not care for. For Mattel, I prefer their approach. It’s closer to the original Hasbro had planned. However, the hair is too big, the guitar is still too big, and I don’t want him having sunglasses especially since the face sculpt is one of the best they have done. Chella did a good job at reimagining the figure. I appreciate the detail put into the jacket. The guitar also appears to be appropriately sized. The bad? The face and glasses make him look closer to Elvis or HTM than it does Greg and the outfit is more colorful than I would prefer it to be. I’m curious if they were tipped off early about the Mattel one because it makes almost no sense for them to be making a figure that doesn’t have the punch mechanism look to it. This also has me wondering if that is why they unexpectedly made changes to Haku 🤔 Pretty sure Chella stated the changes to Haku were due to comments from the man himself. And I’m glad about the changes - really don’t like the Anvil body for Haku like was originally planned. |
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jul 24, 2022 15:22:52 GMT -5
In a lot of ways I felt bad for Chella once Mattel showed off the R&B Greg. To me, each company did things I liked as well as things I do not care for. For Mattel, I prefer their approach. It’s closer to the original Hasbro had planned. However, the hair is too big, the guitar is still too big, and I don’t want him having sunglasses especially since the face sculpt is one of the best they have done. Chella did a good job at reimagining the figure. I appreciate the detail put into the jacket. The guitar also appears to be appropriately sized. The bad? The face and glasses make him look closer to Elvis or HTM than it does Greg and the outfit is more colorful than I would prefer it to be. I’m curious if they were tipped off early about the Mattel one because it makes almost no sense for them to be making a figure that doesn’t have the punch mechanism look to it. This also has me wondering if that is why they unexpectedly made changes to Haku 🤔 Pretty sure Chella stated the changes to Haku were due to comments from the man himself. And I’m glad about the changes - really don’t like the Anvil body for Haku like was originally planned. I vaguely recall that but I think you are right. But who knows what may have influenced his decision? Purely speculation for fun 😝 |
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Post by figurehumble on Jul 25, 2022 4:22:54 GMT -5
Thankfully, Wrestling Trader have announced via Twitter that Greg Valentine will be offered on a normal card back. You have to email them. I think that's a very positive outcome. |
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Post by RedDevil on Jul 29, 2022 12:31:58 GMT -5
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Post by @brit_figs on Jul 29, 2022 13:10:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2022 8:51:11 GMT -5
30 more ruddy days for Big daddy, crikey 8 months plus at this point.. Better be worth the wait. Both the brown and blue Haystacks being sent out? or just the brown one?.
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Post by walter7paisley on Jul 30, 2022 17:58:17 GMT -5
Mattel are really pulling out the stops with the retros. Interesting to see what effect this may have on indie companies moving forward Their insistence on selling them as a set is gonna lose them some custom, imo. I don't want to buy a set just to get the odd figure here and there, and buying them secondary seems like a fruitless task with the high prices people seem to be selling them at. |
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