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Post by marino13 on Aug 13, 2020 22:05:13 GMT -5
*edit* wow, its been a LONG time since anyone has used this The be fair, I'm the one that made the insensitive joke that caused the last thread to get deleted by Jack. So I'm probably not the best judge on this one.
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Post by FLUX on Aug 14, 2020 12:47:03 GMT -5
I want to believe the guy's innocent, but the audio recordings and Josh Fuller's statement really throws any hope for that to the wayside.
Million dollar talent, ten cent head.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Aug 14, 2020 22:34:49 GMT -5
Honestly, we need to take away liking him as a performer to his actual actions as a human being. I think it’s weird enough that there’s audio of him talking to a boy. That alone should question things and that’s probably not the first time he’s done this. It’s just disguising to have people like this being glamorized by fans and younger kids.
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Post by Evil Abed on Aug 15, 2020 10:03:21 GMT -5
I don’t see this playing out well. It just feels like the situation where something worse is going to come to light while they’re still pushing him.
I would’ve kept him on the shelf longer at this point because what does it really matter. You don’t have live fans and NXT has a ton of other talent that it doesn’t need Dream at the moment.
WWE is just asking for a PR nightmare from this.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 15, 2020 10:15:35 GMT -5
WWE has one of the greatest rosters of all time. VD isn't worth the risk.
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Post by Newsted on Aug 15, 2020 12:28:11 GMT -5
WWE has one of the greatest rosters of all time. VD isn't worth the risk. He isn't even anything special. Mediocre in the ring, a gimmick that anyone could do. Just ship him off to jail already.
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Post by drifter on Aug 15, 2020 14:06:15 GMT -5
Honestly, we need to take away liking him as a performer to his actual actions as a human being. I think it’s weird enough that there’s audio of him talking to a boy. That alone should question things and that’s probably not the first time he’s done this. It’s just disguising to have people like this being glamorized by fans and younger kids. You have to remember though, there are still fans out there, that want to do the separating the performer from the man, so they can praise a certain Canadian wrestler despite what he did to his family.
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Post by shenmue on Aug 17, 2020 17:52:44 GMT -5
HHH Comments:
“You know, in this day today, accusations are made and you take them all very seriously,” Levesque explained to CBS Sports. “You look into them the best you can, and you find out what is there and what isn’t. In this situation, [Dream] was also involved in a car accident. That’s what took him off TV. In the moment, all this other stuff happens and you look into it and you find that there is a situation that people bring to everyone’s attention, you look into it and find that it is what it is and there’s nothing there.”
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 17, 2020 18:22:34 GMT -5
HHH Comments: “You know, in this day today, accusations are made and you take them all very seriously,” Levesque explained to CBS Sports. “You look into them the best you can, and you find out what is there and what isn’t. In this situation, [Dream] was also involved in a car accident. That’s what took him off TV. In the moment, all this other stuff happens and you look into it and you find that there is a situation that people bring to everyone’s attention, you look into it and find that it is what it is and there’s nothing there.” Literally didn’t talk to Fuller, one of his biggest accusers.
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 17, 2020 18:59:02 GMT -5
Literally didn’t talk to Fuller, one of his biggest accusers. Finally someone that sees through the bullcrap. Big nose is just trying to protect his boy. Too many fans are quick to rush and say things like “They obviously looked into it and found out the accusations were fake” but that’s clearly not the case. Companies care about who will draw still and fans are quick to defend people they are a fan of. It’s weird. Show me one victim who has benefited from speaking out. Most of them get death threats from fans. I fully believe Dream is guilty here but it’s never going to really matter to WWE or his fans. It sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 19:13:40 GMT -5
Ooof. That's a pretty daring take there Haitch.... It is what it is.. Well, at least he was honest about that part lol. Due diligence, it was not.
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Post by Odafin Tutuola on Aug 17, 2020 19:38:54 GMT -5
The only demo a Velveteen Dream match gets is the 12-18 unlike Jericho and his 18-49 demo.
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Post by rkmo: Just a Fact of Life on Aug 19, 2020 13:19:32 GMT -5
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 19, 2020 13:55:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 14:35:57 GMT -5
Listened to HHH on the conference call. Someone straight up asked him about Velveteen, the accuser claiming he hasn't contacted him, and Nia Jax' clown emoji's. Haitch just straight up dodged everything and repeated his line of "we looked into it, we didn't find anything, as far as we were looking for, and it's been dealt with, so I don't want to talk about it". I'm paraphrasing slightly, but that's essentially what he said.
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Post by rkmo: Just a Fact of Life on Aug 19, 2020 14:47:06 GMT -5
Listened to HHH on the conference call. Someone straight up asked him about Velveteen, the accuser claiming he hasn't contacted him, and Nia Jax' clown emoji's. Haitch just straight up dodged everything and repeated his line of "we looked into it, we didn't find anything, as far as we were looking for, and it's been dealt with, so I don't want to talk about it". I'm paraphrasing slightly, but that's essentially what he said. Quote as reported by Wrestling News: “We looked into it, didn’t find anything there in the matter of what we were looking for and we moved on. But that doesn’t change the fact that we take it seriously.” wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/triple-h-says-wwe-has-moved-on-despite-velveteen-dreams-accuser-saying-the-company-never-reacehed-out-during-investigation/
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Post by hbkowns on Aug 19, 2020 16:52:46 GMT -5
There was an alarming amount of evidence there. I don’t see how you “looked into it” and simply came to the conclusion that there’s nothing there. He’s generated a bunch of heat from people in the back. Finn kinda just posted what he feels about him. He’s not worth the trouble to keep him around.
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Post by Darkhawk on Aug 19, 2020 21:10:00 GMT -5
Anyone see the garbage bag post Finn posted on his Instagram xD
I honestly don't think VD will get along with the guys backstage over all this.
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Post by Purple Reigns on Aug 19, 2020 21:45:38 GMT -5
More screenshots and videos of the victims have been posted, this time with even more evidence.
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Post by FLUX on Aug 19, 2020 22:21:08 GMT -5
#FireVelveteenDream is trending on Twitter.
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