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Post by sonstuds on Sept 7, 2020 22:06:49 GMT -5
For those thinking it would kill Archer if he lost, back in ROH when Nigel McGuiness had that long title reign, he beat a challenger more than once. Claudio Castagnoli(Cesaro in wwe) comes to mind. Claudio's gimmick wasn't that he was supposed to be a huge, destructive monster though. Why and will you stop watching if they do? I think the AEW title needs to remain prestigious, and Archer isn’t a major draw to me. I like the guy AND the wrestler, A LOT. Him winning would be a weird turn of events (especially since I believe Kenny will win the title, but not enough to make me stop watching. I believe that it’d be a deal breaker for a lot of people. Plus, eNoUgH eX-WwE tALeNt WiNniNG tHe aEw cHaMpiOnSHiP 😉 I agree with pretty much everything you said, but it all comes down to why even book Archer to win the battle royal in that case? It's giving Archer a completely unnecessary and avoidable loss, and gives Moxley a win that I don't even think he needs. Unless Archer does end up winning, in which case fair enough cause I would not have seen that coming. |
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Post by snowjorden on Sept 7, 2020 23:59:10 GMT -5
Sorry if I come off that way. I don’t feel like I “give them chances”. I enjoy the majority of what they do. Did you watch TNA? If so, how long? I watched on and off from 2005-2014, but should have stopped permanently in 2007.Isn't that the truth. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 8, 2020 6:43:30 GMT -5
For those thinking it would kill Archer if he lost, back in ROH when Nigel McGuiness had that long title reign, he beat a challenger more than once. Claudio Castagnoli(Cesaro in wwe) comes to mind. Claudio's gimmick wasn't that he was supposed to be a huge, destructive monster though. I think the AEW title needs to remain prestigious, and Archer isn’t a major draw to me. I like the guy AND the wrestler, A LOT. Him winning would be a weird turn of events (especially since I believe Kenny will win the title, but not enough to make me stop watching. I believe that it’d be a deal breaker for a lot of people. Plus, eNoUgH eX-WwE tALeNt WiNniNG tHe aEw cHaMpiOnSHiP 😉 I agree with pretty much everything you said, but it all comes down to why even book Archer to win the battle royal in that case? It's giving Archer a completely unnecessary and avoidable loss, and gives Moxley a win that I don't even think he needs. Unless Archer does end up winning, in which case fair enough cause I would not have seen that coming. Archer winning the Battle Royale makes him look good. Moxley beating the guy who won the Battle Royale makes him look good. Whomever ends up beating Moxley after a long run will look even better. I’m totally fine with another title loss for Archer because he’d just get more frustrated, angry, and dangerous.That can only go so far, but I think it’s the right move. |
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Post by LK3 on Sept 8, 2020 7:42:04 GMT -5
I’m not into Archer at all. Him winning the battle royal was a bit disappointing for me. Mox is definitely gonna be champion until at least Revolution though.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 8, 2020 9:31:20 GMT -5
I’m not into Archer at all. Him winning the battle royal was a bit disappointing for me. Mox is definitely gonna be champion until at least Revolution though. I think it depends on who challenges him at Full Gear. I don't think Archer will be the guy (that feels like a special episode of Dynamite type deal). |
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Post by sonstuds on Sept 8, 2020 9:54:50 GMT -5
Claudio's gimmick wasn't that he was supposed to be a huge, destructive monster though. I agree with pretty much everything you said, but it all comes down to why even book Archer to win the battle royal in that case? It's giving Archer a completely unnecessary and avoidable loss, and gives Moxley a win that I don't even think he needs. Unless Archer does end up winning, in which case fair enough cause I would not have seen that coming. Archer winning the Battle Royale makes him look good. Moxley beating the guy who won the Battle Royale makes him look good. Whomever ends up beating Moxley after a long run will look even better. I’m totally fine with another title loss for Archer because he’d just get more frustrated, angry, and dangerous.That can only go so far, but I think it’s the right move. *shrugs* Agree to disagree. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 8, 2020 9:57:17 GMT -5
Archer winning the Battle Royale makes him look good. Moxley beating the guy who won the Battle Royale makes him look good. Whomever ends up beating Moxley after a long run will look even better. I’m totally fine with another title loss for Archer because he’d just get more frustrated, angry, and dangerous.That can only go so far, but I think it’s the right move. *shrugs* Agree to disagree. totally cool with that. lol Who would you have picked to win the Battle Royale if the idea is for them to lose to Mox? For that role, I thought Kingston would have been perfect. |
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Post by K5 on Sept 8, 2020 11:56:29 GMT -5
*shrugs* Agree to disagree. totally cool with that. lol Who would you have picked to win the Battle Royale if the idea is for them to lose to Mox? For that role, I thought Kingston would have been perfect. Kingston/Mox would be great. Kingston would outbrawl the brawler and in many ways be Mox's toughest opponent and the promos we'd get! |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 8, 2020 13:31:06 GMT -5
totally cool with that. lol Who would you have picked to win the Battle Royale if the idea is for them to lose to Mox? For that role, I thought Kingston would have been perfect. Kingston/Mox would be great. Kingston would outbrawl the brawler and in many ways be Mox's toughest opponent and the promos we'd get! Not gonna lie, I say that mostly for the build. IF Moxley's days as champ are numbered, Kingston either needs to challenge or be his first feud post-title. Like I said, I'm a fan of Archer's but I was bummed 'cause it meant Moxley/Kingston would have to wait. |
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Post by sonstuds on Sept 8, 2020 13:53:37 GMT -5
*shrugs* Agree to disagree. totally cool with that. lol Who would you have picked to win the Battle Royale if the idea is for them to lose to Mox? For that role, I thought Kingston would have been perfect. Kingston is by far the best pick, but pretty much anyone who isn't Archer or Cage and I wouldn't think anything of it. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 8, 2020 14:01:38 GMT -5
totally cool with that. lol Who would you have picked to win the Battle Royale if the idea is for them to lose to Mox? For that role, I thought Kingston would have been perfect. Kingston is by far the best pick, but pretty much anyone who isn't Archer or Cage and I wouldn't think anything of it. Anything besides their previous title loses? |
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Post by sonstuds on Sept 8, 2020 14:10:38 GMT -5
Kingston is by far the best pick, but pretty much anyone who isn't Archer or Cage and I wouldn't think anything of it. Anything besides their previous title loses? Honestly no. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 8, 2020 14:21:16 GMT -5
Anything besides their previous title loses? Honestly no. I might feel the same with Cage, but again another big loss for Archer would make him more angry and dangerous. Not trying to sway you, but I'd be interested to see what they'd do with him after a loss to Mox. |
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Post by LK3 on Sept 8, 2020 16:19:51 GMT -5
I’m not into Archer at all. Him winning the battle royal was a bit disappointing for me. Mox is definitely gonna be champion until at least Revolution though. I think it depends on who challenges him at Full Gear. I don't think Archer will be the guy (that feels like a special episode of Dynamite type deal). I’m a little hesitant to think that it will be a Dynamite match, since two months to Full Gear is the shortest build they will have for a PPV to date. Not that they can’t do something different in that time frame, but it could still be a little underwhelming depending who his opponent is and how the build goes. Just gonna have to wait and see. |
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Post by Angusdacat on Sept 8, 2020 16:43:50 GMT -5
I think it depends on who challenges him at Full Gear. I don't think Archer will be the guy (that feels like a special episode of Dynamite type deal). I’m a little hesitant to think that it will be a Dynamite match, since two months to Full Gear is the shortest build they will have for a PPV to date. Not that they can’t do something different in that time frame, but it could still be a little underwhelming depending who his opponent is and how the build goes. Just gonna have to wait and see. I'm pretty confident at this point that we are Getting Moxley/Omega II at Full Gear for the one year anniversary of the first match. I feel like the Archer match is only going to get a few weeks of buildup and then they are going to move on from him like they did with Cage. |
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Post by BaLoR RoLLiNS on Sept 8, 2020 21:43:43 GMT -5
I’m a little hesitant to think that it will be a Dynamite match, since two months to Full Gear is the shortest build they will have for a PPV to date. Not that they can’t do something different in that time frame, but it could still be a little underwhelming depending who his opponent is and how the build goes. Just gonna have to wait and see. I'm pretty confident at this point that we are Getting Moxley/Omega II at Full Gear for the one year anniversary of the first match. I feel like the Archer match is only going to get a few weeks of buildup and then they are going to move on from him like they did with Cage. Does Mox want to relive the snake scene from all those years ago on Raw throwback? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 23:52:16 GMT -5
Wardlow should have won the Casino Battle Royal. It books itself.
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Post by tiny04 on Sept 9, 2020 12:09:49 GMT -5
On the subject of the Casino Battle Royal, Darby Allin is a  ing idiot and he has to be told no from time to time. That bodybag spot was so reckless and unnecessary. And I can't imagine the other guys in the match were too pleased about half the ring being covered in thumbtacks. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 12:15:33 GMT -5
On the subject of the Casino Battle Royal, Darby Allin is a ing idiot and he has to be told no from time to time. That bodybag spot was so reckless and unnecessary. And I can't imagine the other guys in the match were too pleased about half the ring being covered in thumbtacks. 💯. Darby absolutely needs to be told no sometimes. I think someone else mentioned it, but I'm guessing we're beginning to see why he and Gabe had a bad relationship. I get the feeling he doesn't take well to being told no. I think we're also understanding why he hasn't been pushed to the moon like it seemed he would have been based on initial receptions. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 9, 2020 13:30:47 GMT -5
Honestly, that bodybag spot is on the safer side of sh*t Darby's done. Go back and watch it. Cage really protected him by making sure he was lined up and fell properly.
It's cringe, but stuff like that gets him over and he does it sparingly. Listen to the response his entrance got with fans. Might have been the loudest of the night. As long as TK doesn't ask him to do crazy things that put him at risk and has the willingness to tell Darby no when he wants to something crazier, I'm cool with Darby doing whatever he wants.
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