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Post by sonstuds on Oct 22, 2020 14:08:34 GMT -5
My experience with Eddie Kingston is pretty limited. Some of his stuff in Chikara/CZW around '05 and now his AEW run mostly. That said, am I going overboard to say he's legitimately one of the greatest mic workers ever? I firmly believe he could be cast in a gritty HBO drama and not look out of place.
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 22, 2020 14:08:49 GMT -5
IMHO, if you don't "get" the humor behind the MJF/Jericho segment, you will never get it. It was brilliant, smart humor. Maybe DX toilet humor is more your thing. there's nothing humble about that opinion lol. you can like it without insulting or demeaning those that don't. get off that horse. I didn't enjoy the segment. that doesn't mean those that enjoyed it are stupid or that didn't enjoy it are stupid. but what could be debated is if that belonged on a wrestling show or not. some feel it does, others do not. For me it's Honest not Humble. |
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Post by K5 on Oct 22, 2020 14:20:35 GMT -5
My experience with Eddie Kingston is pretty limited. Some of his stuff in Chikara/CZW around '05 and now his AEW run mostly. That said, am I going overboard to say he's legitimately one of the greatest mic workers ever? I firmly believe he could be cast in a gritty HBO drama and not look out of place. I wouldn't say he has enough work under his belt to be a contender for greatest yet, but he's a throw back to territory days when guys could really talk. that's for sure. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 14:30:30 GMT -5
there's nothing humble about that opinion lol. you can like it without insulting or demeaning those that don't. get off that horse. I didn't enjoy the segment. that doesn't mean those that enjoyed it are stupid or that didn't enjoy it are stupid. but what could be debated is if that belonged on a wrestling show or not. some feel it does, others do not. For me it's Honest not Humble. That doesn't make it better. |
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Post by Zigzag on Oct 22, 2020 14:36:03 GMT -5
My only gripe with the 'Sing-y Eat-y Time' segment, was that it was out of place on an otherwise stacked wrestling show.
It was excellent for what it was. Somewhere, Rosie O'Donnell was smiling.
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 22, 2020 14:38:55 GMT -5
For me it's Honest not Humble. That doesn't make it better. Ok, how about Hellashish? Hokey? Hungarian? Hot-Tempered? Hangry? Half-Horticulturizingly-Hip? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 14:49:57 GMT -5
It was great, can't wait to hear the backlash from dinosaurs like Cornette, Disco and Korderas If Russo didn’t like it, he’s the biggest hypocrite in the world! |
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Post by bWo on Oct 22, 2020 20:02:48 GMT -5
When are you going to realize you don't have to just be satisfied and accept the "misses?" You admit something is "ridiculous" and then just brush it off as part of the show. Why? What kind of expectations are those? If you think something sucks you're allowed to say it sucks just as much as you're allowed to say you think something was awesome. I hope so anyways. Wrestling can be good and bad. That's not a secret. You're not ahead of the curve. Not everyone is willing to watch a show and clap everything off just because they're a fan overall. Not everyone nods and smiles while they watch wrestling, so there's no reason to think they should post on here like they do. I think Jericho/MJF will be a big payoff, but I definitely don't think they need to be singing and dancing on the way to getting there. They were just trying (failing) to be funny. It was an unfunny "comedy" segment on a wrestling show. What was supposed to be the outcome there? The fans think they're both funny? We already know that because they're funny on the mic. We don't need a comedy skit. They could have added a match. Had some of the matches go a bit longer. I would have been fine with more Lucha Bros. Brian Cage could have mauled someone in a match and gave the FTW title some cred AND THEN Taz does that promo. They could have cut that waste of time dinner segment and done a bunch of other things to make the wrestling show even better. But they went for singing and dancing instead. That's not what I want to see when I watch Dynamite. Wardlow smashing the smaller Jungle Boy. Kenny Omega returns with a huge bang. FTR tries to break the Buck's ankle. Moxley and Kingston are talking about killing each other. Penta and Fenix are slapping the living sh*t out of each other. Oh, and Chris Jericho and MJF were singing and dancing........... No thanks. Aren't you the one that loves cinematic matches? Hahahahaaha. You DEFINITELY have me confused with someone else. Tony Khan still owes me my $50 back for bullsh*tting me and not advertising that Stampede Brawl as a cinematic match. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Oct 22, 2020 20:13:00 GMT -5
I don’t get the huge love or hate for the Jericho/MJF thing. It’s pretty much the same kind of hokey comedy skit that sports entertainment companies have been doing for decades, no different than the Otis/Mandy Rose dream sequence, the Stadium Stampede match, and DX going to Little People’s Court under the ring. Jericho looked like he was about to explode or have a heart attack at one point though. He was blown up like Brock Lesnar.
The most memorable part of the show (and not in a good way) for me was the jobber getting knocked out and the other guys in the match dragging him around, and doing spots with him or on top of him. Absolutely ridiculous. They didn’t learn anything from the Matt Hardy situation. The kid went into fencing position after Private Party jumped on him. That’s scary as hell. I hope he’s okay, but the company needs to smarten up about injuries. If Tony’s out of his depth, he should hire a couple of experienced wrestling people to oversee this kind of stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 22:33:08 GMT -5
Fenix took a nasty bump in his match too. He was talking to Aubrey for a while and they really stalled the match out. He eventually seemed to recover, but again no way of knowing if it's a concussion or not. Aew has not had the best track record with injuries so far. That said, new Japan is probably still worse. Not that it makes it ok of course, but given that a lot of their big talent has heavy new Japan experience it might explain the attitude towards all of it.
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Post by K5 on Oct 23, 2020 0:28:51 GMT -5
I don’t get the huge love or hate for the Jericho/MJF thing. It’s pretty much the same kind of hokey comedy skit that sports entertainment companies have been doing for decades, no different than the Otis/Mandy Rose dream sequence, the Stadium Stampede match, and DX going to Little People’s Court under the ring. Jericho looked like he was about to explode or have a heart attack at one point though. He was blown up like Brock Lesnar. The most memorable part of the show (and not in a good way) for me was the jobber getting knocked out and the other guys in the match dragging him around, and doing spots with him or on top of him. Absolutely ridiculous. They didn’t learn anything from the Matt Hardy situation. The kid went into fencing position after Private Party jumped on him. That’s scary as hell. I hope he’s okay, but the company needs to smarten up about injuries. If Tony’s out of his depth, he should hire a couple of experienced wrestling people to oversee this kind of stuff. i just went back to see the main event and yikes, i didn't realize just how out of it he clearly was. big failure on the ref, others involved in the match, and aew itself in terms of safety and employee well being. they need to be more on this ish. you'd think the matt hardy incident would've been a wake up call. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 13:17:22 GMT -5
I don’t get the huge love or hate for the Jericho/MJF thing. It’s pretty much the same kind of hokey comedy skit that sports entertainment companies have been doing for decades, no different than the Otis/Mandy Rose dream sequence, the Stadium Stampede match, and DX going to Little People’s Court under the ring. Jericho looked like he was about to explode or have a heart attack at one point though. He was blown up like Brock Lesnar. The most memorable part of the show (and not in a good way) for me was the jobber getting knocked out and the other guys in the match dragging him around, and doing spots with him or on top of him. Absolutely ridiculous. They didn’t learn anything from the Matt Hardy situation. The kid went into fencing position after Private Party jumped on him. That’s scary as hell. I hope he’s okay, but the company needs to smarten up about injuries. If Tony’s out of his depth, he should hire a couple of experienced wrestling people to oversee this kind of stuff. i just went back to see the main event and yikes, i didn't realize just how out of it he clearly was. big failure on the ref, others involved in the match, and aew itself in terms of safety and employee well being. they need to be more on this ish. you'd think the matt hardy incident would've been a wake up call. Sloppy shop. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 13:22:12 GMT -5
Fenix is officially out of the tourney because of that injury, so we get Penta advancing instead
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Post by snowjorden on Oct 23, 2020 13:41:49 GMT -5
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Post by Yambag Jones on Oct 23, 2020 14:45:09 GMT -5
Great addition to the ongoing Kingston/Fenix/Pentagon story.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Oct 23, 2020 16:13:39 GMT -5
I saw a youtube vid title that said the Dinner Debonair divided fans, and I actually couldn't believe anyone could think badly of it.
It was honestly one of the very best things I have ever seen in 20+ years of watching pro-wrestling on a weekly basis.
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Oct 23, 2020 16:42:05 GMT -5
Was waiting for confirmation after I read the spoiler from last night's taping.
Would this be the second time Fenix was taken out for health concerns, with the other being the Casino Ladder Match last May after a rough bump to the outside during the build.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 16:59:22 GMT -5
Fenix is basically a Mexican Naito/Ibushi. Dude hates his neck. I remember an insanely scary spot in Impact where he tried to spanish fly Ortiz off a ladder, got stuck mid rotation and essentially dropped himself on his head, missing the table that Ortiz and he were supposed to both go through. Could easily have paralyzed himself in that match.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Oct 24, 2020 1:01:39 GMT -5
The Jericho/MJF sketch was great - but that is to be expected from two performers, who ooze personality... MJF is such a talented m(j)f'er - his singing was even better than Jericho's. I would much rather watch something like that, than Britt Baker trying to wrestle - although it didn't help that the other woman is even worse than she is. That was a terrible match, that for the most part, looked like it was being filmed in slow-motion. It must suck for Baker to know that she could be outshone - both in and out of the ring, by her 'sidekick' Reba/Rebel, at any given minute. I just hope they don't wait too long, to turn her on Baker. I don’t get the huge love or hate for the Jericho/MJF thing. It’s pretty much the same kind of hokey comedy skit that sports entertainment companies have been doing for decades, no different than the Otis/Mandy Rose dream sequence, the Stadium Stampede match, and DX going to Little People’s Court under the ring. Jericho looked like he was about to explode or have a heart attack at one point though. He was blown up like Brock Lesnar. You're forgetting that AEW is not sports-entertainment... Oh wait... it is. The hate for that segment, mostly comes from those who have bought into the notion, of AEW being a serious wrestling company - and an alternative to WWE's yucky, 'sports-entertainment'... Except thats a complete fallacy. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 1:12:07 GMT -5
The Jericho/MJF sketch was great - but that is to be expected from two performers, who ooze personality... MJF is such a talented m(j)f'er - his singing was even better than Jericho's. Mjf is 100% a better singer than Jericho. I like Fozzy but Jericho is not really a very good singer. Works for a rock band fine though. I found an old clip of mjf singing in an acapella group when he was in high school. He's definitely had formal training. |
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