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Post by sonstuds on Feb 17, 2021 23:52:11 GMT -5
Really disappointed that they ended up relegating some of the matches to Dark. It was necessary on the Japanese side, but they really couldn't have found any time in the course of two weeks to get Baker/Jay and Conti/Rose on TV? Also by the time this tournament ends Riho will have made more Dynamite appearances in the past like six months then Nyla Rose lol
And kind of off topic but not really but Serena Deeb is the most underrated wrestler in AEW and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise. Like every match she has is great and becomes a weekly highlight. Getting dangerously close to Shida's title run ending and them never facing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 1:03:26 GMT -5
Really disappointed that they ended up relegating some of the matches to Dark. It was necessary on the Japanese side, but they really couldn't have found any time in the course of two weeks to get Baker/Jay and Conti/Rose on TV? Also by the time this tournament ends Riho will have made more Dynamite appearances in the past like six months then Nyla Rose lol And kind of off topic but not really but Serena Deeb is the most underrated wrestler in AEW and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise. Like every match she has is great and becomes a weekly highlight. Getting dangerously close to Shida's title run ending and them never facing. I'm sad too, but this all still feels like so much of a step in the right direction. 2 of the last 3 weeks women have gotten better spots on the card. They've been getting actual match time. We've been getting segments and promos. I think it's finally turning a corner. I also get the feeling Nyla has been dealing with some personal stuff and not on much for that reason. Just a hunch though really I have no source. I feel like now people are realizing just how damn good Serena is. Her and Conti were such clutch pickups. Serena's still got a lot of great years in front of her and goddamn is she a pleasure to watch in the ring. So freaking smooth. Her and shida may not meet for the titles, but eventually they meet up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 1:14:15 GMT -5
Also, the semi final between Riho and thunder Rosa not being on dynamite may be unintentional. They may have planned for both of those to air, but next week is not live, and Rosa is stuck in Texas because of the storm right now. Miranda and likely some others made it out in time but Rosa didn't.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 12:56:28 GMT -5
I think my picks have changed lol.
I'm convinced Ryo mizunami is winning the Japan side and moving to America full time.
I'm also becoming convinced thunder Rosa is actually going to be the one to win the tournament and take the title off Shida in their rematch. Britt taking the title from Rosa has more heat that her taking it from Shida. Rosa gets her revenge on Britt from their last match, setting up an eventual rubber match for Britt to get the title. Likewise Rosa getting to beat Shida after losing before makes sense to show how she's grown. Ryo can comfortably lose the finals before starting her full time venture here.
Riho losing to Rosa is a weird reintroduction, but it just helps set the stage for riho long term since she's presumably moved to America as permanently as Shida has.
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Post by sonstuds on Feb 19, 2021 15:16:12 GMT -5
I think my picks have changed lol. I'm convinced Ryo mizunami is winning the Japan side and moving to America full time. I'm also becoming convinced thunder Rosa is actually going to be the one to win the tournament and take the title off Shida in their rematch. Britt taking the title from Rosa has more heat that her taking it from Shida. Rosa gets her revenge on Britt from their last match, setting up an eventual rubber match for Britt to get the title. Likewise Rosa getting to beat Shida after losing before makes sense to show how she's grown. Ryo can comfortably lose the finals before starting her full time venture here. Riho losing to Rosa is a weird reintroduction, but it just helps set the stage for riho long term since she's presumably moved to America as permanently as Shida has. It's the best long term booking and it keeps Thunder Rosa around. Ever since that report that she was going to sign with the WWE I've watched every match of hers thinking it'll be her last and I don't like it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 15:20:46 GMT -5
I really don't know where the idea ever came from she's going to WWE. There's like 0% chance that happens imo. She's said pretty publicly she's not willing to go anywhere that would make her give up other things i.e. her desire to get in an MMA cage, and her ability to run Mission Pro Wrestling. Both of those things go away with WWE. AEW will likely promote her fighting in an MMA promotion, and they've already been talent sharing for Mission Pro.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 20:12:32 GMT -5
K obviously spoilers, but if you haven't seen tonight's yet, why are you looking in this thread??
Great night again tonight.
I'm confused by this timeline... So riho/thunder Rosa happens on Sunday. The actual finals are Wednesday after that (March 3rd. We are getting the Japan final and a special 6 woman tag on Sunday too. When the hell are they going to do the American final??
That said...
Conti vs. Nyla was strong. Conti didn't get quite enough offense in imo, but that's being nit picky. The story of the match was Nyla's experience with many styles vs Conti's limited range of experience, and I thought they did a good job at doing the youth vs experience story there. Different match than I'm used to from Nyla but whatever the reason for the time off, she looked good in her return. No Vicki though. Not sure if Vicki just wasn't there when they taped it or if they're abandoning that. Likewise no Anna for Tay.
Yuka/Emi was easy match of the night. I think we saw things from each that we haven't seen from them in aew yet. Obvious winner was obvious but a very good traditional face/heel comeback match.
Aja/Ryo has me nearly 100% convinced Ryo is winning the Japanese side but losing in the finals. I usually don't like count out finishes but this one was nice. Japan often puts together creative count outs when they happen.
Britt/Madi was the squash that wasn't a squash, which was perfect. We have only seen Madi like twice so far, so we got more time to see how she is at selling, etc. I think she's got a ton of potential and I hope I see more of her in aew. Nice touch post match for Britt.
They're definitely telling the Britt/Rosa story with this tournament. Does make me wonder how long ago Anna actually hurt herself.
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Post by sonstuds on Feb 22, 2021 22:59:16 GMT -5
Enjoyed it tonight and while the winners made sense in regards to who they were facing I stand by my opinion that Nyla Rose vs. Britt Baker is a questionable booking decision. I dunno, I just don't know why you'd have the only heels on the American side facing each other at any point but meh, we'll see.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 23:08:25 GMT -5
Enjoyed it tonight and while the winners made sense in regards to who they were facing I stand by my opinion that Nyla Rose vs. Britt Baker is a questionable booking decision. I dunno, I just don't know why you'd have the only heels on the American side facing each other at any point but meh, we'll see. It's not like Madi Wrenkowski is a face either lol. They really just kind of stacked all the heels on one side. Very strange indeed. Does lead to suspicion about no Vickie with Nyla, letting her work the face role of the match more.
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Post by sonstuds on Feb 25, 2021 18:43:23 GMT -5
Nyla Rose out here destroying brackets like she's Florida Gulf Coast.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 19:16:14 GMT -5
Nyla Rose out here destroying brackets like she's Florida Gulf Coast. Haha yuuuuup. Every tournament needs an upset. As much as everyone (myself included) had Britt pegged to win at least the American bracket, I still maintain the title needs Britt more than Britt needs the title. I could even see them furthering the stories by having Britt take the NWA title off of Deeb, which gives her another reason to continue the Rosa feud, as well as give Britt more firepower for the mic, being able to complain that despite being the face of the company, etc, etc, she somehow ended up with the NWA title before the AEW one. Honestly Nyla wouldn't be my first pick, since it's kinda like "what was the point of all this to have the same person win again", the women are getting actual dynamite time, putting on incredible matches, and doing a ton to improve their status in the company and put the women's division on the map. So really, I don't give a flying you know what who wins the whole thing. I'm just thrilled they've put this tournament together and are exposing the audience to the quality of matches these women are capable of.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 20:11:03 GMT -5
Well huge issues with trying to stream it internationally. I was able to watch on b/r live, but after some mega issues TK just put the thing on YouTube. Fun night. Six woman tag was super fun, and very Joshi lol. Plenty of silly spots but lots of great wrestling too.
I am not surprised at all mizunami won. Yuka was wrestling in Japan on the 27th so it was kinda easy to figure out.
Thunder Rosa/riho was excellent. Looking forward to many more matches between those two. They brought a lot but it was very clear they left lots for the future too.
US finals tomorrow! Curious about the undercard. Just a couple matches but still curious who it's going to be.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Mar 1, 2021 20:06:31 GMT -5
What an awful booking decision, I don’t get it in the slightest. Nyla literally beat what were probably the three hottest female acts in the company in the last two months.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 20:18:50 GMT -5
What an awful booking decision, I don’t get it in the slightest. Nyla literally beat what were probably the three hottest female acts in the company in the last two months. If Ryo doesn't go over, it makes no sense (barring Nyla retiring, or something weird like that). I agree about WHO she went over, especially Britt and (Thunder Rosa is effectively gone since NWA will be filming in a few weeks). Hopefully it makes sense, long-term.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 20:37:43 GMT -5
Never really been into Nyla so this whole outcome is just bizarre to me. I was sure Britt or Rosa were winning it
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 1, 2021 21:32:49 GMT -5
I hate this division
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Post by stc13 on Mar 1, 2021 21:44:31 GMT -5
This. Everything about the way they've handled the division is the polar opposite of why I've enjoyed every other aspect of the company. It sticks out like a sore, badly booked, thumb.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Mar 1, 2021 21:50:41 GMT -5
This. Everything about the way they've handled the division is the polar opposite of why I've enjoyed every other aspect of the company. It sticks out like a sore, badly booked, thumb. It’s been really really weird. Like Shida won the belt and they proceeded to do absolutely nothing with her or the title in a meaningful way, and yea they sent her over to produce the tournament but that also meant taking her off of TV for six weeks which is obviously an odd choice to make. I read that Kenny books the division but I mean maybe he just isn’t a good booker, like maybe it just isn’t for him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 22:54:29 GMT -5
Very strange indeed. The most logical thing I can think of, is that they feel by having Ryo beat Nyla, it will help establish her as a legitimate opponent for Shida and an important person in the division even when she loses to Shida at the ppv.(pretty sure she is moving to the States for the foreseeable future just like riho did). Obviously riho is a former champion as well, but they probably wanted a face/heel dynamic for the tourney final, even if it leads to face/face at the ppv.
I dunno, I totally get why people aren't psyched, but I'm not really all that bothered by Nyla winning the American side even if it's not my first choice. They've done so much this tournament to suggest they're taking the women's division more seriously, that I can't really get too wound up over a booking decision that doesn't suggest they're planning on holding the women back more. I'm still more bothered by Jericho/mjf getting the tag title shot if I'm being honest. If Nyla beats Ryo on Wednesday then my opinion changes. Nothing against her but the whole tournament to set up the third match would be really bad booking.
That all said I thought the Nyla/Rosa match was really good, but I liked both Nyla/Baker and Rosa/riho better.
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Post by sonstuds on Mar 1, 2021 23:02:17 GMT -5
I'm not gonna get too hasty yet because I still expect Ryo to win (would they really go through the trouble of flying her over for just one match?), but part of me wants to see Nyla win just for the pure lol of it all. It's not that I have anything against her and match quality wise I think she's had a good showing, but in a tournament with 16 people in it she would be the 15th most interesting person who could win and that's because Madi Wrenkowski wasn't even supposed to be in it. But simply playing devil's advocate I'd argue that it makes Ryo look pretty strong going into a title match if she beats someone who beat Britt Baker and Thunder Rosa. And I really, really cannot see a scenario in which they have Shida vs. Nyla for the title two PPVs in a row. Very strange indeed. The most logical thing I can think of, is that they feel by having Ryo beat Nyla, it will help establish her as a legitimate opponent for Shida and an important person in the division even when she loses to Shida at the ppv.(pretty sure she is moving to the States for the foreseeable future just like riho did). Obviously riho is a former champion as well, but they probably wanted a face/heel dynamic for the tourney final, even if it leads to face/face at the ppv. Word.
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