jokerjohn
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Post by jokerjohn on Aug 10, 2021 11:10:01 GMT -5
I think adding the second and third tiers from the beginning was a mistake. Some people may not have joined unless that 7K mark was hit. They should have left it at the initial backing goal and added the extra stuff if it was achieved.
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zen411
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Post by zen411 on Aug 10, 2021 11:19:49 GMT -5
I think many are waiting until Friday since there is no benefit to buying before that and I think it’s just how many people are. But if it’s not close Friday after 9pm then this will not happen unless Mattel has something else lined up. I have funded by the way but many will wait I believe. What’s the point of waiting if you know you are going to do it? Friday is a payday for me and I assume others too.
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Post by Warriah' on Aug 10, 2021 11:39:15 GMT -5
If Ringside or any other site buys large quantities, that's going to alienate ALOT of people who bought this for only a few pieces and were planning on selling the stuff they didn't want to recoup some of their investment. The secondary market will be flooded. It’s pretty much impossible to flood the secondary market with items that are so ridiculously limited.
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Post by The Gang on Aug 10, 2021 11:43:17 GMT -5
I think many are waiting until Friday since there is no benefit to buying before that and I think it’s just how many people are. But if it’s not close Friday after 9pm then this will not happen unless Mattel has something else lined up. I have funded by the way but many will wait I believe. What’s the point of waiting if you know you are going to do it? Well I could be wrong but I believe there will be a big rush on Friday. That’s just the nature of deadlines. But after Friday very few will fund this knowing they missed that Macho Man.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Aug 10, 2021 11:46:28 GMT -5
Imagine RSC being the hero and buying the remaining amount to fund the project then a year from now all the hate their gonna get by selling Macho and the announcer set for $100, Diesel for $80, the ring for $150, and the entrance for $90.
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Post by zen411 on Aug 10, 2021 11:49:29 GMT -5
Imagine RSC being the hero and buying the remaining amount to fund the project then a year from now all the hate their gonna get by selling Macho and the announcer set for $100, Diesel for $80, the ring for $150, and the entrance for $90. They'd better buy enough to get to Doink too.
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Post by Warriah' on Aug 10, 2021 11:54:42 GMT -5
Imagine RSC being the hero and buying the remaining amount to fund the project then a year from now all the hate their gonna get by selling Macho and the announcer set for $100, Diesel for $80, the ring for $150, and the entrance for $90. Supply and demand baby
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Post by guster on Aug 10, 2021 11:55:13 GMT -5
If Ringside or any other site buys large quantities, that's going to alienate ALOT of people who bought this for only a few pieces and were planning on selling the stuff they didn't want to recoup some of their investment. The secondary market will be flooded. It’s pretty much impossible to flood the secondary market with items that are so ridiculously limited. Not in this scenario people keep proposing - if a 3rd party bought 1,000 of these to reach the 5K, that's 1,000 units that would have previously went unsold to actual buyers. If people weren't willing to buy those last 1K to get to 5K, what makes you think they'll all of the sudden want it after the fact?
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Post by jokerjohn on Aug 10, 2021 11:56:37 GMT -5
If this somehow hits 5K there could be a huge surge afterwards with all those people who said they'd back it if it was getting made but if it's after the Macho deadline that could also put people off even if it's over 5K
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Post by Warriah' on Aug 10, 2021 12:05:29 GMT -5
It’s pretty much impossible to flood the secondary market with items that are so ridiculously limited. Not in this scenario people keep proposing - if a 3rd party bought 1,000 of these to reach the 5K, that's 1,000 units that would have previously went unsold to actual buyers. If people weren't willing to buy those last 1K to get to 5K, what makes you think they'll all of the sudden want it after the fact? Same reason why as soon as ringside exclusives are no longer in stock they skyrocket in eBay. Everyone had an opportunity to buy them for cost on RSC, but that doesn’t stop them paying a colossal amount more on eBay. 5000 is nothing. As soon as these Machos are in hand and on eBay people are going to go crazy for them in particular. Mail away Hasbro level.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Aug 10, 2021 12:22:02 GMT -5
I just backed it. Cost $280 with shipping and taxes. I could see why people find it expensive imo,free shipping would of been cool. Anyways, I actually hope we get to 5k at least.
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Post by guster on Aug 10, 2021 13:02:23 GMT -5
Not in this scenario people keep proposing - if a 3rd party bought 1,000 of these to reach the 5K, that's 1,000 units that would have previously went unsold to actual buyers. If people weren't willing to buy those last 1K to get to 5K, what makes you think they'll all of the sudden want it after the fact? Same reason why as soon as ringside exclusives are no longer in stock they skyrocket in eBay. Everyone had an opportunity to buy them for cost on RSC, but that doesn’t stop them paying a colossal amount more on eBay. 5000 is nothing. As soon as these Machos are in hand and on eBay people are going to go crazy for them in particular. Mail away Hasbro level. When RSC exclusives sell out, a 3rd party isn't sitting on an extra 1K units.
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Aug 10, 2021 13:02:39 GMT -5
Has anyone from Canada backed this yet? If so, what did your total come to? What was the shipping charge and was there any communication about duties?
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Post by rkmo: Just a Fact of Life on Aug 10, 2021 13:08:11 GMT -5
Imagine RSC being the hero and buying the remaining amount to fund the project then a year from now all the hate their gonna get by selling Macho and the announcer set for $100, Diesel for $80, the ring for $150, and the entrance for $90. Imagine those here bashing this project now snatching up 4x of everything pieced out later.
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Post by The Real Chillary on Aug 10, 2021 13:15:34 GMT -5
If Ringside or any other site buys large quantities, that's going to alienate ALOT of people who bought this for only a few pieces and were planning on selling the stuff they didn't want to recoup some of their investment. The secondary market will be flooded. It’s pretty much impossible to flood the secondary market with items that are so ridiculously limited. It is possible when you can't even get 5000 people to back it as it is.
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Post by zen411 on Aug 10, 2021 13:21:56 GMT -5
I just backed it. Cost $280 with shipping and taxes. I could see why people find it expensive imo,free shipping would of been cool. Anyways, I actually hope we get to 5k at least. Ooof. That's an extra 30 bucks the price alone of an ultimate edition. It's why I've been. So back and forth. I could do a lot with 280. Is it worth it for macho and diesel and a light up entrance?
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Post by legendsguy on Aug 10, 2021 13:29:03 GMT -5
Imagine RSC being the hero and buying the remaining amount to fund the project then a year from now all the hate their gonna get by selling Macho and the announcer set for $100, Diesel for $80, the ring for $150, and the entrance for $90. Imagine those here bashing this project now snatching up 4x of everything pieced out later. just like the pre-order saga... rofl. ill never forget that.
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Post by stc13 on Aug 10, 2021 13:37:09 GMT -5
I just backed it. Cost $280 with shipping and taxes. I could see why people find it expensive imo,free shipping would of been cool. Anyways, I actually hope we get to 5k at least. Ooof. That's an extra 30 bucks the price alone of an ultimate edition. It's why I've been. So back and forth. I could do a lot with 280. Is it worth it for macho and diesel and a light up entrance? I get your point, but looking at the other side of the coin... You're paying tax on (just about) any figure you buy. And $15 shipping for an item of this size and weight is an absolute steal. It's $10 for shipping a single figure. Let's say Elites come out to around $21 in store or $25 through RSC pre-order. Ultimates are $32 in store, or $36 through RSC. Possibly more if you pay for shipping. So best case, that's the price of 13 Elites. Personally, I could easily go through my collection and point out 13 figures I could live without - impulse purchases, repaints that I already had, guys I'm not a huge fan of, etc. Plus you're ignoring the ring. Even if it's not an item you want, there's a resale value to it that recoups a decent chunk of your cost.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2021 13:42:28 GMT -5
It’s pretty much impossible to flood the secondary market with items that are so ridiculously limited. Not in this scenario people keep proposing - if a 3rd party bought 1,000 of these to reach the 5K, that's 1,000 units that would have previously went unsold to actual buyers. If people weren't willing to buy those last 1K to get to 5K, what makes you think they'll all of the sudden want it after the fact? Dude where are you coming up with this logic? There have been COUNTLESS figures and playsets from a multitude of different companies that didn’t sell initially and in some cases made it to Big Lots, and then skyrocketed as soon as they weren’t widely available anymore. What on earth makes you think this would be any different? The Ultimate line is on fire right now and the resale value for most of them turns insane within the same calendar year. If this somehow gets funded, the Ultimates alone (not even including Doink btw) will cover the buy in on this whole set before you know it. I love you.
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Post by guster on Aug 10, 2021 14:09:51 GMT -5
Not in this scenario people keep proposing - if a 3rd party bought 1,000 of these to reach the 5K, that's 1,000 units that would have previously went unsold to actual buyers. If people weren't willing to buy those last 1K to get to 5K, what makes you think they'll all of the sudden want it after the fact? Dude where are you coming up with this logic? There have been COUNTLESS figures and playsets from a multitude of different companies that didn’t sell initially and in some cases made it to Big Lots, and then skyrocketed as soon as they weren’t widely available anymore. What on earth makes you think this would be any different? The Ultimate line is on fire right now and the resale value for most of them turns insane within the same calendar year. If this somehow gets funded, the Ultimates alone (not even including Doink btw) will cover the buy in on this whole set before you know it. I love you. What you're comparing and what I'm talking about aren't the same thing. It's an apples and oranges comparison. I'm talking about a $250 set with multiple pieces and you're trying to compare that to a $10 Elite at Big Lots from 3-4 years ago before there was a huge collector's boom. You're cherry picking specifically the Ultimates to make a theoretical point and completely neglecting the ring and entrance stage that are also part of this package. My original point: If they're are roughly around 4K who back this, and some 3rd party comes in backs the remaining 1K with the idea of the breaking up the set to sell the pieces individually, that would screw a bunch of people who may have backed this with the idea of selling the ring or entrance to offset costs. If a 3rd party buys 1K - the set IS NOT SOLD OUT. If something isn't sold out, the value inherently isn't there. And let's be real, nobody in this thread has said they are specifically buying this just for the ring. It's the least desired item of the set and is what's dragging this down from succeeding.
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