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Post by Bramahummel on Aug 11, 2021 13:54:54 GMT -5
It's a epic fail due to Mattel focuses only to Usa market..A lot of european and asian collectors want to buy this bundle, but they dont wanna pay a lot of money for international shipping and CUSTOMS. I would like to see what ActionFigureAttack thinks about this failing strategy (and others like lines for only usa stores). What are you talking about? Shipping costs to europe are only 15$. Ringside takes 60$ shipping a ring to europe |
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Post by Bafio on Aug 11, 2021 14:04:20 GMT -5
It's a epic fail due to Mattel focuses only to Usa market..A lot of european and asian collectors want to buy this bundle, but they dont wanna pay a lot of money for international shipping and CUSTOMS. I would like to see what ActionFigureAttack thinks about this failing strategy (and others like lines for only usa stores). Have you tried to place an order? Shipping is insanely inexpensive. yeah, I bought Stg Slaughter...we have a lot of problems with custom duties in this case, but for others the problem is extended to shipping costs. Mattel is based in US, but they have international connections throught suppliers, wholesalers, sellers etc. so they could focus on european market like other toys lines. |
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Aug 11, 2021 14:22:45 GMT -5
International shipping is crazy cheap and for U.K. people, even if we might get an import charge (seems hit and miss to me) it won’t be THAT much…especially when you consider the exchange rate is very good vs the US Dollar at the moment. With Shipping this set is only costing U.K. customers about £190.
I think Mattel can take some of the heat deservedly for this not being a slam dunk but I’ve discovered there’s also a lot of collectors that are either being very naive or not bothering to research to understand what this offering is and what the actual costs are.
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Post by Bafio on Aug 11, 2021 14:31:24 GMT -5
there is not only uk, european collectors are even from Germany, Italy, France, Spain countries with Euro currency.
If you wanna import this ring you need to pay at least 300 euros (product+shipping and customs). That's a huge barrier for us, because Mattel has decided to focuses wwe products only in USA.
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Post by Billy Snorticus on Aug 11, 2021 14:44:15 GMT -5
53% incoming
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Aug 11, 2021 14:45:03 GMT -5
Mattel definitely isn't responsible for customs, any more than they are responsible for taxes in the US.
What a wild thing to lay at their feet. It's an American manufacturer offering a product directly to the consumer.
Where the consumer happens to reside shouldn't be part of their overall production costs.
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Post by Brother Brother on Aug 11, 2021 14:49:47 GMT -5
there is not only uk, european collectors are even from Germany, Italy, France, Spain countries with Euro currency. If you wanna import this ring you need to pay at least 300 euros (product+shipping and customs). That's a huge barrier for us, because Mattel has decided to focuses wwe products only in USA. it's about 270€. Edit:But you are right they should focus more on europe, 60€ for a legend is a little much |
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Post by Vamp55 on Aug 11, 2021 14:51:23 GMT -5
It's a epic fail due to Mattel focuses only to Usa market..A lot of european and asian collectors want to buy this bundle, but they dont wanna pay a lot of money for international shipping and CUSTOMS. I would like to see what ActionFigureAttack thinks about this failing strategy (and others like lines for only usa stores). Umm, international shipping is $15. This is the cheapest shipping a company has done for us international collectors ever. I almost fell off my chair even I ordered my 2 and the shipping was (and I’ll say it again) $14.95 to Australia. As for customs, that is something you’ll need to take up with your government. How is that Mattels fault? I understand other lines (Legends for instance) being exclusive to the US and the frustration for us international collectors, but Mattels biggest accounts for WWE are US retailers like Target and Walmart. Of course they are going to cater most to the areas that make them the most money. 🤷♂️🤦♂️ |
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Post by Brother Brother on Aug 11, 2021 14:55:09 GMT -5
Correct me if i'm wrong but i think last year they charged 60€ shipping for 2 mr.t's
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Bramahummel
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Post by Bramahummel on Aug 11, 2021 15:01:45 GMT -5
there is not only uk, european collectors are even from Germany, Italy, France, Spain countries with Euro currency. If you wanna import this ring you need to pay at least 300 euros (product+shipping and customs). That's a huge barrier for us, because Mattel has decided to focuses wwe products only in USA. Its not true. Im from Germany. Bought 2, each 220 Euro incl shipping. So with customs all in 270 Euro |
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Post by Warriah' on Aug 11, 2021 15:02:14 GMT -5
We’re past 53!
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Post by Bafio on Aug 11, 2021 15:02:29 GMT -5
Imho Mattel's fault is not for the customs but for the entire organization about wwe toys line. They have a lot of toys line and they have been focusing worldwide, making up wholesales in Europe and avoiding to the customers extra costs like international shipping and customs. They just bring basic and elite series in uk and really few figures in eu thanks to amazon.
In 2021 for a big company this model is unacceptable, if you wanna buy a legends figure you have to pay from 60 to 80 euros like ddp (what a shame!).
So pls dont cry about this failing crowfunding project, they didnt give us the possibily to pay the right price cause 300 euros for a ring and 2 ue is a crazy price.
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Post by Bafio on Aug 11, 2021 15:03:45 GMT -5
there is not only uk, european collectors are even from Germany, Italy, France, Spain countries with Euro currency. If you wanna import this ring you need to pay at least 300 euros (product+shipping and customs). That's a huge barrier for us, because Mattel has decided to focuses wwe products only in USA. Its not true. Im from Germany. Bought 2, each 220 Euro incl shipping. So with customs all in 270 Euro After the 1th July we have new bad rules about customs, now you should pay more fixed costs if you pay more than 150 euros. |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Aug 11, 2021 15:06:53 GMT -5
Mattel can't force the hand of their customers (the retailers/wholesalers/etc.) and make them buy the product.
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Post by Bafio on Aug 11, 2021 15:08:14 GMT -5
Mattel can't force the hand of their customers (the retailers/wholesalers/etc.) and make them buy the product. just making a warehouse in eu like a classic company of his size. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 15:08:29 GMT -5
Dude where are you coming up with this logic? There have been COUNTLESS figures and playsets from a multitude of different companies that didn’t sell initially and in some cases made it to Big Lots, and then skyrocketed as soon as they weren’t widely available anymore. What on earth makes you think this would be any different? The Ultimate line is on fire right now and the resale value for most of them turns insane within the same calendar year. If this somehow gets funded, the Ultimates alone (not even including Doink btw) will cover the buy in on this whole set before you know it. I love you. The only thing I’d say different is the price on this Ultimates are $30 in the states? And they go for like $100-$150 online depending on rarity, desirability etc. So like a 3x to 5x mark up. I can’t see people spending $750 to $1250 for this. So while there will likely be some sort of secondary market for this it won’t likely be on the same % increase on the dollar based on how much that would be. I could see down the line someone not collecting now wanting to jump in at maybe $300-$350 If this gets funded, I have ZERO doubt the Ultimates in this set will individually sell for 150+ a year (or sooner) from now. Doink would probably be 200+ if he ends up getting unlocked. Collectors are funny that way. They won’t pay retail for a figure they’re on the fence about… but tell them it isn’t available anymore and they break the bank for it. On a project like this… exclusive Ultimates behind a timed paywall? If people don’t get sucked in by the FOMO, they’ll drown in the ocean of remorse and pay five times over for that life jacket. That  ing clown will fund the buy in price on this whole set a year from now. And Nash’s first Ultimate? Gosh. Look what his first elites did when they went off the market. Sheeeeeit. I love you. |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Aug 11, 2021 15:09:40 GMT -5
Mattel can't force the hand of their customers (the retailers/wholesalers/etc.) and make them buy the product. just making a warehouse in eu like a classic company of his size. The retailers still need to buy the product. And Mattel already has a global presence. They have locations in France, Germany, Greece, Italy, the Netherlands, Poland, South Africa, Spain, Turkey, and the UK. |
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Post by plastictaxicab on Aug 11, 2021 15:12:01 GMT -5
Imho Mattel's fault is not for the customs but for the entire organization about wwe toys line. They have a lot of toys line and they have been focusing worldwide, making up wholesales in Europe and avoiding to the customers extra costs like international shipping and customs. They just bring basic and elite series in uk and really few figures in eu thanks to amazon. In 2021 for a big company this model is unacceptable, if you wanna buy a legends figure you have to pay from 60 to 80 euros like ddp (what a shame!). So pls dont cry about this failing crowfunding project, they didnt give us the possibily to pay the right price cause 300 euros for a ring and 2 ue is a crazy price.You're forgetting arguably the biggest piece of this project, which is the LED entrance stage. So no, not just "2 UE and a ring". |
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Post by Bafio on Aug 11, 2021 15:14:37 GMT -5
Imho Mattel's fault is not for the customs but for the entire organization about wwe toys line. They have a lot of toys line and they have been focusing worldwide, making up wholesales in Europe and avoiding to the customers extra costs like international shipping and customs. They just bring basic and elite series in uk and really few figures in eu thanks to amazon. In 2021 for a big company this model is unacceptable, if you wanna buy a legends figure you have to pay from 60 to 80 euros like ddp (what a shame!). So pls dont cry about this failing crowfunding project, they didnt give us the possibily to pay the right price cause 300 euros for a ring and 2 ue is a crazy price.You're forgetting arguably the biggest piece of this project, which is the LED entrance stage. So no, not just "2 UE and a ring". so 300 euros for a ring, led entrance and 2 eu?
Just telling me why an american could pay all this 215-220 euros and european 300 euros?
Make a warehouse or a european store, like 99% companies of this industry.
That's why this project will fail.
Have you ever asked yourself why legends line is running good? Because scalpers buy and resell on ebay to us.
10 years ago was harder to sell overseas that's why legend first lines failed.
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Post by hbkfan77 on Aug 11, 2021 15:34:26 GMT -5
The only thing I’d say different is the price on this Ultimates are $30 in the states? And they go for like $100-$150 online depending on rarity, desirability etc. So like a 3x to 5x mark up. I can’t see people spending $750 to $1250 for this. So while there will likely be some sort of secondary market for this it won’t likely be on the same % increase on the dollar based on how much that would be. I could see down the line someone not collecting now wanting to jump in at maybe $300-$350 If this gets funded, I have ZERO doubt the Ultimates in this set will individually sell for 150+ a year (or sooner) from now. Doink would probably be 200+ if he ends up getting unlocked. Collectors are funny that way. They won’t pay retail for a figure they’re on the fence about… but tell them it isn’t available anymore and they break the bank for it. On a project like this… exclusive Ultimates behind a timed paywall? If people don’t get sucked in by the FOMO, they’ll drown in the ocean of remorse and pay five times over for that life jacket. That ing clown will fund the buy in price on this whole set a year from now. And Nash’s first Ultimate? Gosh. Look what his first elites did when they went off the market. Sheeeeeit. I love you.
Here's my thinking on the "re-sell" subject:
Anyone willing to pay *ANY* sort of inflated secondary market price for any portion of this product....Would be the type of person *well aware of the project* and ready to fork over the $250 to hop on while it's being crowd-funded.
Why would anyone pay $100-$250 for a Doink Ultimate on the secondary market, when the only people willing to pay that high of a price...WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN THE CROWD-FUND!? You'll be hard-pressed to find someone who didn't know about the Doink available with the crowd-fund, that is willing to pay a high markup on him.
Same goes for Diesel and Macho. If people buying these on eBay are CLEARLY avid collectors....then chances are, a massive % of them are in the crowd-fund. Why pay $100- $250 for an Ultimate in a year when you can get the whole ring package for virtually the same price?
The only people willing to pay any kind of marked-up price, are the ones simply unaware of the crowd-fund when it was live....and again, the type of person *unaware of the project* is very likely to be someone disinterested in inflated prices. So that mostly cancels itself out.
The re-sell idea is not a good one. These aren't going for a markup any time soon after release. Plan on waiting years if you have sights set on getting $400+ for this thing.
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I dont know good luck 
