hijito
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Post by hijito on Jul 24, 2021 10:44:01 GMT -5
im going to back it because i badly want the ring and stage. Deisel is take it or leave it, he looks identical to several elite diesels already, if it was wm12 diesel id be more excited. it only feels worth it with all the push goals but I'm worried it won't even get to the 5k goal. wish it was an rsc exclusive or something cuz the ring is perfect
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 10:53:20 GMT -5
Was anyone really asking for a new ring? Honestly. We all have 2-3 that we have no room to display as it is. I still think the entrance and the 2 figures at $120-130 would’ve been a better approach.
Honestly, I think just an Ultimate Edition multi-pack would’ve been a better move for their first attempt.
… but that might just be me not caring about another ring that’ll go into a bin. Haha
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Post by hijito on Jul 24, 2021 10:58:06 GMT -5
Was anyone really asking for a new ring? Honestly. We all have 2-3 that we have no room to display as it is. I still think the entrance and the 2 figures at $120-130 would’ve been a better approach. Honestly, I think just an Ultimate Edition multi-pack would’ve been a better move for their first attempt. … but that might just be me not caring about another ring that’ll go into a bin. Haha i was personally, i haven't been happy with the rings i have, and for years wanted to see one built like real rings with wooden boards. this is like my prayers been answered, and would sell my other rings if i got this. maybe that's just me tho!
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Post by The Coach on Jul 24, 2021 11:05:32 GMT -5
Was anyone really asking for a new ring? Honestly. We all have 2-3 that we have no room to display as it is. I still think the entrance and the 2 figures at $120-130 would’ve been a better approach. Honestly, I think just an Ultimate Edition multi-pack would’ve been a better move for their first attempt. … but that might just be me not caring about another ring that’ll go into a bin. Haha The ring is probably ruining this. The stage alone could’ve sold at a lower price point. The ring is something many of us have no room or use for due to the many scale rings that have already been made over the year.
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Post by tjn223 on Jul 24, 2021 11:08:24 GMT -5
I really like the set overall and really hope it meets its goals. The molded boards under the ring mat are a very nice touch compared to other rings but were those boards ever exposed during the New Gen Era? I understand from a ring accuracy perspective the boards make it more realistic but looking at the boards I get NXT vibes from it. If this gets backed, somewhere down the line I'd like to see an NXT Stage and Ring w/ the molded boards, and Ultimate Edition Gargano and Ciampa to recreate those moments.
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Post by crush on Jul 24, 2021 11:16:23 GMT -5
First and foremost, I’m not sure if I’m backing this thing. Financially, my wife and I are finally going on our thrice COVID-delayed honeymoon at the end of the month, then moving into a new place, so money is a bit tight. Beyond that, I’ve never been one to display a ring and honestly even with the new place I don’t know if I’ll the space to dedicate to something that large. That being said, there’s one thing about the discourse here I’m not getting:
So I’m probably going to get lambasted here as a Mattel schill, (which is ironic, since as I said I haven’t backed yet and am not sure if I will be able to) but I feel like the price is pretty fair for what’s being offered when looking at retail prices.
Comparable real scale rings go for $100, so I’m using that as a starting point. Considering this ring has more detail with the structure/boards/etc. I would think it would retail by itself for at least $120.
Regular Ultimates retail for $30.
Then the biggie. I’m not sure where people are pulling some prices from in their heads, but a nearly foot tall (judging by photos with Diesel in them) full LED in-scale stage would be retailing for at least $75, honestly maybe closer to $100.
That comes out to between $225 and $250 depending on whether ones goes with the higher or lower end. If it hits the Doink tier, it’s even arguably a value IF one is interested in everything.
All that being said, I do think Mattel made a mistake here: $250 is a crazy large amount, even if it is “fair” for what’s being offered.
Judging by reactions both here and other places, I think they would have been better off doing the LED stage and Diesel with no ring for $150 (with the Doink tier and then the ring skirt tier replaced with something like a commentary table maybe, or guardrails). Speaking for myself, I would have been able to justify backing that to myself much more easily.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Jul 24, 2021 11:19:04 GMT -5
I was on board with this at first...but the more I think about it, the less I think I want it. The entrance stage looks great, I like Diesel (still not a fan of the ultimate bodies, but this one is passable for me).
Not sure about the ring tho, looks good, but not sure I want/need a ring, especially when it’s covered in WWE logos instead of WWF (I know I know)
While Doink looks great, I don’t see it as a very enticing stretch goal. While I feel Mattel knocked that particular fig outta the park, was anyone really clamoring for another Doink? There’s tons of guys we’ve been asking for, for years. Tons of attires, for guys we already have.
Legit I was all in for 1 and maybe a 2nd, but after being underwhelmed with SDCC, I just can’t get hyped for this.
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Jul 24, 2021 11:21:47 GMT -5
I was on board with this at first...but the more I think about it, the less I think I want it. The entrance stage looks great, I like Diesel (still not a fan of the ultimate bodies, but this one is passable for me). Not sure about the ring tho, looks good, but not sure I want/need a ring, especially when it’s covered in WWE logos instead of WWF (I know I know) While Doink looks great, I don’t see it as a very enticing stretch goal. While I feel Mattel knocked that particular fig outta the park, was anyone really clamoring for another Doink? There’s tons of guys we’ve been asking for, for years. Tons of attires, for guys we already have. Legit I was all in for 1 and maybe a 2nd, but after being underwhelmed with SDCC, I just can’t get hyped for this. I would like to have it, but I can’t and won’t spend $250 on it. Especially what if it only hits 5k and doesn’t hit the next marker? Then it’s $250 for a figure, ring, and entrance thing that’s worth more like $150.
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Post by controlchaos on Jul 24, 2021 11:24:28 GMT -5
If anyone is buying it just for the ring and has no interest in keeping the Diesel figure , I’d be willing to buy it.(If the ring even gets enough backers)
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Post by WFigureManiac on Jul 24, 2021 11:40:46 GMT -5
I backed it yesterday , but seeing 24 hours later only 755 backers makes me nervous .
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Post by Jeremiah on Jul 24, 2021 11:43:42 GMT -5
I think some 1st in line guys ever might have made it work. But just 2 ultimates in a already small produced line anyway yeah its going to be a hard sell.
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Post by figdrip on Jul 24, 2021 11:45:45 GMT -5
Anyone else think it’s crazy that it needs $1,250,000 in preorders to go into production?
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Post by Old Zeke on Jul 24, 2021 11:50:17 GMT -5
Anyone else think it’s crazy that it needs $1,250,000 in preorders to go into production? I reckon that must be about right - I went to a (virtual) toy workshop for work a few months back, and one of the designers there was explaining how creating new molds, parts, tooling etc. can cost up to $1,000,000. When you look at this arena, there's a LOT of new tooling just on the ring itself.
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Post by walkingturtles on Jul 24, 2021 11:54:47 GMT -5
I backed it yesterday , but seeing 24 hours later only 755 backers makes me nervous . I do not think it’s going to make it. And I’m speaking as someone who is not backing it because it’s not something I want. There have been 3/4 Diesel elites, this might be the blandest one of them even if it’s an Ultimate. The Doink has two although this will have the best accessories. The stage is a great concept, and I would love a Nitro version of one with LED and music. That should be something they look into doing. The ring is killing it. I have two rings, one AEW basic and the AEW full scale. The Basic sits on a shelf with figures in it, it’s just the right size to display and is an awesome ring. The full scale sits semi assembled in its box because it’s huge and only comes out to play with my kids. Also why put wood slats underneath? Like someone said that’s like putting a detailed brain in the head of an elite, really no point. Wasted budget on that item. This will be lucky to get to 5000, I can almost assure you that it won’t hit the first tier much less the second one.
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Post by jokerjohn on Jul 24, 2021 12:12:22 GMT -5
Don't know if anyone else has posted this but I think this plan would have been a slam dunk First tier:Ring, stage, UE Shawn Michaels with a ladder Second tier:UE Diesel Third tier:UE Razor Ramon This would allow you to create the Mania 10 ladder match and would get people to get to all tiers to get both participants. What are your thoughts.
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Post by Artie Kendall on Jul 24, 2021 12:20:06 GMT -5
I have to echo what others have said. I already have the Authentic Scale Ring that has the blue cage that I'm currently still trying to figure out how/where to display now that I've finally moved in to a permanent house. I really want the entrance stage, but a custom one can be had for like $50. Sure it doesn't light up and isn't the best scale but it's good enough. Had Mattel just done the entrance and the Diesel for even as high as $150, I would have jumped on right away. At this point the only way I'll get this is if I can sale my ASR to get a down payment to back this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 12:22:51 GMT -5
Idk how many times you can scream "This is not like any of the other Mattel rings" . Seems to be a constant confusion regarding that very fact.
Now as for me, I missed out on the previous Authentic Scale rings so I'm very excited to get this one and I'm sure I'm not alone.
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Post by banditman on Jul 24, 2021 12:24:12 GMT -5
I really want to back this, because that Doink is THE Doink that was on my mind when the first Elite Doink came out.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 24, 2021 12:47:45 GMT -5
I hope they get their goal. I have 4 rings - too many Diesel's and Kevin Nash's for me to go $250.00 - Sorry.
HOWEVER
Give me the light up entrance and a battle Royale of First in the line Legends on tiers and I am in for more $$$$$. $500 or more. This gives the passionate collector who loves Legends not to have to worry about Retailers like in the scenario with Todd McFarlane he can show proof of concept! Or Scalpers.
Ring Entrance with lights. Ivan Koloff, Bruiser Brody, Abdullah The Butcher, Stan Hansen, Tony Atlas, Ivan Putski, Ken Patera, Mr. Fugi, Killer Khan, Pedro Morales, Antonio Inoki, Mil Mascaras,
At 7,000
Dick Murdoch, Kevin Sullivan, David Von Erich, Dory Funk Jr. Jerry Brisco,
at 8,000
Young Ric Flair, Young Hulk Hogan, Young Andre The Giant, King Kong Bundy.
at 9,000
Gorgeous George
at 10,000
Jeff Jarrett
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Post by plastictaxicab on Jul 24, 2021 12:52:39 GMT -5
Almost 24 hours later, and less than 750 backers as of right now. Not good. It's up for 30 days and at 15% already in less than 24 hours. I might be in the minority, but I feel like that's a good thing. We know this is a niche product, and not a scalper's target, so did we expect it to reach the goal in a few days? Also, a lot of members on here have already stated they will wait until the end nears to purchase since the full amount of money is withdrawn up front.
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