newworldoz
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Post by newworldoz on Aug 12, 2021 11:18:51 GMT -5
Announcing the stretch goals before they hit their initial target was also a mistake. This thing becomes devalued in a lot of people’s mind if they’re not getting Doink. Wouldn’t have been an issue had it never been mentioned until 5K was hit. Wait until you reach that number and it becomes extra incentive to get more backers instead of having people wanting everything or nothing. I'm only really familiar with crowd funding in the form of Kickstarters where announcing all of your stretch goals as part of the initial pitch is pretty traditional.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Aug 12, 2021 11:19:24 GMT -5
The amount of copeium in the idea that they are lying when they say if this fails we won't be getting anything is unreal. If they say that and then do something else they look like liars, not everything is a 4D chess marketing strat. This will be the *second* time Mattel has tried an online offering targeted at adult wrestling figure collectors and the last time it failed they killed the line for years and refused to ever go out of their way to sign people to figure deals again. Why on god's green earth would you think for a second that if this fails they would try a third time and that their reaction to failing again would be any less drastic than the last time.
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walkingturtles
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Post by walkingturtles on Aug 12, 2021 11:23:01 GMT -5
The amount of copeium in the idea that they are lying when they say if this fails we won't be getting anything is unreal. If they say that and then do something else they look like liars, not everything is a 4D chess marketing strat. This will be the *second* time Mattel has tried an online offering targeted at adult collectors and the last time it failed they killed the line for years and refused to ever go out of their way to sign people to figure deals. Why on god's green earth would you think for a second that if this fails they would try a third time and that their reaction to failing again would be any less drastic than the last time. Not sure about the first time, but this is dying because of the choices being offered. I don’t want Diesel or Doink, or the ring. The entrance set and Macho and the announce table are intriguing but not $250.00. They shot to high with a niche item. Maybe a fan vote before hand. Idk, I would have backed a WCW Nitro set with Wolfpack or regular Luger and say nWo Macho Man and something like that. But that may also be niche. So who knows.
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Aug 12, 2021 11:27:18 GMT -5
The amount of copeium in the idea that they are lying when they say if this fails we won't be getting anything is unreal. If they say that and then do something else they look like liars, not everything is a 4D chess marketing strat. This will be the *second* time Mattel has tried an online offering targeted at adult collectors and the last time it failed they killed the line for years and refused to ever go out of their way to sign people to figure deals. Why on god's green earth would you think for a second that if this fails they would try a third time and that their reaction to failing again would be any less drastic than the last time. Not sure about the first time, but this is dying because of the choices being offered. I don’t want Diesel or Doink, or the ring. The entrance set and Macho and the announce table are intriguing but not $250.00. They shot to high with a niche item. Maybe a fan vote before hand. Idk, I would have backed a WCW Nitro set with Wolfpack or regular Luger and say nWo Macho Man and something like that. But that may also be niche. So who knows. They’ve made it pretty clear that anything less would have just been made for retail. People criticised Diesel for being in a plain attire so using Luger in black pants would have had the exact same criticisms anyway. What they’re offering here is fine. They made some big mistakes (not capitalising on initial hype by putting it up for order when it was announced, immediate payments and not having Macho from the start) but the contents of the package on sale right now are not an issue.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Aug 12, 2021 11:29:35 GMT -5
What’s with the people coming in here several weeks after this has started to say the same things they have said already about why they aren’t backing it? We get it you aren’t interested….stop trying to sabotage and sway others not to participate. Let it go! Some of you people treat Mattel like they are your ex’s that did you dirty or something.
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RedDevil
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Post by RedDevil on Aug 12, 2021 11:30:01 GMT -5
Decent chance this passes 3,000 in the next hour or so it seems.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Aug 12, 2021 11:31:42 GMT -5
The amount of copeium in the idea that they are lying when they say if this fails we won't be getting anything is unreal. If they say that and then do something else they look like liars, not everything is a 4D chess marketing strat. This will be the *second* time Mattel has tried an online offering targeted at adult collectors and the last time it failed they killed the line for years and refused to ever go out of their way to sign people to figure deals. Why on god's green earth would you think for a second that if this fails they would try a third time and that their reaction to failing again would be any less drastic than the last time. Not sure about the first time, but this is dying because of the choices being offered. I don’t want Diesel or Doink, or the ring. The entrance set and Macho and the announce table are intriguing but not $250.00. They shot to high with a niche item. Maybe a fan vote before hand. Idk, I would have backed a WCW Nitro set with Wolfpack or regular Luger and say nWo Macho Man and something like that. But that may also be niche. So who knows. Again. None of that has any relevance to the idea that they will try again after failing a second time. Why this failed won't matter to the decision makers at Mattel and we've seen that first hand with the Matty Collector Legends line. If this fails it comes to a point where collectors have to be honest with themselves and come to terms that the majority of us aren't willing to support high end collectables no matter the value or offering.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Aug 12, 2021 11:35:23 GMT -5
Not sure about the first time, but this is dying because of the choices being offered. I don’t want Diesel or Doink, or the ring. The entrance set and Macho and the announce table are intriguing but not $250.00. They shot to high with a niche item. Maybe a fan vote before hand. Idk, I would have backed a WCW Nitro set with Wolfpack or regular Luger and say nWo Macho Man and something like that. But that may also be niche. So who knows. They’ve made it pretty clear that anything less would have just been made for retail. People criticised Diesel for being in a plain attire so using Luger in black pants would have had the exact same criticisms anyway. What they’re offering here is fine. They made some big mistakes (not capitalising on initial hype by putting it up for order when it was announced, immediate payments and not having Macho from the start) but the contents of the package on sale right now are not an issue. Not to mention they've already made 2 NWO Machos so including that would lead to some groaning I'm sure. Also since people wanna talk about what they would have supported, if it were a Nitro or Attitude Era ring I would have had zero interest in it.
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quackbauer
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Post by quackbauer on Aug 12, 2021 11:55:11 GMT -5
I’ve just signed up to say I have backed this! Looks a great set, hopefully it reaches the target.
I only just got back into collecting wresting figures, usually I collect hot toys but with Punk returning (hopefully) and Bray Wyatt leaving WWE I decided to get back in. Ordered a few figures last week, got more to come soon.
I only stumbled across this from this thread, thankfully got in before the Macho deadline.
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walkingturtles
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Post by walkingturtles on Aug 12, 2021 12:02:51 GMT -5
Not sure about the first time, but this is dying because of the choices being offered. I don’t want Diesel or Doink, or the ring. The entrance set and Macho and the announce table are intriguing but not $250.00. They shot to high with a niche item. Maybe a fan vote before hand. Idk, I would have backed a WCW Nitro set with Wolfpack or regular Luger and say nWo Macho Man and something like that. But that may also be niche. So who knows. They’ve made it pretty clear that anything less would have just been made for retail. People criticised Diesel for being in a plain attire so using Luger in black pants would have had the exact same criticisms anyway. What they’re offering here is fine. They made some big mistakes (not capitalising on initial hype by putting it up for order when it was announced, immediate payments and not having Macho from the start) but the contents of the package on sale right now are not an issue. It appears they are though.
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Greensborohill
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Post by Greensborohill on Aug 12, 2021 12:14:15 GMT -5
About to hit 3,000. A week ago I didn't think this would get funded. Now I'd give it a coin flips chance.
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fuennza
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Post by fuennza on Aug 12, 2021 12:17:41 GMT -5
3000
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 12:17:42 GMT -5
60%!!!!!
I love you.
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ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝
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ask me about how Verizon owes me over $4,000
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Aug 12, 2021 12:17:45 GMT -5
3,000 backers!!
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Aug 12, 2021 12:17:47 GMT -5
We’re at 3k now
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 12, 2021 12:19:36 GMT -5
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Old Zeke
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Post by Old Zeke on Aug 12, 2021 12:20:27 GMT -5
Closer to being funded than not now! Let's get it!
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Bramahummel
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Post by Bramahummel on Aug 12, 2021 12:22:47 GMT -5
3004 😎
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Post by teammadness on Aug 12, 2021 12:23:21 GMT -5
It has gained about 100 backers in the last 2.5 hours….really starting to pick up steam! I think it gets to 3200 by midnight tonight and could see a little over 4K by the time the macho man promo expires tomorrow! I don’t think Doink is realistic unless a company buys up the extra…..However I do think we are going to hit 5k
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WWE453456
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Post by WWE453456 on Aug 12, 2021 12:23:31 GMT -5
I’ve just signed up to say I have backed this! Looks a great set, hopefully it reaches the target. I only just got back into collecting wresting figures, usually I collect hot toys but with Punk returning (hopefully) and Bray Wyatt leaving WWE I decided to get back in. Ordered a few figures last week, got more to come soon. I only stumbled across this from this thread, thankfully got in before the Macho deadline. I actually too. I collect Hot Toys, mostly Star Wars, but when the Ultimate Edition series was announced back then, I decided to collect this series from the beginning. It is worth it. That's why I also support this crowdfunding project.
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