The Coach
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Post by The Coach on Jul 24, 2021 18:43:59 GMT -5
Bill’s already stated on some comments where people have asked for other sets to receive the crowd funding sets that if this one doesn’t reach its goal then there wouldn’t be others. Then they should’ve been smarter about what they’re doing. They took everyone’s money up front and also offered a premium version of something they’ve created multiple times (the ring) instead of just offering the premium stage on its own which would’ve sold like hot cakes. |
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mad2009
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Post by mad2009 on Jul 24, 2021 18:44:43 GMT -5
I wonder if youtubers & social media people will get this for free?
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Billy Snorticus
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Post by Billy Snorticus on Jul 24, 2021 18:47:23 GMT -5
personally, i think the ring is the coolest part of this aside from doink. it's super detailed and the wooden planks + turnbuckles + the 4 separate ring skirts (not the annoying one that's all one piece) are super sick
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Post by Warriah' on Jul 24, 2021 18:47:35 GMT -5
Bill’s already stated on some comments where people have asked for other sets to receive the crowd funding sets that if this one doesn’t reach its goal then there wouldn’t be others. Anyone ask bill on there why they made the decision to charge people right away rather than at the end like every other crowd funded project known to man? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 18:47:36 GMT -5
Bill’s already stated on some comments where people have asked for other sets to receive the crowd funding sets that if this one doesn’t reach its goal then there wouldn’t be others. Then they should’ve been smarter about what they’re doing. They took everyone’s money up front and also offered a premium version of something they’ve created multiple times (the ring) instead of just offering the premium stage on its own which would’ve sold like hot cakes. That stage alone would have done sold over 5,000 for around $60. They could have sold the ring separate with the diesel and ring skirts for 2500 backers for $150ish. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 18:49:41 GMT -5
Bill’s already stated on some comments where people have asked for other sets to receive the crowd funding sets that if this one doesn’t reach its goal then there wouldn’t be others. Anyone ask bill on there why they made the decision to charge people right away rather than at the end like every other crowd funded project known to man? I’m assuming so people wouldn’t cancel their orders? But I don’t see why it matters if they charge now or next month, if you’re funding the project you’re losing $250. If you don’t wanna be charged the $250 right away, then wait till the last day then pay the $250. |
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Post by boz1515 on Jul 24, 2021 18:50:03 GMT -5
Then they should’ve been smarter about what they’re doing. They took everyone’s money up front and also offered a premium version of something they’ve created multiple times (the ring) instead of just offering the premium stage on its own which would’ve sold like hot cakes. That stage alone would have done sold over 5,000 for around $60. They could have sold the ring separate with the diesel and ring skirts for 2500 backers for $150ish. Yeah, I don't mean to be disrespectful to them, but I'm starting to think they don't know their consumers as well as they think they do. |
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Post by hijito on Jul 24, 2021 18:51:15 GMT -5
Bill’s already stated on some comments where people have asked for other sets to receive the crowd funding sets that if this one doesn’t reach its goal then there wouldn’t be others. this is another reason i backed it and want to see it succeed, i want them to make others like WCW with Nitro stage or NXT etc, and if this tanks, none of that will happen. This looks like the most accurate figure ring ever produced. |
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Post by taroostyles on Jul 24, 2021 18:54:48 GMT -5
Looking at less than 800 backers still makes me think even the 5k will be tough to hit. Let alone the 7k for Doink and the 8k for the ring skirts.
Have to agree that the stage should have been a standalone funded item for $50-75 at the most. $250 is alot to dish out especially if you already have a ring and any of the other Diesel elites. Doink and the stage together maybe they could've squeezed $125 which is still overpriced.
Kind of a shame as this could've been the gateway for many cool projects.
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Post by Warriah' on Jul 24, 2021 18:55:23 GMT -5
Anyone ask bill on there why they made the decision to charge people right away rather than at the end like every other crowd funded project known to man? I’m assuming so people wouldn’t cancel their orders? But I don’t see why it matters if they charge now or next month, if you’re funding the project you’re losing $250. If you don’t wanna be charged the $250 right away, then wait till the last day then pay the $250. There’s 0 incentive to back until the last minute for most people. Why spend 250 now when I can spend it next month? Especially after most collectors have dropped a fair amount on other SDCC related products. They also don’t need t take a single penny from you in the event that the campaign isn’t successful. People don’t want t be charged and refunded, they’d rather just be charged in the event the campaign proceeds. Like every other crowdfunding company does things. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 19:08:25 GMT -5
I’m assuming so people wouldn’t cancel their orders? But I don’t see why it matters if they charge now or next month, if you’re funding the project you’re losing $250. If you don’t wanna be charged the $250 right away, then wait till the last day then pay the $250. There’s 0 incentive to back until the last minute for most people. Why spend 250 now when I can spend it next month? Especially after most collectors have dropped a fair amount on other SDCC related products. They also don’t need t take a single penny from you in the event that the campaign isn’t successful. People don’t want t be charged and refunded, they’d rather just be charged in the event the campaign proceeds. Like every other crowdfunding company does things. People have asked for an entrance stage since they seen the one Mattel made a few years ago for that convention. I’m pretty sure Bill had mentioned then that they didn’t think if they made one to sale it would be profitable or stores wouldn’t have shelf space for something that size. I think this was just over priced just to say I told you so it would never happen kinda thing. You price that stage at $80 for 5,000 backers, I guarantee it sales within 1-2 weeks. |
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Post by hijito on Jul 24, 2021 19:11:23 GMT -5
i agree that a FTITL figure could have helped sell this, like how the Main Event Raw light up ring had the first ever elite Goldberg. The slight difference in the Ultimate articulation isnt that big of a draw for me, as i already have a diesel in all black gear elite that looks just like this. I don't like buying "doubles", and would be more excited to buy a ring with an ultimate edition of a figure that doesn't exist yet. or a different attire. The ring, the stage, and the ringskirts are my biggest wants in this.
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Post by bharrisfan on Jul 24, 2021 19:14:25 GMT -5
every ring mattel has released has been botched in some way. elite ring is ridiculously oversized and swallows the figures up. the basic rings are worthless. the main event ring was botched with the low rope height and overall was too gimmicky finally looks like they are giving us a definitive ring, which we've never had. Doesn’t change the fact that people only have so much room and need for rings. Maybe you don’t have room or a need but whether or not people do remains to be seen. And the same can be said about the barge unicron galactus thunder tank etc. And all funded. Now how Mattel has set this sale up is suspect but there is a definite need for the ring. |
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Post by Artie Kendall on Jul 24, 2021 19:15:08 GMT -5
Have they said anything about the dimensions of the ring?
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Post by Showstopper on Jul 24, 2021 19:19:20 GMT -5
A WM 10 Razor would've been a much better choice than a Diesel that looks like every other Diesel they've ever made. Can't believe they've never made an Elite WM 10 Razor yet. That would've been perfect for this set.
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Post by crush on Jul 24, 2021 19:21:13 GMT -5
Looking at less than 800 backers still makes me think even the 5k will be tough to hit. Let alone the 7k for Doink and the 8k for the ring skirts. Have to agree that the stage should have been a standalone funded item for $50-75 at the most. $250 is alot to dish out especially if you already have a ring and any of the other Diesel elites. Doink and the stage together maybe they could've squeezed $125 which is still overpriced. Kind of a shame as this could've been the gateway for many cool projects. No way a foot tall, scaled stage loaded with LED lights would retail by itself for under $100. It should have been the stage and Diesel for $150 IMO. |
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Post by RedDevil on Jul 24, 2021 19:34:19 GMT -5
I will back this eventually as I'm fortunate enough to be able to do so without much issue, so you guys can add one to the current number  Maybe two, I haven't decided. But given Mattel's charging upfront decision, I won't jump in until the middle of next month - there's no reason I can see for me to commit now when I can pass it onto the following month's credit card statement. It'll be interesting to follow how the final stretch develops as I'm sure plenty have come to the same conclusion as I have. |
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jul 24, 2021 19:47:25 GMT -5
I’d like the entrance stage only.
I don’t need a ring
I don’t need a diesel
I don’t need a doink
I don’t need ring skirts
…I’m not paying 250 Sorry
Somebody want to sell me the light up entrance thing only then pm me when it’s funded
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Post by booberrysm on Jul 24, 2021 20:11:03 GMT -5
Who really thinks they won’t release these separately? The tooling and design is done and that’s the most expensive part. The ring will be $100ish on RSC eventually, Diesel will be $30 whenever he’s released, and that means they value the (inaccurate) entrance at $120 - that’s f’n ridiculous!!! Those are the reasons why I’m not backing this extremely poor offering for Mattel’s first venture into crowdfunding for WWE.
Also, has anyone been able to find out the actual dimensions of the ring? With using Diesel for scale in the photos, it still looks off.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 24, 2021 20:47:39 GMT -5
“Why do we need another Diesel or another Doink when they already have multiple elites?!”
-Literally the same people complaining they can’t get the Ultimates of Hogan and Jeff.
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