The Coach
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Post by The Coach on Jul 27, 2021 19:43:03 GMT -5
I don’t like the scare tactic of them going “there’s a lot of cool stuff in the pipeline but you’ll never see em if you don’t fund this.” I don’t want this and I don’t wanna pay $250 just to maybe have the opportunity to get something more to my liking next time. I bought 2. I love everything about it. The ring the entrance the figures the skirts. But I agree I don’t like this paternal punitive tone MDT is prone to. That take their ball and go home mentality. I hate their responses sometimes. Collectors got blamed when the original Legends line failed, but that was their fault for producing awful attires that were deep cuts and not iconic and desirable enough. When people get upset about the Slaughter drop, they respond with “that’s part of the game.” When this fails, they’ll say “the interest and support wasn’t there.” They picked the least popular time period in wrestling history to make a high end, high price product of? They’re putting all their faith on the idea of crowdfunding behind…. Diesel? The New Generation? They responded at one point that New Generation era figures sell extremely well and that this was the most asked for high end product by collectors. Who asked for this, because I haven’t seen it nearly as much as they’re claiming? This has Bill’s hands all over it. He produces things he wants all the time instead of listening to collectors or providing accurate looks. He just throws stuff together and releases looks and characters he wants. Nakamura as an Ultimate, anyone? |
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Post by jokerjohn on Jul 27, 2021 19:55:18 GMT -5
I bought 2. I love everything about it. The ring the entrance the figures the skirts. But I agree I don’t like this paternal punitive tone MDT is prone to. That take their ball and go home mentality. I hate their responses sometimes. Collectors got blamed when the original Legends line failed, but that was their fault for producing awful attires that were deep cuts and not iconic and desirable enough. When people get upset about the Slaughter drop, they respond with “that’s part of the game.” When this fails, they’ll say “the interest and support wasn’t there.” They picked the least popular time period in wrestling history to make a high end, high price product of? They’re putting all their faith on the idea of crowdfunding behind…. Diesel? The New Generation? They responded at one point that New Generation era figures sell extremely well and that this was the most asked for high end product by collectors. Who asked for this, because I haven’t seen it nearly as much as they’re claiming? This has Bill’s hands all over it. He produces things he wants all the time instead of listening to collectors or providing accurate looks. He just throws stuff together and releases looks and characters he wants. Nakamura as an Ultimate, anyone? From what Steve said the entrance was highly requested because it covers the end of the old gen as well as new Gen, also they started with something with a lower price point. I guess the full scale stages like the Smackdown fist would be considerably higher priced. |
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Post by jacobl18 on Jul 27, 2021 20:13:50 GMT -5
Could RSC order a bunch of these and then split the items up and sell them individually on their website? If this gets made the price will double or triple in value. I’ve backed this but maybe it will really help more ppl jump on board if RSC or other wrestling stores buy some of these and get that meter moving closer to 5k.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 27, 2021 20:41:36 GMT -5
Could RSC order a bunch of these and then split the items up and sell them individually on their website? If this gets made the price will double or triple in value. I’ve backed this but maybe it will really help more ppl jump on board if RSC or other wrestling stores buy some of these and get that meter moving closer to 5k. I’m sure stuff like this WILL happen. Mattel has plenty of partners, I would t be surprised if they get some partners to buy a bunch |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 27, 2021 20:50:41 GMT -5
Nakamura as an Ultimate, anyone? That’s a pretty terrible example. At the time those lineups were made, Nakamura had just won the Royal Rumble and was heading for a world title match at WrestleMania. Nobody knew that by the time the figure came out, the character would be a midcard nothing. |
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jul 27, 2021 20:54:39 GMT -5
are there any blue cages that'll fit this ring? Nope. It’s 21.4 x 21.4 which is a brand new scale. I didn't know this was scaled down. That is excellent news! |
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Post by The Coach on Jul 27, 2021 21:39:45 GMT -5
Nope. It’s 21.4 x 21.4 which is a brand new scale. I didn't know this was scaled down. That is excellent news! It’s scaled down slightly. Other scale rings have been 22 x 22. |
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Post by mrh on Jul 28, 2021 1:08:24 GMT -5
I hate their responses sometimes. Collectors got blamed when the original Legends line failed, but that was their fault for producing awful attires that were deep cuts and not iconic and desirable enough. When people get upset about the Slaughter drop, they respond with “that’s part of the game.” When this fails, they’ll say “the interest and support wasn’t there.” They picked the least popular time period in wrestling history to make a high end, high price product of? They’re putting all their faith on the idea of crowdfunding behind…. Diesel? The New Generation? They responded at one point that New Generation era figures sell extremely well and that this was the most asked for high end product by collectors. Who asked for this, because I haven’t seen it nearly as much as they’re claiming? This has Bill’s hands all over it. He produces things he wants all the time instead of listening to collectors or providing accurate looks. He just throws stuff together and releases looks and characters he wants. Nakamura as an Ultimate, anyone? From what Steve said the entrance was highly requested because it covers the end of the old gen as well as new Gen, also they started with something with a lower price point. I guess the full scale stages like the Smackdown fist would be considerably higher priced.
The ENTRANCE was requested -- I guarantee if this were a bigger entrance and no ring, this would have been funded.
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Post by Old Zeke on Jul 28, 2021 1:28:14 GMT -5
Payday today, and I've backed it. Fully expecting it to be refunded at the end of the month though.  |
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Post by hijito on Jul 28, 2021 1:59:06 GMT -5
Was anyone else disappointed to learn the dimensions of the ring are 21.4 x 21.4? I don’t think it would’ve made a difference in terms of support for the project as a whole, but I was really hoping for something in the 18-20 range. The super large rings like WCT eat up so much space and never truly look authentic to the scale of the figures. yea same i was really hoping for 18 to 20, its always been a problem that the basic rings are too small and the scale rings are too big. i bought an RSR and even at 20" that thing is massive. i started trying to build my own figure ring testing different dimensions and found 18" to be the absolute sweet spot. plenty of room without being ridiculous. I've never bought a WCT ring because 22" just sounds colossal when the RSR was already too big. |
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Post by kgchampion on Jul 28, 2021 4:15:53 GMT -5
Was anyone else disappointed to learn the dimensions of the ring are 21.4 x 21.4? I don’t think it would’ve made a difference in terms of support for the project as a whole, but I was really hoping for something in the 18-20 range. The super large rings like WCT eat up so much space and never truly look authentic to the scale of the figures. yea same i was really hoping for 18 to 20, its always been a problem that the basic rings are too small and the scale rings are too big. i bought an RSR and even at 20" that thing is massive. i started trying to build my own figure ring testing different dimensions and found 18" to be the absolute sweet spot. plenty of room without being ridiculous. I've never bought a WCT ring because 22" just sounds colossal when the RSR was already too big. I humbly disagree. I think the RSR is a perfect size at 20”. I think the Main Event ring is also 20” and that would have been the perfect ring if the height was scaled properly. It was so close to being perfect. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 28, 2021 6:48:46 GMT -5
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Post by Billy Snorticus on Jul 28, 2021 7:51:08 GMT -5
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Jul 28, 2021 8:52:20 GMT -5
Just saw someone on Instagram post a screenshot of an email that said “your order was canceled because of unforeseen circumstances and your payment has been refunded.” The person didn’t understand why. Did anyone else get something similar? Was it the same as this? Yes! Thank you, I did not see the second part. |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 28, 2021 10:21:28 GMT -5
Is he trolling? I don’t know hidden meanings of emojis. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 28, 2021 10:26:33 GMT -5
Is he trolling? I don’t know hidden meanings of emojis. He’s trolling |
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Post by hijito on Jul 28, 2021 11:36:06 GMT -5
I didn't know this was scaled down. That is excellent news! It’s scaled down slightly. Other scale rings have been 22 x 22. Do you happen to know if it's 21.4" to the canvas or to the posts? I measured my old 20" jakks RSR and it was around 21.3 ish inches from edge to edge of the posts |
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Post by The Coach on Jul 28, 2021 11:50:38 GMT -5
It’s scaled down slightly. Other scale rings have been 22 x 22. Do you happen to know if it's 21.4" to the canvas or to the posts? I measured my old 20" jakks RSR and it was around 21.3 ish inches from edge to edge of the posts No clue if it’s corner to corner or post to post. |
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Jul 28, 2021 11:57:44 GMT -5
Lmao wrestling toy collectors are sabotaging this? Please tell me this is a parody |
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 28, 2021 12:05:13 GMT -5
Lmao wrestling toy collectors are sabotaging this? Please tell me this is a parody I wouldn’t say sabotage but like others have said, I think once the negativity gets rolling, and iv contributed to that, once it gets rolling I think it gains a stigma and becomes less sexy of a purchase. You gotta understand, we live in a time right now where they can pull this thing RIGHT NOW and cancel it and tomorrow 10,000 people will complain that they want it haha. If they can tap into that psychological trickery here, they’ll make the money. They just gotta turn it around. If they said we’re LIMITING this to 5,000 backers, now it’s a 5000 piece run so get in while you can…they might meet the goal tonight. It’s a tricky place the collecting scene is right now. |
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