kiphouse
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Post by kiphouse on Sept 3, 2022 17:34:36 GMT -5
Got my tracking
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PVA
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Post by PVA on Sept 3, 2022 18:09:00 GMT -5
They should ship out macho in the reverse order they sent the ring out.
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eatushsa2
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Post by eatushsa2 on Sept 3, 2022 18:24:12 GMT -5
I'm starting to believe the arena will never reach. I haven't even started worrying about Macho.
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Post by hbkfan77 on Sept 3, 2022 19:19:32 GMT -5
F I N A L L Y ! ! ! Got my tracking as well.
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Post by jacobl18 on Sept 3, 2022 19:35:40 GMT -5
You say “no”, but what’s the solution then? I get everybody’s frustration in seeing other people receive items before you, but this is exactly how every action figure Kickstarter/ crowdfund has gone since they started. In fact, this might be the only crowdfund I can think of with no significant delay at all. Mattel doesn’t have a problem with the shipping process, it’s the customers who do because they can’t fathom the logistics of it and think 8000 giant boxes can be shipped in one day. If people have a problem with how this crowd find has gone, I highly recommend never doing one again ever, because this went as smoothly as it could ever go. The no was an answer to your question. The reality is that there is no solution to the underwhelming short term resale market when Mattel is planning to announce the next set in the midst of those underwhelming returns. It was a significant tactical error by Mattel to not have funded the next set during Comic Con, given the lower resale prices and the ongoing shipping delays. It's really about the impact on how many future sets end up being backed by those resellers. Anything that makes it less likely that people will back in the future is bad for Mattel (and us) in terms of there being more crowdfunding projects. That's particularly problematic when the margin for hitting all the tiers is so thin. If even 500 fewer units are sold of the next one (assuming the same tier set up) then all the tiers won't unlock. It's a precarious state for the future of these. Mattel also dropped the ball by not taping the UE’s closed. Now every UE figure for sale on the secondary market will be listed as MOC. That’s gonna lower the value. |
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Post by CM Tusk on Sept 3, 2022 19:42:53 GMT -5
Don’t personally care about the resell value of the Ultimates but not having the tape will be kind of odd for my collection maybe. Won’t be able to tell til I have them in hand, but I guess I’ll just be throwing them in protectors anyways.
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Post by berealnicknaro on Sept 3, 2022 20:49:05 GMT -5
You say “no”, but what’s the solution then? I get everybody’s frustration in seeing other people receive items before you, but this is exactly how every action figure Kickstarter/ crowdfund has gone since they started. In fact, this might be the only crowdfund I can think of with no significant delay at all. Mattel doesn’t have a problem with the shipping process, it’s the customers who do because they can’t fathom the logistics of it and think 8000 giant boxes can be shipped in one day. If people have a problem with how this crowd find has gone, I highly recommend never doing one again ever, because this went as smoothly as it could ever go. The no was an answer to your question. The reality is that there is no solution to the underwhelming short term resale market when Mattel is planning to announce the next set in the midst of those underwhelming returns. It was a significant tactical error by Mattel to not have funded the next set during Comic Con, given the lower resale prices and the ongoing shipping delays. It's really about the impact on how many future sets end up being backed by those resellers. Anything that makes it less likely that people will back in the future is bad for Mattel (and us) in terms of there being more crowdfunding projects. That's particularly problematic when the margin for hitting all the tiers is so thin. If even 500 fewer units are sold of the next one (assuming the same tier set up) then all the tiers won't unlock. It's a precarious state for the future of these. To be honest dude, no one should care about appeasing resellers. Least of all Mattel. Their job is to provide the value to the consumer. The next (or any) crowdfund should be an idea that is popular enough to fund on its own by people who actually want it, not reliant on convincing people it’ll be worth something upon release. Or ever for that matter. Pictures of cardboard shipper boxes and completed listing on eBay aren’t selling the next crowdfund. You know what is? All those pictures of the set laid out with figures in the entrance and the ring. The testimonies of how happy people are to have it. The quality. That’s what’s really gonna sell people on the next thing. The reality of this set is that it almost didn’t get made. Macho got the set made and all the resellers you’re worried about got in purely for how rare they thought that figure would be. He probably will fetch a higher price than everything else in the set, but we’ll still have to see because it’s still 8k. If anything, resellers did it to themselves. They put this thing into “not rare enough” territory. Pretty much everyone who wanted this got it already, so there’s only going to be so many that will sell for what’s being asked right now. Maybe down the road it’ll go up again, but anyone wanting triple or more *right now* is probably going to be disappointed, and that has nothing to do with Mattel. |
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Post by hurtcawkins on Sept 3, 2022 21:30:11 GMT -5
Finally got my shipping notification email!
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Post by hbkfan77 on Sept 3, 2022 21:43:21 GMT -5
Finally got my shipping notification email! Must be the last batch because there's a lot of us getting them! |
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Post by aglassbottlecocacola on Sept 3, 2022 22:43:04 GMT -5
The no was an answer to your question. The reality is that there is no solution to the underwhelming short term resale market when Mattel is planning to announce the next set in the midst of those underwhelming returns. It was a significant tactical error by Mattel to not have funded the next set during Comic Con, given the lower resale prices and the ongoing shipping delays. It's really about the impact on how many future sets end up being backed by those resellers. Anything that makes it less likely that people will back in the future is bad for Mattel (and us) in terms of there being more crowdfunding projects. That's particularly problematic when the margin for hitting all the tiers is so thin. If even 500 fewer units are sold of the next one (assuming the same tier set up) then all the tiers won't unlock. It's a precarious state for the future of these. To be honest dude, no one should care about appeasing resellers. Least of all Mattel. Their job is to provide the value to the consumer. The next (or any) crowdfund should be an idea that is popular enough to fund on its own by people who actually want it, not reliant on convincing people it’ll be worth something upon release. Or ever for that matter. Pictures of cardboard shipper boxes and completed listing on eBay aren’t selling the next crowdfund. You know what is? All those pictures of the set laid out with figures in the entrance and the ring. The testimonies of how happy people are to have it. The quality. That’s what’s really gonna sell people on the next thing. The reality of this set is that it almost didn’t get made. Macho got the set made and all the resellers you’re worried about got in purely for how rare they thought that figure would be. He probably will fetch a higher price than everything else in the set, but we’ll still have to see because it’s still 8k. If anything, resellers did it to themselves. They put this thing into “not rare enough” territory. Pretty much everyone who wanted this got it already, so there’s only going to be so many that will sell for what’s being asked right now. Maybe down the road it’ll go up again, but anyone wanting triple or more *right now* is probably going to be disappointed, and that has nothing to do with Mattel. You're absolutely right, the reality of this set is that it almost didn't get made (to the 8000 all tiers level). This set wasn't an idea that was popular enough to fund on its own by people who actually want it. It was reliant on people being convinced it was worth something upon release by the influencer and reseller crowd promoting the "buy multiples so it gets made because they will be worth a lot!" notion. That has everything to do with Mattel not being able to provide the necessary value to the customer (and/or not understanding how small/large their customer base is on an item such as this) until the desperation move of including Macho Man. Initially, Mattel was trying to sell Diesel, the entrance, and the ring for $250. On the first day it was around 15% backed. It took two more figures and extra ring skirts to just barely make the top tier goal - at least an additional $65-$70 of "retail" value to make this set worth $250 to the overwhelming majority of backers. It's clear that a large percentage of the buyers of the first set were resellers. The pictures that you mentioned will absolutely sell "a" set to those who want it, but it's the current completed listings on eBay that contribute to the disappointment you mention that will keep people from buying a second, third, tenth, or thirtieth and hurt the likelihood of the next set being made. |
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Post by berealnicknaro on Sept 3, 2022 23:40:02 GMT -5
To be honest dude, no one should care about appeasing resellers. Least of all Mattel. Their job is to provide the value to the consumer. The next (or any) crowdfund should be an idea that is popular enough to fund on its own by people who actually want it, not reliant on convincing people it’ll be worth something upon release. Or ever for that matter. Pictures of cardboard shipper boxes and completed listing on eBay aren’t selling the next crowdfund. You know what is? All those pictures of the set laid out with figures in the entrance and the ring. The testimonies of how happy people are to have it. The quality. That’s what’s really gonna sell people on the next thing. The reality of this set is that it almost didn’t get made. Macho got the set made and all the resellers you’re worried about got in purely for how rare they thought that figure would be. He probably will fetch a higher price than everything else in the set, but we’ll still have to see because it’s still 8k. If anything, resellers did it to themselves. They put this thing into “not rare enough” territory. Pretty much everyone who wanted this got it already, so there’s only going to be so many that will sell for what’s being asked right now. Maybe down the road it’ll go up again, but anyone wanting triple or more *right now* is probably going to be disappointed, and that has nothing to do with Mattel. You're absolutely right, the reality of this set is that it almost didn't get made (to the 8000 all tiers level). This set wasn't an idea that was popular enough to fund on its own by people who actually want it. It was reliant on people being convinced it was worth something upon release by the influencer and reseller crowd promoting the "buy multiples so it gets made because they will be worth a lot!" notion. That has everything to do with Mattel not being able to provide the necessary value to the customer (and/or not understanding how small/large their customer base is on an item such as this) until the desperation move of including Macho Man. Initially, Mattel was trying to sell Diesel, the entrance, and the ring for $250. On the first day it was around 15% backed. It took two more figures and extra ring skirts to just barely make the top tier goal - at least an additional $65-$70 of "retail" value to make this set worth $250 to the overwhelming majority of backers. It's clear that a large percentage of the buyers of the first set were resellers. The pictures that you mentioned will absolutely sell "a" set to those who want it, but it's the current completed listings on eBay that contribute to the disappointment you mention that will keep people from buying a second, third, tenth, or thirtieth and hurt the likelihood of the next set being made. Not really. The only way the next set fails is if it’s not cool enough to buy. That’s it. Our hobby is not dependent on resellers to survive. That’s an unsustainable prospect, and it’ll leave a bunch of guys with a bunch of stuff they don’t really want because they want to sell it for way more than it’s worth. I’m not even against people having bought this to flip. It’s just annoying to keep seeing people upset that everything isn’t going for thousands right off the bat. That was already a ridiculous idea considering the initial funding struggle a year ago. What would make seller think that there would be mass amounts of people who couldn’t pay the $250 for a whole set that would eventually pay triple or more for the set OR hundreds of dollars for each thing separately? It’s illogical. |
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Post by onlymoc21 on Sept 4, 2022 4:15:18 GMT -5
Hey guys, random request but anyone got the new gen arena box (not shipper) dimensions HxWxD in mm?
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Post by gambit944 on Sept 4, 2022 4:42:08 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I’m so glad I backed the auction I don’t have the space for a ring but it’s important to have one and this is the one to have I think. Quality set all around.
Because I don’t have space I now need to disassemble.
Does anyone know how to get the two black feet from the entrance OFF?
It won’t fit back in the box until I take them off but they seem to not want to pull out and I’m afraid to force it and break it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Post by kgchampion on Sept 4, 2022 9:48:59 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I’m so glad I backed the auction I don’t have the space for a ring but it’s important to have one and this is the one to have I think. Quality set all around. Because I don’t have space I now need to disassemble. Does anyone know how to get the two black feet from the entrance OFF? It won’t fit back in the box until I take them off but they seem to not want to pull out and I’m afraid to force it and break it. Any help would be greatly appreciated I just pulled them off with my hands on a small amount of force. It came right off. Allegedly the instructions say they are permanently affixed once on, but I’ve found that not to be the case. I yanked those suckers clean off. They just clip together, so try giving the feet a little squeeze if you can. |
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Post by jacobl18 on Sept 4, 2022 9:52:38 GMT -5
The no was an answer to your question. The reality is that there is no solution to the underwhelming short term resale market when Mattel is planning to announce the next set in the midst of those underwhelming returns. It was a significant tactical error by Mattel to not have funded the next set during Comic Con, given the lower resale prices and the ongoing shipping delays. It's really about the impact on how many future sets end up being backed by those resellers. Anything that makes it less likely that people will back in the future is bad for Mattel (and us) in terms of there being more crowdfunding projects. That's particularly problematic when the margin for hitting all the tiers is so thin. If even 500 fewer units are sold of the next one (assuming the same tier set up) then all the tiers won't unlock. It's a precarious state for the future of these. To be honest dude, no one should care about appeasing resellers. Least of all Mattel. Their job is to provide the value to the consumer. The next (or any) crowdfund should be an idea that is popular enough to fund on its own by people who actually want it, not reliant on convincing people it’ll be worth something upon release. Or ever for that matter. Pictures of cardboard shipper boxes and completed listing on eBay aren’t selling the next crowdfund. You know what is? All those pictures of the set laid out with figures in the entrance and the ring. The testimonies of how happy people are to have it. The quality. That’s what’s really gonna sell people on the next thing. The reality of this set is that it almost didn’t get made. Macho got the set made and all the resellers you’re worried about got in purely for how rare they thought that figure would be. He probably will fetch a higher price than everything else in the set, but we’ll still have to see because it’s still 8k. If anything, resellers did it to themselves. They put this thing into “not rare enough” territory. Pretty much everyone who wanted this got it already, so there’s only going to be so many that will sell for what’s being asked right now. Maybe down the road it’ll go up again, but anyone wanting triple or more *right now* is probably going to be disappointed, and that has nothing to do with Mattel. If it wasn’t for resellers this would have never got made. |
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Post by kgchampion on Sept 4, 2022 9:53:13 GMT -5
For the people having a panic that the next crowdfunded project is going to fail, this first one was mostly a ring. Do you know how many people were in the comments going, “I’d like this, but I don’t need a ring. I already have a ring and/or don’t have room for it.” Well, the next project isn’t going to have a ring. Mattel said time and time again they weren’t going to crowd fund a ring. They were going to do something else. So quit setting your hair on fire until they announce the next project.
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Sept 4, 2022 11:05:28 GMT -5
For the people having a panic that the next crowdfunded project is going to fail, this first one was mostly a ring. Do you know how many people were in the comments going, “I’d like this, but I don’t need a ring. I already have a ring and/or don’t have room for it.” Well, the next project isn’t going to have a ring. Mattel said time and time again they weren’t going to crowd fund a ring. They were going to do something else. So quit setting your hair on fire until they announce the next project. Odds are it could be even more space consuming. That WCW Arena/RAW Arena, those things were way way bigger than a ring and would cost way more. Think a $250 ring was a tough sell because of cost and space? How's a $400 entrance going to go down? |
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Post by kgchampion on Sept 4, 2022 11:23:11 GMT -5
For the people having a panic that the next crowdfunded project is going to fail, this first one was mostly a ring. Do you know how many people were in the comments going, “I’d like this, but I don’t need a ring. I already have a ring and/or don’t have room for it.” Well, the next project isn’t going to have a ring. Mattel said time and time again they weren’t going to crowd fund a ring. They were going to do something else. So quit setting your hair on fire until they announce the next project. Odds are it could be even more space consuming. That WCW Arena/RAW Arena, those things were way way bigger than a ring and would cost way more. Think a $250 ring was a tough sell because of cost and space? How's a $400 entrance going to go down? They said the price would be in the same ballpark, unless I’m mistaken. And most people just didn’t want a ring because they either don’t care about a ring or already had one. Most complaints were just generally about the project being a ring. I don’t know why. Rings are cool. But the size seemed to be a secondary issue for other people. My point is people need to stop being doomers about a project that hasn’t even been announced yet. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 4, 2022 11:35:47 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone else is in the same boat, but I got the shipping notice email a couple of weeks ago and nothing since. There's no tracking number, and $15 seems way too low to ship something that size internationally. Has anyone in the UK received theirs yet?
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eatushsa2
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Post by eatushsa2 on Sept 4, 2022 11:44:33 GMT -5
I have to say landmark global is horrible. One of the slowest services I have ever experienced.
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