razorrock
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Post by razorrock on Jul 31, 2021 18:20:20 GMT -5
Finally getting a bit of momentum and now this =/ What not offering another ring? Big deal you’d have this one already. Maybe they’d just offer/add new ring skirts and turnbuckles as a tier of the next one. They charged me less than a day after they said no charges would be made. I'll be canceling Monday morning. I only backed it due to the revision they made on taking payments, then no warning and they charged me. I'll cancel Monday and check back the last day and see what the numbers look like.
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pitfallharry219
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Post by pitfallharry219 on Jul 31, 2021 18:23:46 GMT -5
Now we get to see the progress bar start going backwards.
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Post by Midnight: Dark Knight on Jul 31, 2021 18:40:45 GMT -5
If so many people have this major issue with being charged now, who or where does it say you have to order it now? Why not wait until the last day or even the last week to order it? I have the funds to order it now, but why do that if i can still get everything on the last day that the same guy does who ordered it day one
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Post by WrestlingFigWig on Jul 31, 2021 18:42:21 GMT -5
If so many people have this major issue with being charged now, who or where does it say you have to order it now? Why not wait until the last day or even the last week to order it? I have the funds to order it now, but why do that if i can still get everything on the last day that the same guy does who ordered it day one Mattel’s hoping there’s 4000 more people just like you.
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Post by kgchampion on Jul 31, 2021 19:01:03 GMT -5
Yep. Me as well. People who are trying to sway others to jump onboard by saying we won't get another crowd fundraiser if this isn't successful are sorta ignoring the fact that Bill already hinted the next planned campaign will also involve a ring...I don't have room for one ring, let alone two. This just isn't doing it for me. It's also worth mentioning, all the new features of this ring are only seen when you're building the ring. So for the everyday adult collector, how often are they taking apart and rebuilding their ring? I think they should have tried a 4-6 pack offering first for $100-150. Or even a Retro campaign. This was just too ambitious. If we do another the next would NOT include a ring. I hope you put an Attitude Era ring on the market at some point. I’d much rather have that than a New Gen ring. I understand that a big ring with a big Titan Tron stage probably doesn’t make financial sense. But a ring sold on RSC with Raw is War and Smackdown skirts and color coordinated ropes would be awesome.
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Post by Midnight: Dark Knight on Jul 31, 2021 19:19:45 GMT -5
If so many people have this major issue with being charged now, who or where does it say you have to order it now? Why not wait until the last day or even the last week to order it? I have the funds to order it now, but why do that if i can still get everything on the last day that the same guy does who ordered it day one Mattel’s hoping there’s 4000 more people just like you. I think there is a huge portion who will wait til the end, or next pay check which for some is bi weekly. Im sure there are plenty who plan to order but just have to budget it in accordingly. The number is probably larger than we think. The first wave of buyers are the ones who have to have everything first
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Post by Chip on Jul 31, 2021 19:58:21 GMT -5
oof thats not a good look what happened
my guess is the legal department got involved or something, cant change terms of a product when people have already paid because lawsuits. or something like that.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 31, 2021 20:34:52 GMT -5
I see people explaining their Doink love and I still think Doink is a lame pick. I admit I didn’t watch the New Gen as a kid, but that’s why I don’t have the nostalgia goggles on. Evil Doink was a fine idea, but evil clown is not a gimmick that’s going to sell a lot of tickets. That is a mid-card gimmick. Why? Because it’s a clown and clowns are lame, evil or not. I’ve seen his stuff over the years and it was interesting, but it’s still a clown gimmick. There’s nothing that screams “That’s so cool!” about Ultimate Doink if you’re not a big Doink fan. Doink elites were released twice and they were not flying off the shelves. I could easily find both Doinks at retail for months. This campaign is for a niche audience with a high goal for a figure woth an even smaller audience. When I think New Gen, I think the Kliq and I think wrestlecrap gimmicks. Razor, HBK, Bret, 123 Kid, Luger probably would’ve been more interesting. The only people that care about Ultimate Doink are people that are big Doink fans. An Ultimate Doink would rot on shelves. I like everything else about the campaign (would’ve gone with a better Diesel attire), except for Doink. He does nothing for me and I know I’m not alone because New Gen didn’t do great business at the time. I get your opinion, but the only way that top tier would have had real appeal and made collectors grab for their credit card is if it included a first-time figure like Jeff Jarrett. Even if leveraging a figure like that through an expensive playset would be frowned upon, it is a smart business model because people would have paid up regardless. And guys like Razor/Luger/Kid/Bret may have been more popular than Doink, but I believe it still wouldn't have sniffed the amount of required backers needed to reach 7k.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 20:37:08 GMT -5
IIIII LLLLOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEE YYYYOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUU
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Post by kgchampion on Jul 31, 2021 20:40:31 GMT -5
I screwed up quoting. Ignore this.
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Post by kgchampion on Jul 31, 2021 20:40:54 GMT -5
Yeah, you’re probably right, guy above me.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Jul 31, 2021 20:42:32 GMT -5
I, like others, want to see this thing made and be a successful avenue for Mattel. Years people have asked for this and now it’s just complaining because it isn’t exactly why everyone wants. While I think they could have gone different routes and different eras, with rose color glasses on most love the nostalgia looking back on that era. I think the payment issues have given this a lot of problems, but another huge contribution to the negative stigma is here in the boards. The negativity is contagious. Just my opinion, but the negativity here has been a major hindering factor to other members here.
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Post by @WWERetroStars on Jul 31, 2021 20:47:24 GMT -5
Thanks for making. Well done.
I’ve always read your posts here in Brother Love voice. Sadly, this video has now ruined that for me. LOL. Oh well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 20:50:13 GMT -5
Thanks for making. Well done. I’ve always read your posts here in Brother Love voice. Sadly, this video has now ruined that for me. LOL. Oh well. Nooooooo that breaks my heart! But it had to be done. I just want this to succeed. Thank you for the kind words. I'm honestly expecting to get sh*t on for this. But again, if one person changes their mind, I'd be happy. I love you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 21:05:48 GMT -5
It would be an absolute tragedy if this doesn't get funded.
We not only lose the opportunity to get an amazing set we would never get elsewhere, but we would also probably squander any chance in the future of a "too big for retail" set as well. Plus, it's the first crowdsourcing project for the WWE line. What a bad look it would be for all parties if it were to fail.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 21:12:13 GMT -5
It would be an absolute tragedy if this doesn't get funded. We not only lose the opportunity to get an amazing set we would never get elsewhere, but we would also probably squander any chance in the future of a "too big for retail" set as well. Plus, it's the first crowdsourcing project for the WWE line. What a bad look it would be for if it were to fail. I love you. Yeah, but you can also blame most of that on Mattel. From the start you never should have been charged for something that would be shipped next year, secondly, you shouldn’t tell people you’re changing your stance to now you won’t be charged then the very next day you’re back charging people. Also, if you wanna sale things like this, you also should’ve added a first time in the line UE figure to come with it, like if you had to wait to to get that said guy signed you do that, but a Diesel? And I would love to have another Doink, but I wouldn’t pay $250 just to get it. You add idk, pick 2 from this list Skinner, Jeff Jarrett, Zeus, Barbarian, Brother Love, Jim Cornette, add a blue cage or something , you would likely have a better chance at getting your 5k. And another thing, why have a month to get to 5k? What’s the rush? Let it last throughout the year and see how it does. And to add to it, you should’ve never threw this out there during SDCc when you have all these pre orders, should’ve put this up before
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 21:17:30 GMT -5
It would be an absolute tragedy if this doesn't get funded. We not only lose the opportunity to get an amazing set we would never get elsewhere, but we would also probably squander any chance in the future of a "too big for retail" set as well. Plus, it's the first crowdsourcing project for the WWE line. What a bad look it would be for if it were to fail. I love you. Yeah, but you can also blame most of that on Mattel. From the start you never should have been charged for something that would be shipped next year, secondly, you shouldn’t tell people you’re changing your stance to now you won’t be charged then the very next day you’re back charging people. Also, if you wanna sale things like this, you also should’ve added a first time in the line UE figure to come with it, like if you had to wait to to get that said guy signed you do that, but a Diesel? And I would love to have another Doink, but I wouldn’t pay $250 just to get it. You add idk, pick 2 from this list Skinner, Jeff Jarrett, Zeus, Barbarian, Brother Love, Jim Cornette, add a blue cage or something , you would likely have a better chance at getting your 5k. And another thing, why have a month to get to 5k? What’s the rush? Let it last throughout the year and see how it does. And to add to it, you should’ve never threw this out there during SDCc when you have all these pre orders, should’ve put this up before Has there been any official statement about the reversal on the charging policy? I'm honestly stunned at the number of people who rejected this because they didn't want to be charged upfront. I mean, obviously it's a real thing because when they changed their stance on it, there was a small rush of backers. But still, I don't see why it's such a big deal. If the funding fails, you get 100% of your money back. I love you.
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Post by Midnight: Dark Knight on Jul 31, 2021 21:26:39 GMT -5
Yeah, but you can also blame most of that on Mattel. From the start you never should have been charged for something that would be shipped next year, secondly, you shouldn’t tell people you’re changing your stance to now you won’t be charged then the very next day you’re back charging people. Also, if you wanna sale things like this, you also should’ve added a first time in the line UE figure to come with it, like if you had to wait to to get that said guy signed you do that, but a Diesel? And I would love to have another Doink, but I wouldn’t pay $250 just to get it. You add idk, pick 2 from this list Skinner, Jeff Jarrett, Zeus, Barbarian, Brother Love, Jim Cornette, add a blue cage or something , you would likely have a better chance at getting your 5k. And another thing, why have a month to get to 5k? What’s the rush? Let it last throughout the year and see how it does. And to add to it, you should’ve never threw this out there during SDCc when you have all these pre orders, should’ve put this up before Has there been any official statement about the reversal on the charging policy? I'm honestly stunned at the number of people who rejected this because they didn't want to be charged upfront. I mean, obviously it's a real thing because when they changed their stance on it, there was a small rush of backers. But still, I don't see why it's such a big deal. If the funding fails, you get 100% of your money back. I love you. Or they could just order it at the end, i don’t understand how upset people are with being charged now with the possibility of a refund or it being funded. Just wait and order it when you have the funds. Problem solved.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 21:30:12 GMT -5
Wait.... People are actually upset that they're being charged right now for it?? You gotta be ing kidding me. Kickstarter says hold my beer. At any rate I backed it day 1. Sad it probably won't come to fruition, that ring was something I've been dreaming of since I was like 6 years old, but alas. It happens. I still have my Jakks scale ring, which is pretty darn close, outside of the saggy ass ring posts.
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Post by hijito on Jul 31, 2021 21:32:48 GMT -5
Oh so they changed it and said they WONT charge up front and then went and did it anyway i was wondering why there was a sudden boom of growth on this and it was probably DIRECTLY connected to thinking the up-front billing was gone. looks like billing at the end would have funded it for sure
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