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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Oct 1, 2021 18:08:57 GMT -5
AEW is a wrestling show.
WWE is "action entertainment". I'm a fan of wrestling. Seriously what's the difference? Wrestling isn't just two sweaty men in the ring. Storytelling, feuds, segments, brawls. That has been wrestling for decades and both shows give us that. Wrestling is Action Entertainment.
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 1, 2021 18:31:16 GMT -5
If you don't know the difference, we know how you voted.
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Post by jason1980s on Oct 1, 2021 18:36:03 GMT -5
I feel like AEW is the mid 80s WWF and mid 90s WCW, Tony just keeps doing everything right by wrestling fans, wrestlers and their families and it works! Much like 1980s stars made in the territories went to WWF in the mid 80s and WWF stars went to WCW in the mid 90s, wrestlers are going to AEW because they know it is the best for them.
Vince's brain growth was probably stunted when he was a child when his father left him, he will always think and act like a child, he is an almost 80 year old who still acts like a child. He doesn't care about you or any of his talent. He's the kid in the sandbox who doesn't want to play with anyone else. Anything outside of wrestling he touches fails and yet he seems to hate "wrestling." He is probably resentful his father was in the "wrestling" business and tries to do anything he can to distance himself from it.
I believe AEW will be successful for a long time, not because Tony is the owner but because fans and wrestlers are desperate for a company with an owner that actually loves wrestling. I truly believe AEW is the Home Depot to WWE's Hechinger! And Hechinger went out of business.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Oct 1, 2021 18:40:16 GMT -5
If you don't know the difference, we know how you voted. Maybe I didn't vote. At the end of the day AEW can spend the entire 2 hours of Dynamite calling themselves Pro Wrestling but they are an entertainment show. Didn't they have a wedding a while ago? & most of Orange Cassidy's stuff is intended for comedy.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Oct 1, 2021 22:46:24 GMT -5
AEW is a wrestling show. WWE is "action entertainment". I'm a fan of wrestling.
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 1, 2021 23:20:14 GMT -5
The results of the poll prove otherwise.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Oct 1, 2021 23:27:02 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Oct 2, 2021 5:45:19 GMT -5
AEW is a wrestling show. WWE is "action entertainment". I'm a fan of wrestling. And both involve actors playing a character, performing choreographed, "action" maneuvers, in matches with a scripted outcome... All in the name of "entertainment".
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Post by K5 on Oct 2, 2021 11:53:53 GMT -5
if you want to say all wrestling is literally sport based entertainment, then congratulations for stating the obvious
if you want to discuss wwe’s intentionally marketed concept of sports entertainment, and how they’ve tried to void wrestling - from terminology to presentation - then that’s a different conversation.
wwe’s ‘sports entertainment’ is certainly a bastardization of pro wrestling, while aew is a return to a pro wrestling presentation.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Oct 2, 2021 12:25:21 GMT -5
I really don't see how AEW and WWE are all that different in how they present pro wrestling.
They're both sports entertainment. Neither is pure pro wrestling. They have stories, they gave gimmicks, they have characters.
AEW isn't a pro wrestling company. They have characters. They have gimmick matches. Two of the most popular characters in AEW are a dinosaur and a caveman. They have a slacker that doesn't wrestle that juiced a an evil heel group in a skit that's straight out of the Attitude Era. They have gimmick matches directly inspired by WCW and WWE. They have a cult running around. Broken Matt was running wild there for a bit. They've got an emo skater kid running around with a geriatric man wearing face paint.
To say that AEW is a pro wrestling company and WWE isn't is wrong. I say this as someone who doesn't watch WWE anymore, I much prefer AEW. But AEW is just as much "sports entertainment" as WWE is.
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Post by bWo on Oct 2, 2021 13:00:10 GMT -5
If you don't know who to vote for between AEW and WWE than you ain't b...........
I watch Raw basically every week. I've been watching WWF sine the early mid 80's. I want Raw to be great like it used to be. Some day it might be. The way things have been going for seemingly so long now though those chances seem less and less.
I don't watch Smackdown. I found that when they do the "draft" it's like bringing a bunch of new people to Raw and actually does freshen things up because a lot of times I have no idea who the people are or what gimmick they've been running. I love when Sheamus has the bar brawler gear on during Raw. Someone pointed out that he'd been wearing that on Smackdown. I had no idea. That was new to me even though it was apparently old. Not watching Smackdown allows for that "newness." At the same time I've also been told if I'm only going to watch one show, it should be Smackdown.
AEW has become my wrestling company. I know I'm going to get what I want far more often than not. It's not even close at this point.
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Post by bWo on Oct 2, 2021 13:20:05 GMT -5
I really don't see how AEW and WWE are all that different in how they present pro wrestling. They're both sports entertainment. Neither is pure pro wrestling. They have stories, they gave gimmicks, they have characters. AEW isn't a pro wrestling company. They have characters. They have gimmick matches. Two of the most popular characters in AEW are a dinosaur and a caveman. They have a slacker that doesn't wrestle that juiced a an evil heel group in a skit that's straight out of the Attitude Era. They have gimmick matches directly inspired by WCW and WWE. They have a cult running around. Broken Matt was running wild there for a bit. They've got an emo skater kid running around with a geriatric man wearing face paint. To say that AEW is a pro wrestling company and WWE isn't is wrong. I say this as someone who doesn't watch WWE anymore, I much prefer AEW. But AEW is just as much "sports entertainment" as WWE is. Yes and no. Professional wrestling is by default "sports entertainment." Vince has put WWE into a different category though. He hires entire script and story writers. Dozens of them. "Special effects" have been a thing in wrestling for a long time, but Vince has taken that to a new level too. AEW is nowhere near WWE when it comes to stuff like that. I think it's fair and accurate to say AEW is a "sports entertainment" company like WWE was before it evolved into whatever it is today.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Oct 2, 2021 18:58:44 GMT -5
AEW is a wrestling show.
WWE is "action entertainment". I'm a fan of wrestling. Seriously what's the difference? Wrestling isn't just two sweaty men in the ring. Storytelling, feuds, segments, brawls. That has been wrestling for decades and both shows give us that. Wrestling is Action Entertainment. WWE is action adventure
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 2, 2021 20:03:57 GMT -5
People that think WWE is any sort of a "wrestling show" definitely show their age. Sorry but it's true, if you grew up and your first dose of "wrestling" was the Attitude Era or the nWo era ... you will never understand. AEW is the closest thing we have to the days when the NWA ruled all and Mid-Atlantic, WCCW, AWA, and Championship Wrestling from Georgia were what you'd see on TV. Other than live interviews ... there was nothing OTHER than wrestling.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Oct 3, 2021 7:52:47 GMT -5
I haven't watched any WWE since 25th May 2019. I haven't missed a single AEW PPV or an episode of Dynamite or Rampage. In fact, I get excited on Wednesdays and Fridays like I did when I was a child looking forward to WWF.
WWE means nothing to me now. I don't even think about it.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Oct 3, 2021 12:22:21 GMT -5
They’re both wrestling. They’re both entertainment.
They each have their good and bad.
I don’t think old NWA or Midsouth were doing musicals and mimosa matches but whatever you guys need to tell yourself to feel better about it.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Oct 3, 2021 16:09:22 GMT -5
WWE IMO has more matches now than it did during the Attitude Era. People look back at stuff like DX invading Nitro and call it one of the greatest moments in wrestling history but realistically it had nothing to do with wrestling lol.
Wrestling is the battle between good and evil where people settle their differences in the ring. You can't have a match without a story behind it. Wrestling doesn't work like that.
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Post by CM Tusk on Oct 3, 2021 17:38:08 GMT -5
“The pro wrestling I like is the only real wrestling!!!!!”
It’s all sports entertainment. It’s not real in ring competition. Every company is staged entertainment. Wrestling fans are so dumb, I swear.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 17:58:29 GMT -5
*sigh* why did this turn into that debate lol. It's also very simple. WWE wants to distance itself from being called pro wrestling and even acknowledging the word wrestling. They prefer sports entertainment. This isn't a mystery, they're very open about it.
Likewise, basically every other company embraces the term pro wrestling, and wants to distance themselves from the idea of being called sports entertainment. They're also all generally very open about this.
Anyone is welcome to sit here spinning their tires trying to label one with the other label, but it's very clear what the companies own perceptions are, and they're not the same thing. Neither of them want to be called the other thing, and want to differentiate themselves from the other type of product.
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Post by K5 on Oct 3, 2021 18:10:30 GMT -5
*sigh* why did this turn into that debate lol. It's also very simple. WWE wants to distance itself from being called pro wrestling and even acknowledging the word wrestling. They prefer sports entertainment. This isn't a mystery, they're very open about it. Likewise, basically every other company embraces the term pro wrestling, and wants to distance themselves from the idea of being called sports entertainment. They're also all generally very open about this. Anyone is welcome to sit here spinning their tires trying to label one with the other label, but it's very clear what the companies own perceptions are, and they're not the same thing. Neither of them want to be called the other thing, and want to differentiate themselves from the other type of product. [/thread] that about sums it up.
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