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Post by Yambag Jones on Nov 6, 2021 9:39:43 GMT -5
Because they were treating NXT like a third touring brand. They have changed the approach and it’s younger and constantly rotating talent out if they aren’t improving or moving up they got moved up and were squandered. my point is, if there was enough interest for all the initial investment, why not see those talents through on the main roster? they weren’t even given an actual opportunity to possibly get over since when is 36 old anyways How dare you bring logical thinking to the conversation?
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Nov 6, 2021 10:14:18 GMT -5
Huh, maybe Anderson tweet “They suck” about WWE wasn’t so wrong after all. If what Nia said is true, WWE are scum for that. Someday, sometime, each of them having a hand in how they handle these peoples careers and livelihood will answer for their doings.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Nov 6, 2021 10:16:21 GMT -5
Vince shat the bed with the company since covid hit. Just thought I’d sum up what I think most would agree on.
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Nov 6, 2021 10:46:41 GMT -5
Huh, maybe Anderson tweet “They suck” about WWE wasn’t so wrong after all. If what Nia said is true, WWE are scum for that. Someday, sometime, each of them having a hand in how they handle these peoples careers and livelihood will answer for their doings. if everyones feelings were in play with whether or not someone had a job then no one would be fired ever. shes dangerous and not good for the business.
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Post by Scott! on Nov 6, 2021 13:44:45 GMT -5
Vince shat the bed with the company since covid hit. Just thought I’d sum up what I think most would agree on. You said it bud!
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Nov 6, 2021 14:30:22 GMT -5
And crap row is dead just like anyone who isn’t a WWE Shill could have told you. Man I so love be right. Every time I try to read this, my head hurts.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Nov 6, 2021 19:54:13 GMT -5
Huh, maybe Anderson tweet “They suck” about WWE wasn’t so wrong after all. If what Nia said is true, WWE are scum for that. Someday, sometime, each of them having a hand in how they handle these peoples careers and livelihood will answer for their doings. if everyones feelings were in play with whether or not someone had a job then no one would be fired ever. shes dangerous and not good for the business. Never said she wasn’t reckless or a good worker did I? What I did says though was that their handling of the situation, if true, is incredibly piss poor. If someone is dealing with mental health issues it has no bearing on the quality of their in ring work weather or not they should just be let go with no explanation after requesting more time for their mental health leave. If they don’t need her because apparently “budget cuts” the thats what it is but to not outright address her request for time to care for herself is awful - no matter which way you want to spin it. I really believe that the WWE will outlast any competition, but their demise will come from within when/if it happens. Vince will self sabotage the company at this rate if he isn’t careful because he doesn’t appear to be adapting with the times.
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Post by casanova on Nov 8, 2021 7:07:25 GMT -5
With respect to the ones who were let go, I understand the cuts. They are all too old for being build up as future stars and therefore replaceable/dispensable. If WWE is going to focus on their core roster of Wrestlers who are in their 30s and 40s and replaces most of the others with younger talent I can totally understand that business decision.
Keith Lee for example wont be at 100% before the end of 2022. He needs to lose weight and get back in shape from an apparently long period where he has been sidelined. Of course I feel sorry for him personally, but what is the point of pushing for a big man who is close to 40? You rather look for someone else to fill that spot.
It’s the same reason why WWE shouldn’t hire a guy like Brian Cage. He is 37 and is not going to be a future star.
Of course exceptions like AJ Styles should always be possible.
This being said, I hate the fact that Monet is already gone. She was as hot as my wife should be. 🤣
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Nov 8, 2021 9:43:19 GMT -5
I can’t imagine merchandizing partners like Mattel or 2k are happy with these releases and the idea that this could be normal every 6 months!? How are partners supposed to invest in action figure production, look at the shelves right now! It’s full of released wrestlers…that’s horrible for business. 2k can’t release the video game because the roster has changed 35 times since they started.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Nov 8, 2021 10:49:58 GMT -5
With respect to the ones who were let go, I understand the cuts. They are all too old for being build up as future stars and therefore replaceable/dispensable. If WWE is going to focus on their core roster of Wrestlers who are in their 30s and 40s and replaces most of the others with younger talent I can totally understand that business decision. Keith Lee for example wont be at 100% before the end of 2022. He needs to lose weight and get back in shape from an apparently long period where he has been sidelined. Of course I feel sorry for him personally, but what is the point of pushing for a big man who is close to 40? You rather look for someone else to fill that spot. It’s the same reason why WWE shouldn’t hire a guy like Brian Cage. He is 37 and is not going to be a future star. Of course exceptions like AJ Styles should always be possible. This being said, I hate the fact that Monet is already gone. She was as hot as my wife should be. 🤣 DDP was no spring chicken when he got pushed
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Post by fishhook36 on Nov 8, 2021 11:45:31 GMT -5
With respect to the ones who were let go, I understand the cuts. They are all too old for being build up as future stars and therefore replaceable/dispensable. If WWE is going to focus on their core roster of Wrestlers who are in their 30s and 40s and replaces most of the others with younger talent I can totally understand that business decision. Keith Lee for example wont be at 100% before the end of 2022. He needs to lose weight and get back in shape from an apparently long period where he has been sidelined. Of course I feel sorry for him personally, but what is the point of pushing for a big man who is close to 40? You rather look for someone else to fill that spot. It’s the same reason why WWE shouldn’t hire a guy like Brian Cage. He is 37 and is not going to be a future star. Of course exceptions like AJ Styles should always be possible. This being said, I hate the fact that Monet is already gone. She was as hot as my wife should be. 🤣 Then don’t hire them in the first place. At the end of the day every one deserves a part of the blame. HHH - for hiring these people have them spend 3 to 5 years in developmental knowing his father in law has a type. WWE - for not realizing pro wrestling has changed.
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Post by casanova on Nov 8, 2021 11:49:53 GMT -5
With respect to the ones who were let go, I understand the cuts. They are all too old for being build up as future stars and therefore replaceable/dispensable. If WWE is going to focus on their core roster of Wrestlers who are in their 30s and 40s and replaces most of the others with younger talent I can totally understand that business decision. Keith Lee for example wont be at 100% before the end of 2022. He needs to lose weight and get back in shape from an apparently long period where he has been sidelined. Of course I feel sorry for him personally, but what is the point of pushing for a big man who is close to 40? You rather look for someone else to fill that spot. It’s the same reason why WWE shouldn’t hire a guy like Brian Cage. He is 37 and is not going to be a future star. Of course exceptions like AJ Styles should always be possible. This being said, I hate the fact that Monet is already gone. She was as hot as my wife should be. 🤣 DDP was no spring chicken when he got pushed Yes, that is one of those exceptions I was mentioning. However DDP was in a totally different time of pro wrestling. AJ Styles however shows that it is still possible.
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Post by casanova on Nov 8, 2021 11:52:19 GMT -5
With respect to the ones who were let go, I understand the cuts. They are all too old for being build up as future stars and therefore replaceable/dispensable. If WWE is going to focus on their core roster of Wrestlers who are in their 30s and 40s and replaces most of the others with younger talent I can totally understand that business decision. Keith Lee for example wont be at 100% before the end of 2022. He needs to lose weight and get back in shape from an apparently long period where he has been sidelined. Of course I feel sorry for him personally, but what is the point of pushing for a big man who is close to 40? You rather look for someone else to fill that spot. It’s the same reason why WWE shouldn’t hire a guy like Brian Cage. He is 37 and is not going to be a future star. Of course exceptions like AJ Styles should always be possible. This being said, I hate the fact that Monet is already gone. She was as hot as my wife should be. 🤣 Then don’t hire them in the first place. At the end of the day every one deserves a part of the blame. HHH - for hiring these people have them spend 3 to 5 years in developmental knowing his father in law has a type. WWE - for not realizing pro wrestling has changed. The philosophy has changed. These people have been hired with different intentions. People criticize WWE for having a too old rooster, than WWE is going through it and people criticize them for doing so. I am no WWE Mark but I can understand their business decisions here. Sorry for being heartless. 🤷🏼♂️
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Nov 8, 2021 15:30:27 GMT -5
Send em all to AEW/Impact/NWA/ROH/MLW etc.
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Post by LA Times on Nov 8, 2021 22:44:10 GMT -5
I can’t imagine merchandizing partners like Mattel or 2k are happy with these releases and the idea that this could be normal every 6 months!? How are partners supposed to invest in action figure production, look at the shelves right now! It’s full of released wrestlers…that’s horrible for business. 2k can’t release the video game because the roster has changed 35 times since they started. The WWE has been having these Winter/Spring/Summer/Fall cleanings since April 2020. Licensees must have backup plans by now.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Nov 9, 2021 10:49:09 GMT -5
I can’t imagine merchandizing partners like Mattel or 2k are happy with these releases and the idea that this could be normal every 6 months!? How are partners supposed to invest in action figure production, look at the shelves right now! It’s full of released wrestlers…that’s horrible for business. 2k can’t release the video game because the roster has changed 35 times since they started. The WWE has been having these Winter/Spring/Summer/Fall cleanings since April 2020. Licensees must have backup plans by now. It happens before/after the quarterly earnings reports. Their goal is maximizing profit to their shareholders. I don’t think they ultimately care about the game because they know their diehard fans will buy it even if there’s only 20 people on the active roster.
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 9, 2021 13:40:36 GMT -5
The WWE has been having these Winter/Spring/Summer/Fall cleanings since April 2020. Licensees must have backup plans by now. It happens before/after the quarterly earnings reports. Their goal is maximizing profit to their shareholders. I don’t think they ultimately care about the game because they know their diehard fans will buy it even if there’s only 20 people on the active roster. I agree the WWE likely doesn’t care, but it has to be hell for licensees, especially Mattel and 2K, who usually have to plan figures waves and game rosters nearly a year in advance. There was also a report a few months back when 2K delayed the release of 2K22 to next spring that the WWE was furious, yet 2K had to explain that stars like The Fiend and Strowman were integral parts of the game, and it’s not a simple click of a button to remove them from what’s already been developed. If anything, it has to leave a bad taste in licensees mouths that the WWE doesn’t understand how these frequent roster cuts can impact these potential revenue streams. 2K wants to release a new game as much as the WWE does, yet the WWE keeps making moves that will continue to delay these products (again, the WWE likely doesn’t care if there’s 20 performers in the game, but when 2K has been developing a game around 80 performers for over a year, it’s no easy task to remove what’s been developed and shows a lack of care/understanding on the WWE’s part to be upset when the game is delayed due to there actions).
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 9, 2021 13:45:44 GMT -5
While I’m not the biggest Kross or Lee fan, I will say I think they offered more with regards to future potential than a guy like Damien Priest. From what I’ve seen and heard, the crowd doesn’t seem to be all that into him and he’s older than both Kross and Lee (which goes against some reports that the cuts were partly due to age).
Again, not the biggest Kross or Lee fan, but I don’t think either got a fare shake on the main roster. They took Scarlett away from Kross and gave him some weird “BDSM/gladiator” gimmick while Lee got new music and was forced to change his ring-gear (and this is before he got sick).
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Nov 10, 2021 15:55:21 GMT -5
I can’t imagine merchandizing partners like Mattel or 2k are happy with these releases and the idea that this could be normal every 6 months!? How are partners supposed to invest in action figure production, look at the shelves right now! It’s full of released wrestlers…that’s horrible for business. 2k can’t release the video game because the roster has changed 35 times since they started. The WWE has been having these Winter/Spring/Summer/Fall cleanings since April 2020. Licensees must have backup plans by now. Never like this though, it’s so erratic. In the past they would job somebody out, they’d be off tv, you knew when somebody was on thin ice and by default, They’d get less product due to irrelevancy. Some of the people they’re releasing lately, are regulars on the show and some are in the midst of being pushed! You can’t tell me Mattel didn’t have Karrion Kross & Keith Lee figs in the works. 2k can’t get a game out because the roster must be HORRIBLY outdated every 2 months. If I was these licensees, I’d go back to pushing toys/ games of the top guys. It’s boring as hell but it’s impossible to guess which way WWE’s wind will blow next right now.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Nov 12, 2021 13:14:33 GMT -5
While I’m not the biggest Kross or Lee fan, I will say I think they offered more with regards to future potential than a guy like Damien Priest. From what I’ve seen and heard, the crowd doesn’t seem to be all that into him and he’s older than both Kross and Lee (which goes against some reports that the cuts were partly due to age). Again, not the biggest Kross or Lee fan, but I don’t think either got a fare shake on the main roster. They took Scarlett away from Kross and gave him some weird “BDSM/gladiator” gimmick while Lee got new music and was forced to change his ring-gear (and this is before he got sick). The crowd loves Priest ? Lol
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