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Post by newgenandy on Feb 17, 2022 14:47:17 GMT -5
There’s really no downside for Mattel doing this. Only for scalpers and flippers who bought multiple before they shot up. It’s a win win for everyone There’s no downside to putting Best of 2020 on the packaging However there is a downside to collectors losing faith in a company straight up rereleasing exactly the same stuff 2 years later. No matter what the majority of people on here pretend. Most of us do like the fact that a lot of these things hold a good amount of value, even if you’re idea going in is to not sell them There is a downside to putting best of 2020 on the package 1. It’s not being released cos it was the best 2. Why should mattel have to go to extra expense to put a little note on the box so people can still try and flip originals for more than they paid? |
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Post by SteveHulk on Feb 17, 2022 18:16:42 GMT -5
The people I can see mad mad are the ones who didn’t have patience/awareness/whatever and paid $200+ for a $10-20 piece of plastic that no one will care about in 30 years. That's a bit unfair, when no-one knew (or suspected) these were going to get a re-release... if you missed out and wanted the figure, you're only option was to pay secondary prices or do without. I don't think people should be ridiculed or made fun of because they spent more to get one... there are lots of people out there who collect every UE figure or every Shawn Michaels figure. Great in theory... but what if you don't live near any Targets or Walmarts (or decent figure stores)? Not to mention us international collectors... we only get 3 Elites from the regular line at retail - let alone any of Legends or sub-lines. Paying inflated/secondary prices is often our only option. |
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Feb 17, 2022 18:24:34 GMT -5
The people I can see mad mad are the ones who didn’t have patience/awareness/whatever and paid $200+ for a $10-20 piece of plastic that no one will care about in 30 years. That's a bit unfair, when no-one knew (or suspected) these were going to get a re-release... if you missed out and wanted the figure, you're only option was to pay secondary prices or do without. I don't think people should be ridiculed or made fun of because they spent more to get one... there are lots of people out there who collect every UE figure or every Shawn Michaels figure. Great in theory... but what if you don't live near any Targets or Walmarts (or decent figure stores)? Not to mention us international collectors... we only get 3 Elites from the regular line at retail - let alone any of Legends or sub-lines. Paying inflated/secondary prices is often our only option. The people that paid whatever they paid made that decision, that’s on them. I nor Mattel is their financial advisor. I have sympathy for people wanting to find this crap for retail prices. I don’t have sympathy for people that are complaining because they overpaid for something. Yes do without. It’s what I did. I have a Shawn Michaels collection, and it has been minus the UE. Nothing to get bent out of shape about. I don’t need these things to “hold value” because I’m not selling them. I’m also not gonna go broke because of them. Blah blah blah toy forum. Prioritize. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Feb 17, 2022 21:28:00 GMT -5
The people that paid whatever they paid made that decision, that’s on them. I nor Mattel is their financial advisor. I have sympathy for people wanting to find this crap for retail prices. I don’t have sympathy for people that are complaining because they overpaid for something. Yes do without. It’s what I did. I have a Shawn Michaels collection, and it has been minus the UE. Nothing to get bent out of shape about. I don’t need these things to “hold value” because I’m not selling them. I’m also not gonna go broke because of them. Blah blah blah toy forum. Prioritize. Exactly. There are (many?) people who would rather pay the extra than do without, so they give the figure priority over other figures/things. For me, if I can afford it, I'll pay extra to get a rare/limited release figure if I want it badly enough... I'd rather have that figure and go without some other figures I was going to get. Some people feel differently and would rather do without said figure or are against paying secondary-market prices... that's fine too - whatever makes you happy.  |
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Post by hulkmustpose on Feb 17, 2022 22:49:36 GMT -5
Re-release The Rock Amazon exclusive while your at it too. Really stick it to those scalpers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2022 16:17:14 GMT -5
I don't understand the mindset of certain people who actually don't want other people to be able to get the figures....like, how selfish and insane does a person have to be? Like, some people are actually pissed that they have WWE ultimate Brock/HBK and now people that missed it are going to get another chance.....mind boggling. typical leftist behavior, not really surprising |
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Post by cem on Feb 18, 2022 18:19:06 GMT -5
Re-release The Rock Amazon exclusive while your at it too. Really stick it to those scalpers. Would love to see it! There’s currently an empty box being sold on eBay for $99 lol. Didn’t know empty boxes had this kind of value. :-| |
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Post by hb2k4life on Feb 18, 2022 21:13:31 GMT -5
As an Adult collector I feel that if mattel wants to re-release a figure that a lot of people missed out on. Great. But... There needs to be something on the box or figure that says its from 2022. Collectors like me will still buy the re-release because I have a goal of owning every Ultimate edition that comes out. However, the collector in me is also disappointed that a prize piece that I own MOC and loose will just be released again without any changes. Not fair to original owners. Re release the figure exactly the same, but mark the foot or box. that way everyone is happy.
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Post by CM Tusk on Feb 18, 2022 21:20:48 GMT -5
As an owner of both figures, and having paid stupid prices for them, it doesn’t bother me that they are releasing them again.
It would bother me if they did a package variation though. I want to collect every Ultimate MOC. I don’t want to buy the same figure again because the package is slightly different. It’s dumb enough I’m going to buy another Amazon Hogan because he’s packaged two different ways.
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Post by hb2k4life on Feb 18, 2022 21:20:53 GMT -5
I honestly thought a cool way for Mattel to do Elite Series 100 would be to do a poll of every elite that they are still able to make, and the set is just whichever six are voted on the most. We could just have a set of the nWo RSE Macho Man, Akeem, Pink & Black Attack Bret, Legends 6 Eddie...whoever else would get voted on. They can be in special Elite packaging to make them different than their original boxes, too. I think it would be sure-fire way to make the set special and have people buying it up like crazy. Really great idea. However the fx features have really improved over the 11-12 years mattel has had the license. Also most legends they made back then are no longer available to make because of their rights. love the idea though |
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Post by WWE Fig guy on Feb 18, 2022 21:39:39 GMT -5
Collecting wrestling figures is an an absolute different hobby than buying,waiting on market response and hopefully flipping for a higher profit...thats where we are now?!on top of that, going after Mattel for wanting their business to generate more revenue? Buying products,showing support to a company that the same individual can turn and criticize the very same company for trying to pump more money in its veins to move their money line is a little backwards...but at the end of the day it is the wrasslin business
cant expect the fans and supporters to be that different from the people on the inside
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Post by hulkmustpose on Feb 18, 2022 22:43:32 GMT -5
As an Adult collector I feel that if mattel wants to re-release a figure that a lot of people missed out on. Great. But... There needs to be something on the box or figure that says its from 2022. Collectors like me will still buy the re-release because I have a goal of owning every Ultimate edition that comes out. However, the collector in me is also disappointed that a prize piece that I own MOC and loose will just be released again without any changes. Not fair to original owners. Re release the figure exactly the same, but mark the foot or box. that way everyone is happy. Why is it unfair? Mattel never made any promises to you when you bought UE Shawn. They never said they’d never rerelease that version. I think we all need to start realizing that Mattel doesn’t owe anything to us and we don’t owe anything to them. |
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Post by hb2k4life on Feb 20, 2022 13:09:01 GMT -5
As an Adult collector I feel that if mattel wants to re-release a figure that a lot of people missed out on. Great. But... There needs to be something on the box or figure that says its from 2022. Collectors like me will still buy the re-release because I have a goal of owning every Ultimate edition that comes out. However, the collector in me is also disappointed that a prize piece that I own MOC and loose will just be released again without any changes. Not fair to original owners. Re release the figure exactly the same, but mark the foot or box. that way everyone is happy. Why is it unfair? Mattel never made any promises to you when you bought UE Shawn. They never said they’d never rerelease that version. I think we all need to start realizing that Mattel doesn’t owe anything to us and we don’t owe anything to them. Have to disagree. We are Mattels customers. They count on us buying their products. They released an Ultimate line of figures for collectors, not kids. Unless you know many 6 year olds that want a Hbk figure from a match 25 years ago. As I said above I have no problem with them re-releasing the same exact figure, but it needs a different foot mark or small change to the box to show its made in 2022. I have no problem the way they did the Lost legends series. I have been collecting mattel since they got the wwe. They should listen to customer feedback on this |
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Post by newgenandy on Feb 20, 2022 13:44:31 GMT -5
Why is it unfair? Mattel never made any promises to you when you bought UE Shawn. They never said they’d never rerelease that version. I think we all need to start realizing that Mattel doesn’t owe anything to us and we don’t owe anything to them. Have to disagree. We are Mattels customers. They count on us buying their products. They released an Ultimate line of figures for collectors, not kids. Unless you know many 6 year olds that want a Hbk figure from a match 25 years ago. As I said above I have no problem with them re-releasing the same exact figure, but it needs a different foot mark or small change to the box to show its made in 2022. I have no problem the way they did the Lost legends series. I have been collecting mattel since they got the wwe. They should listen to customer feedback on this Listen to a minority of customers? Nah, they’re good 👍 |
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Post by jacobl18 on Feb 20, 2022 18:00:18 GMT -5
As an Adult collector I feel that if mattel wants to re-release a figure that a lot of people missed out on. Great. But... There needs to be something on the box or figure that says its from 2022. Collectors like me will still buy the re-release because I have a goal of owning every Ultimate edition that comes out. However, the collector in me is also disappointed that a prize piece that I own MOC and loose will just be released again without any changes. Not fair to original owners. Re release the figure exactly the same, but mark the foot or box. that way everyone is happy. This 1000%. This would make everybody happy. Collectors will still have rare figures and everyone that missed out will have another opportunity to purchase it. |
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Post by CM Tusk on Feb 20, 2022 18:10:42 GMT -5
No package variations. Please.
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Post by hulkmustpose on Feb 20, 2022 23:01:05 GMT -5
Why is it unfair? Mattel never made any promises to you when you bought UE Shawn. They never said they’d never rerelease that version. I think we all need to start realizing that Mattel doesn’t owe anything to us and we don’t owe anything to them. Have to disagree. We are Mattels customers. They count on us buying their products. They released an Ultimate line of figures for collectors, not kids. Unless you know many 6 year olds that want a Hbk figure from a match 25 years ago. As I said above I have no problem with them re-releasing the same exact figure, but it needs a different foot mark or small change to the box to show its made in 2022. I have no problem the way they did the Lost legends series. I have been collecting mattel since they got the wwe. They should listen to customer feedback on this A. Mattel doesn't make anything for collectors. They make products for people who'd be interested in buying them. They don't give a flying fish whether you're a collector, a 6 year old or Morton Downey Jr.
B. Mattel does not make their action figures so they become super rare and collectible and "Collectors" can sell "first editions" on ebay for stupid prices to other "Collectors". In fact, I'd venture to say Mattel is not to happy about scalpers making tons of money off their product.
C. If they don't make some "foot mark or small change to the box to show its made in 2022" then please, by all means, show Mattel you're upset by refusing to buy their products. Show them they can't count on you anymore.
Now before you accuse me of having a horse in this race, I don't. Whatever decision Mattel makes will be fine by me. Would I love to see some scalpers and price gougers screwed over? You're damn right I would. But I won't lose an ounce of sleep over a mark on a box or a foot. I just hate this entitled attitude of "Mattel better not do this one thing that'll upset me or they'll doom their wresting figure line". Mattel is going to do whatever Mattel has to do to make money and make their stockholders some money.
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Post by PJ on Feb 21, 2022 10:18:07 GMT -5
Sure Mattel needs us to buy the figures to keep the line going, but their customers are the retailers. That’s where Mattel makes their money. But if the retailers decide to stop carrying a line Mattel already made their money on it and will just move on to something else.
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Post by blacksuitspiderman09 on Feb 21, 2022 10:31:02 GMT -5
Man this thread really separated the collectors for Monterey value and actual passionate collectors. I have UE 6 rock if Mattel rereleased it tomorrow I wouldn’t bat an eye, I would be really happy the figure community.
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Post by jacobl18 on Feb 21, 2022 10:59:16 GMT -5
Man this thread really separated the collectors for Monterey value and actual passionate collectors. I have UE 6 rock if Mattel rereleased it tomorrow I wouldn’t bat an eye, I would be really happy the figure community. Again for the 100th time….No one is upset or against Mattel rereleasing figures. What myself and others want is for Mattel to slightly add something to the packaging to differentiate between the 2018 and 2022 figures. The people that missed out on this figure shouldn’t mind because they’re still going to get the exact same figure. The people that paid $200 for the 2018 figure will still have a figure that has value. It’s a win win. Honestly thou the new figures will probably have 2022 copyright on the bottom of the box and the original will have 2018 so that might suffice this issue. |
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