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Post by theheartburnkid on Feb 16, 2022 17:26:33 GMT -5
There’s no reserved list of figures. They didn’t sign a contract with anyone saying they couldn’t make something people already bought. Thing is they don’t stand to gain anything on a short produced run of figures people are spending 10x retail on. There was a time people were spending dumb money on Kevin Nash/Diesel because it was short packed and split 50/50. This was also when people were still on the fence about Mattel’s with Jakks collections already. There’s always gonna be a new fan/collector and it’s not these big companies interest to cater to hardcore collectors only. Tl:dr There’s plenty of stuff that is more valued to collect than wrestling figures. Most of these end up destroyed by kids and forgotten about in a couple years. Maybe in 25-30 years you can talk about value. Even Jakks that weren’t worth dirt are going for dumb prices right now. I love this comment. I also collect Magic cards, where there are cards on the reserved list that they will never print again. Reminds me of that. The only reserved list for Mattel now is just anyone who went to AEW. I say that AEW thing depends, Jake Roberts and Billy Gunn both got legends figures pretty recently
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Post by berealnicknaro on Feb 16, 2022 17:36:11 GMT -5
Personally I’m glad they are Re Releasing these two. I’ve got a loose HBK but I’d like a MOC one too. Same for Brock. I’ll buy two, one for loose, one for MOC I had Brock, bought him as ‘damaged packaging’ from RSC. Never got around to opening it, they shot up, so I sold it for over $100 But Mattel re releasing older figures in the exact same packaging is going to hurt themselves in the long run no matter what this forums here thinks, a lot of collectors / flippers / scalpers, whatever you want to call them, buy multiples of these things to save and flip. Those days will come to an end, if straight re releases become common Look at the prices when the following came out. And at least these packages were different E14 Bossman - Network Spotlight Bossman (I know this because I had one for sale, then NS was announced and it started going for maybe half of what it was going for) E19 Shawn - E44.5 Shawn E23 Undertaker - E44.5 Undertaker L2 Kamala - E44.5 Kamala SDCC Taker - DM Undertaker (2nd) The bottom dropped out on those figures and they differed at least in packaging. As I said, I welcome it, but I can also see it turning a lot of people off
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Post by hbkfan77 on Feb 16, 2022 21:13:18 GMT -5
It cracks me up reading this whole thread. Mattel is in the business of making the most money it can for the cheapest cost. If there is a demand for a certain figure, WHY would they spend time (which is money) and extra money retooling a figure or designing a new attire, when they can make more profit re-releasing the same fig? You guys gotta start thinking about this stuff from a business standpoint. Mattel doesn't give a crap about you having a rare piece in your collection that fetches $400 on eBay. They care about making money, and NEWS FLASH, that's every business. With inflation through the roof and consumer spending down, they're going for sure bets for the lowest cost. This checks all the boxes. I didn't say anything about new tooling. And, chances are they would make more off of figures with new attires than ones that already were made. They wouldn't make more $$$ with new attires because: These re-releases are going to FLY like you've never seen figures fly before. Changing or updating anything is needless and just costs incurred on their part and for what? Again, they're going to sell out immediately.
The entire point of them coming out again is because they weren't originally available at retail so they want to give people a shot at them. Easy decision. Hopefully it's not the last re-release they do.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Feb 16, 2022 22:02:32 GMT -5
There’s really no downside for Mattel doing this. Only for scalpers and flippers who bought multiple before they shot up. It’s a win win for everyone
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Post by The Dashing Nightmare on Feb 17, 2022 7:27:16 GMT -5
http://instagr.am/p/CZ2SosHqF9Q Anyone know if this is real life ? If so I paid way too much for my HBK I’m new to the figure community my son has played for years but really just started keeping some for my own this year and was drawn to the UE collection. Has Mattel done Re-releases before ? I know there are multi of the same figure in the same attire or close to it but I always assumed once it was gone it was gone in terms of the same figure packaging etc. Thanks i literally just paid $125 for brock . . . ill be so pissed it they rerelease it lol
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Post by taserface on Feb 17, 2022 7:53:17 GMT -5
There’s really no downside for Mattel doing this. Only for scalpers and flippers who bought multiple before they shot up. It’s a win win for everyone There’s no downside to putting Best of 2020 on the packaging However there is a downside to collectors losing faith in a company straight up rereleasing exactly the same stuff 2 years later. No matter what the majority of people on here pretend. Most of us do like the fact that a lot of these things hold a good amount of value, even if you’re idea going in is to not sell them
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2022 9:02:17 GMT -5
I hope they re-release every single “sought after” figure. Thus killing any and all value these have… and ultimately killing the re-selling appeal to these figures.
It’s not going to happen, but I still wish they would.
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Post by Lil hulkster on Feb 17, 2022 9:05:33 GMT -5
Go learn stocks or something, Mattel is not concerned if your Doll drops value because of a re-release, besides at the end of the day these action figures are for ages starting at 8+.
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Post by berealnicknaro on Feb 17, 2022 9:08:48 GMT -5
There’s really no downside for Mattel doing this. Only for scalpers and flippers who bought multiple before they shot up. It’s a win win for everyone There’s no downside to putting Best of 2020 on the packaging However there is a downside to collectors losing faith in a company straight up rereleasing exactly the same stuff 2 years later. No matter what the majority of people on here pretend. Most of us do like the fact that a lot of these things hold a good amount of value, even if you’re idea going in is to not sell them OR, and hear me out, it could gain faith from collectors knowing that if a few people wipe out the market of certain figures they’ll go back and reissue them. For collectors. For people who actually want the figure forever. Or maybe even, and this will sound crazy, for kids who might now be able to find them in stores.
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Post by stc13 on Feb 17, 2022 9:34:51 GMT -5
There’s no downside to putting Best of 2020 on the packaging However there is a downside to collectors losing faith in a company straight up rereleasing exactly the same stuff 2 years later. No matter what the majority of people on here pretend. Most of us do like the fact that a lot of these things hold a good amount of value, even if you’re idea going in is to not sell them OR, and hear me out, it could gain faith from collectors knowing that if a few people wipe out the market of certain figures they’ll go back and reissue them. For collectors. For people who actually want the figure forever. Or maybe even, and this will sound crazy, for kids who might now be able to find them in stores. This was such a unique situation - a wave that dropped right around the start of the pandemic, wasn't carried at any major brick and mortar retailer, and contained two major stars who shot up in price. While I don't think Mattel needs to continually offer re-releases - I prefer their approach to date of releasing the same character in a fresh attire, driving prices down for the old figure typically, but also giving collectors who have that figure something new to buy - this absolutely feels like the appropriate situation for it. I'm sure there are some people who are miffed. But I think it's a huge stretch to say that doing this makes collectors lose faith in a company. If anything, this gives me *more* faith that they are keep an eye on collector feedback and trying to keep the line as engaging as possible for both new and franchised collectors. Having engaged collectors leads to heavier collecting and more sales. You're a lot more likely to disenfranchise casual collectors when figures have limited runs, are in and out of stock in a flash, and getting that figure costs multiple times SRP on the secondary market. And I haven't seen anyone bring up that it sounds like this is something that retailers asked for. And if that's the case...what we think doesn't really matter. Mattel is going to satisfy their major retail partners above all else, and it's probably a big win for them to have that kind of interest.
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Post by plastictaxicab on Feb 17, 2022 9:45:16 GMT -5
Go learn stocks or something, Mattel is not concerned if your Doll drops value because of a re-release, besides at the end of the day these action figures are for ages starting at 8+. Lol I love when people attempt to insult when they say stuff like "dolls" or insinuate that what we collect is for kids. Like bro, you're part of this forum and actively posting. Gets me every time.
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Post by Bramahummel on Feb 17, 2022 9:49:27 GMT -5
Go learn stocks or something, Mattel is not concerned if your Doll drops value because of a re-release, besides at the end of the day these action figures are for ages starting at 8+. Lol I love when people attempt to insult when they say stuff like "dolls" or insinuate that what we collect is for kids. Like bro, you're part of this forum and actively posting. Gets me every time. So true 👍
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Feb 17, 2022 10:02:27 GMT -5
I honestly thought a cool way for Mattel to do Elite Series 100 would be to do a poll of every elite that they are still able to make, and the set is just whichever six are voted on the most. We could just have a set of the nWo RSE Macho Man, Akeem, Pink & Black Attack Bret, Legends 6 Eddie...whoever else would get voted on. They can be in special Elite packaging to make them different than their original boxes, too. I think it would be sure-fire way to make the set special and have people buying it up like crazy.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Feb 17, 2022 10:02:47 GMT -5
Go learn stocks or something, Mattel is not concerned if your Doll drops value because of a re-release, besides at the end of the day these action figures are for ages starting at 8+. Lol I love when people attempt to insult when they say stuff like "dolls" or insinuate that what we collect is for kids. Like bro, you're part of this forum and actively posting. Gets me every time. They are for kids. It’s cool we get some enjoyment out of them, but at the end of the day molded plastic of fake fighters doesn’t have any real value past our small niche community. Sure it’s a forum for such, but some people need to really “touch grass” or realize that having toy problems is first world problems and maybe be happy you can afford those type of problems before having a meltdown about parts used/distribution/rarity/scarcity of figures. There’s different types of collectors. Some apparently only feel good if their figures are worth a lot of monies and hard to find for other people. Then there’s normal people who are happy to have a toy they paid a fair amount for and aren’t bothered by someone else’s fortune. The people I can see mad mad are the ones who didn’t have patience/awareness/whatever and paid $200+ for a $10-20 piece of plastic that no one will care about in 30 years. Be like PJ. Buy it at retail/preorder, or move one with your life.
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Post by sandeep on Feb 17, 2022 10:27:11 GMT -5
Real Collectors don't cry on re issue
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Post by berealnicknaro on Feb 17, 2022 10:28:07 GMT -5
OR, and hear me out, it could gain faith from collectors knowing that if a few people wipe out the market of certain figures they’ll go back and reissue them. For collectors. For people who actually want the figure forever. Or maybe even, and this will sound crazy, for kids who might now be able to find them in stores. This was such a unique situation - a wave that dropped right around the start of the pandemic, wasn't carried at any major brick and mortar retailer, and contained two major stars who shot up in price. While I don't think Mattel needs to continually offer re-releases - I prefer their approach to date of releasing the same character in a fresh attire, driving prices down for the old figure typically, but also giving collectors who have that figure something new to buy - this absolutely feels like the appropriate situation for it. I'm sure there are some people who are miffed. But I think it's a huge stretch to say that doing this makes collectors lose faith in a company. If anything, this gives me *more* faith that they are keep an eye on collector feedback and trying to keep the line as engaging as possible for both new and franchised collectors. Having engaged collectors leads to heavier collecting and more sales. You're a lot more likely to disenfranchise casual collectors when figures have limited runs, are in and out of stock in a flash, and getting that figure costs multiple times SRP on the secondary market. And I haven't seen anyone bring up that it sounds like this is something that retailers asked for. And if that's the case...what we think doesn't really matter. Mattel is going to satisfy their major retail partners above all else, and it's probably a big win for them to have that kind of interest. In this case specifically, that HBK is in a highly iconic attire and was hard to get. It’s hard to just say “Well, get a different Shawn.” There’s not a reasonable stand it for it, and it *should* be easier to get. When it comes to much older figures, I wouldn’t want straight rereleases. However, I’d rather they redid similar iconic attires now that they have better scans, face print, and double jointed elbows.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Feb 17, 2022 10:56:22 GMT -5
There’s really no downside for Mattel doing this. Only for scalpers and flippers who bought multiple before they shot up. It’s a win win for everyone There’s no downside to putting Best of 2020 on the packaging However there is a downside to collectors losing faith in a company straight up rereleasing exactly the same stuff 2 years later. No matter what the majority of people on here pretend. Most of us do like the fact that a lot of these things hold a good amount of value, even if you’re idea going in is to not sell them still not a good downside
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Post by secondwhiteline on Feb 17, 2022 11:46:12 GMT -5
There’s really no downside for Mattel doing this. Only for scalpers and flippers who bought multiple before they shot up. It’s a win win for everyone There’s no downside to putting Best of 2020 on the packaging However there is a downside to collectors losing faith in a company straight up rereleasing exactly the same stuff 2 years later. No matter what the majority of people on here pretend. Most of us do like the fact that a lot of these things hold a good amount of value, even if you’re idea going in is to not sell them I see no downside, and am not opposed in the slightest to re-releases. Buy some gold from Jeff Jarrett if you're looking to invest. I hope that none of these figures retain after-market value so they can remain affordable for future collectors.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 17, 2022 12:14:18 GMT -5
I don't understand the mindset of certain people who actually don't want other people to be able to get the figures....like, how selfish and insane does a person have to be?
Like, some people are actually pissed that they have WWE ultimate Brock/HBK and now people that missed it are going to get another chance.....mind boggling.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Feb 17, 2022 12:22:56 GMT -5
I don't understand the mindset of certain people who actually don't want other people to be able to get the figures....like, how selfish and insane does a person have to be? Like, some people are actually pissed that they have WWE ultimate Brock/HBK and now people that missed it are going to get another chance.....mind boggling. They’re mad they paid/didn’t get to sell at 1000% markup. The others sleep better knowing they have the macguffin…
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