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Post by stc13 on Feb 12, 2022 21:32:13 GMT -5
Seems like the folks "complaining about complaining" are newer members. There have been a number of times where design issues have been addressed before the final product if there's enough noise from collectors. I don't see an issue with trying to bring it to Steve's attention and see if something can be changed. They can mold pink kneepads just as easily as black ones. Mattel will continue to make mistakes, and other issues are just bad design choices or changes to make budget. But that's no reason to not hold them to a high standard. Yep, complaining got them to make a fix for UE Kane, that you know they would have never done otherwise. The torso change on the HOC Ron Simmons is the big one that I think of.
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Post by Rob7274 on Feb 12, 2022 21:44:19 GMT -5
The new way these days is to accept what your given and don’t complain because the company’s don’t owe you anything….. 😒
Imo these are all legit concerns and it’s a forum where we discuss figures.
Personally I don’t like the Davey Boy headsculpt… didn’t like it on the previous Bulldog either it looks a lot more like his son than him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 21:56:06 GMT -5
Seems like the folks "complaining about complaining" are newer members. There have been a number of times where design issues have been addressed before the final product if there's enough noise from collectors. I don't see an issue with trying to bring it to Steve's attention and see if something can be changed. They can mold pink kneepads just as easily as black ones. Mattel will continue to make mistakes, and other issues are just bad design choices or changes to make budget. But that's no reason to not hold them to a high standard. New member or 45 yr member. If you have to look up said attire to compare just to nit pick, then you might as well change hobby’s. You know switching knee pads is the easiest thing you could do to a figure.
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Post by CM Tusk on Feb 12, 2022 22:21:33 GMT -5
Seems like the folks "complaining about complaining" are newer members. There have been a number of times where design issues have been addressed before the final product if there's enough noise from collectors. I don't see an issue with trying to bring it to Steve's attention and see if something can be changed. They can mold pink kneepads just as easily as black ones. Mattel will continue to make mistakes, and other issues are just bad design choices or changes to make budget. But that's no reason to not hold them to a high standard. New member or 45 yr member. If you have to look up said attire to compare just to nit pick, then you might as well change hobby’s. You know switching knee pads is the easiest thing you could do to a figure. Not that it matters as much to me but some people care about the figures looking how they should and some people collect moc so switching knee pads isn’t so easy.
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 12, 2022 22:32:25 GMT -5
Seems like the folks "complaining about complaining" are newer members. There have been a number of times where design issues have been addressed before the final product if there's enough noise from collectors. I don't see an issue with trying to bring it to Steve's attention and see if something can be changed. They can mold pink kneepads just as easily as black ones. Mattel will continue to make mistakes, and other issues are just bad design choices or changes to make budget. But that's no reason to not hold them to a high standard. Sometimes I miss the old guard.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 22:33:54 GMT -5
New member or 45 yr member. If you have to look up said attire to compare just to nit pick, then you might as well change hobby’s. You know switching knee pads is the easiest thing you could do to a figure. Not that it matters as much to me but some people care about the figures looking how they should and some people collect moc so switching knee pads isn’t so easy. Trust me, I want the ones I buy 100% accurate, but we already know that won’t happen, so complaining about it every time a new figure comes out isn’t gonna change anything. And like I said before, if people wouldn’t google images of said figure and compare attires, you would never even notice what’s messed up.
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Post by berealnicknaro on Feb 12, 2022 22:42:41 GMT -5
Not that it matters as much to me but some people care about the figures looking how they should and some people collect moc so switching knee pads isn’t so easy. Trust me, I want the ones I buy 100% accurate, but we already know that won’t happen, so complaining about it every time a new figure comes out isn’t gonna change anything. And like I said before, if people wouldn’t google images of said figure and compare attires, you would never even notice what’s messed up. This is one of the most ridiculous arguments I’ve seen regarding toys. These are based on real life attires that the Mattel team chose to recreate. Why *shouldn’t* they be exact? They had to look at them in order to design them. “Just don’t look up what they’re supposed to look like and it’s fine.” WTF? That’s ridiculous. Bret’s knee pads always matched his lower tights when he became a singles wrestler. It’s noticeable.
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Post by PJ on Feb 12, 2022 22:44:29 GMT -5
I am going to ask this. Just because Bulldog is from SummerSlam ‘92 are we sure Bret is supposed to be a matching SummerSlam ‘92 figure? Bret wore the attire more that once and while I don’t recall him wearing knee pads that didn’t match the tights during his singles run. He did it quite often when he was in the original Hart Foundation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 22:48:11 GMT -5
Trust me, I want the ones I buy 100% accurate, but we already know that won’t happen, so complaining about it every time a new figure comes out isn’t gonna change anything. And like I said before, if people wouldn’t google images of said figure and compare attires, you would never even notice what’s messed up. This is one of the most ridiculous arguments I’ve seen regarding toys. These are based on real life attires that the Mattel team chose to recreate. Why *shouldn’t* they be exact? They had to look at them in order to design them. “Just don’t look up what they’re supposed to look like and it’s fine.” WTF? That’s ridiculous. Bret’s knee pads always matched his lower tights when he became a singles wrestler. It’s noticeable. You obviously read and don’t understand what I was saying. So let me dumb it down for you. The figures Mattel puts out, you can’t tell me there’s people on this forum who knows exactly from a boot string color to knee pad color these wrestlers had that the figure is based upon without having to google the images and comparing it to a figure. Now, moving to what you thought I said, yes, Mattel should definitely learn how to use google images to fix the problem with getting accuracy .
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Post by fzmadness on Feb 12, 2022 23:06:26 GMT -5
This is one of the most ridiculous arguments I’ve seen regarding toys. These are based on real life attires that the Mattel team chose to recreate. Why *shouldn’t* they be exact? They had to look at them in order to design them. “Just don’t look up what they’re supposed to look like and it’s fine.” WTF? That’s ridiculous. Bret’s knee pads always matched his lower tights when he became a singles wrestler. It’s noticeable. You obviously read and don’t understand what I was saying. So let me dumb it down for you. The figures Mattel puts out, you can’t tell me there’s people on this forum who knows exactly from a boot string color to knee pad color these wrestlers had that the figure is based upon without having to google the images and comparing it to a figure. Now, moving to what you thought I said, yes, Mattel should definitely learn how to use google images to fix the problem with getting accuracy . I pretty much never complain about attire or something being off but if some dude can pick out what’s not accurate with a figure why can’t the people making them and earning a living doing so come with accuracy from the source material? With that said I’ll buy both of them and be happy about it lol
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Post by MKSavage on Feb 12, 2022 23:13:34 GMT -5
Looks like AFA has answered this to a degree, he seems to believe that Bret's kneepads and Bulldogs wristbands should be corrected on the final figures. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/post/9233294
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Post by berealnicknaro on Feb 13, 2022 0:10:22 GMT -5
This is one of the most ridiculous arguments I’ve seen regarding toys. These are based on real life attires that the Mattel team chose to recreate. Why *shouldn’t* they be exact? They had to look at them in order to design them. “Just don’t look up what they’re supposed to look like and it’s fine.” WTF? That’s ridiculous. Bret’s knee pads always matched his lower tights when he became a singles wrestler. It’s noticeable. You obviously read and don’t understand what I was saying. So let me dumb it down for you. The figures Mattel puts out, you can’t tell me there’s people on this forum who knows exactly from a boot string color to knee pad color these wrestlers had that the figure is based upon without having to google the images and comparing it to a figure. Now, moving to what you thought I said, yes, Mattel should definitely learn how to use google images to fix the problem with getting accuracy . I don’t need it dumbed down, my dude. I know exactly what you were saying. There are tons of people who recognize when attires are inaccurate without looking it up, but even so, the Internet exists. We can see the exact same pictures the Mattel designers used to make the figures in the first place, so they should be correct.
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Post by SteveHulk on Feb 13, 2022 0:27:08 GMT -5
I hate to be that guy but I’ve been waiting for these figures ever since Mattel got the WWE license and they’re so close to being perfect but there are a number of glaring issues that I want to show here just in case there is any chance of some running changes. Action Figure Attack 1. Bret should have pink knee pads not black. 2. Bulldog should have a red and white split band around his waist not just a white band. 3. The Union Jack is incorrect on Bulldogs tights. The red diagonal bands should be offset. The basic version of this figure was correct. 4. Bulldogs wrist bands are wrong. It was red on the outside and blue on the inside. 5. Bret looks like he has another painted skin torso. I hope that’s not the case because it really ruins his figures. His old elite were far superior in execution. Let’s hope for moulded skin for these two. What about the huge/white BULL DOG missing on the Union Jack? That's a pretty big oversight. (...and if we're nitpicking, then the beads in his hair should be red white and blue - not all white... 😉)
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Post by ztj_wwf on Feb 13, 2022 0:31:06 GMT -5
I don't understand why people get upset for some of us pointing out inaccuracies...I got crap on Instagram for pointing out that Luger's wrist tape should be black and that Hogan's torsos should be thicker. These aren't things I had to Google...I just know from being a long time fan. I do look up matches and photos after the fact to make sure I'm not wrong, but it's not a "let's look up pictures in order to find something to complain about." I get that some people aren't perfectionists and don't care about these little details, but don't criticize others for thinking differently.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2022 0:32:01 GMT -5
I hate to be that guy but I’ve been waiting for these figures ever since Mattel got the WWE license and they’re so close to being perfect but there are a number of glaring issues that I want to show here just in case there is any chance of some running changes. Action Figure Attack 1. Bret should have pink knee pads not black. 2. Bulldog should have a red and white split band around his waist not just a white band. 3. The Union Jack is incorrect on Bulldogs tights. The red diagonal bands should be offset. The basic version of this figure was correct. 4. Bulldogs wrist bands are wrong. It was red on the outside and blue on the inside. 5. Bret looks like he has another painted skin torso. I hope that’s not the case because it really ruins his figures. His old elite were far superior in execution. Let’s hope for moulded skin for these two. What about the huge/white BULL DOG missing on the Union Jack? That's a pretty big oversight. (...and if we're nitpicking, then the beads in his hair should be red white and blue - not all white... 😉) All I can say is don’t buy it. Makes it easier to find for the ones who actually want it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2022 0:34:28 GMT -5
I don't understand why people get upset for some of us pointing out innacurracies...I got crap on Instagram for pointing out that Luger's wrist tape should be black and that Hogan's torsos should be thicker. These aren't things I had to Google...I just know from being a long time fan. I do look up matches and photos after the fact to make sure I'm not wrong, but it's not a "let's look up pictures in order to pick these figures apart." I get that some people aren't perfectionists and don't care about these little details, but don't criticize others for thinking differently. Because we have 15 threads and 1000s of post EVERYTIME a new figure is released and it’s never done any good, it’s just like everytime you do a QnA it’s the same questions as in “will we ever get this or that guy” knowing what the answer is going to be. As much inaccuracies we’ve had for the past 15 years or whatever it is, and this inaccuracies has gotten worse , it’s not ever going to be fixed.
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Post by theheartburnkid on Feb 13, 2022 0:42:28 GMT -5
I hate to be that guy but I’ve been waiting for these figures ever since Mattel got the WWE license and they’re so close to being perfect but there are a number of glaring issues that I want to show here just in case there is any chance of some running changes. Action Figure Attack 1. Bret should have pink knee pads not black. 2. Bulldog should have a red and white split band around his waist not just a white band. 3. The Union Jack is incorrect on Bulldogs tights. The red diagonal bands should be offset. The basic version of this figure was correct. 4. Bulldogs wrist bands are wrong. It was red on the outside and blue on the inside. 5. Bret looks like he has another painted skin torso. I hope that’s not the case because it really ruins his figures. His old elite were far superior in execution. Let’s hope for moulded skin for these two. What about the huge/white BULL DOG missing on the Union Jack? That's a pretty big oversight. (...and if we're nitpicking, then the beads in his hair should be red white and blue - not all white... 😉) About BULL DOG text it’s on the back, at least the pictures that Mattel put on wwe.com show it that way. You can just flip the flag over and boom problem solved ibb.co/wWSHMgc
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Feb 13, 2022 0:42:57 GMT -5
Bret Hart’s hair line receding almost as badly as the ticket sales when he was on top. 4/10.
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Post by SteveHulk on Feb 13, 2022 0:52:54 GMT -5
All I can say is don’t buy it. Makes it easier to find for the ones who actually want it. Lol... my comment was said with tongue firmly in cheek. I love the figure... heck I've wanted an Elite SummerSlam '92 Bulldog ever since the line started(!).
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Post by ztj_wwf on Feb 13, 2022 0:55:28 GMT -5
I don't understand why people get upset for some of us pointing out innacurracies...I got crap on Instagram for pointing out that Luger's wrist tape should be black and that Hogan's torsos should be thicker. These aren't things I had to Google...I just know from being a long time fan. I do look up matches and photos after the fact to make sure I'm not wrong, but it's not a "let's look up pictures in order to pick these figures apart." I get that some people aren't perfectionists and don't care about these little details, but don't criticize others for thinking differently. Because we have 15 threads and 1000s of post EVERYTIME a new figure is released and it’s never done any good, it’s just like everytime you do a QnA it’s the same questions as in “will we ever get this or that guy” knowing what the answer is going to be. As much inaccuracies we’ve had for the past 15 years or whatever it is, and this inaccuracies has gotten worse , it’s not ever going to be fixed. Except there have been numerous running changes by Mattel, often made specifically because people have pointed out a certain inaccuracy.
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