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Post by Artie Kendall on Jul 13, 2022 8:44:13 GMT -5
I'm still thinking a little less than half of the New Gen sets were actually backed to be flipped. Those people want to see what kind of return they'll get before backing anything else. So it's definitely worth it to Mattel to hold off on announcing the next one until the New Gen sets are out.
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Post by aglassbottlecocacola on Jul 13, 2022 16:10:49 GMT -5
Well looks like we won’t find out at SDCC which is fine for me. nope. too bad. was hoping to find out what it was. I am assuming they want to make sure the new gen is delivered and people are happy before getting into the next one. Smart decision. Agreed. |
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Jul 13, 2022 17:22:51 GMT -5
I really hope it's just figures/accessories and not a giant set piece. They said they don’t need to crowdfund figures. The point of these is to go all out on and make huge play sets or stages that they couldn’t sell in retail |
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Post by captncharisma19 on Jul 13, 2022 17:37:51 GMT -5
I really hope it's just figures/accessories and not a giant set piece. They said they don’t need to crowdfund figures. The point of these is to go all out on and make huge play sets or stages that they couldn’t sell in retail who is "they"? Where did "they" say this? Where "they" mistaken since we just got a Retros 4 pack? |
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Jul 13, 2022 17:54:44 GMT -5
They said they don’t need to crowdfund figures. The point of these is to go all out on and make huge play sets or stages that they couldn’t sell in retail who is "they"? Where did "they" say this? Where "they" mistaken since we just got a Retros 4 pack? Steve said in the ask Steve thread. I can’t remember the page #. And I’m talking regular elite style figures or ultimates. |
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Post by WrestlingFigWig on Jul 13, 2022 18:10:20 GMT -5
who is "they"? Where did "they" say this? Where "they" mistaken since we just got a Retros 4 pack? Steve said in the ask Steve thread. I can’t remember the page #. And I’m talking regular elite style figures or ultimates. Yup. Steve and Bill commented on this months ago. They said there's no need to crowdfund figures. They would just make them and put them in the Elite or Ultimate line. They're using the crowdfunding for things retailers wouldn't carry or larger items that would be otherwise impossible to get out. |
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Post by aglassbottlecocacola on Jul 13, 2022 18:15:45 GMT -5
Steve said in the ask Steve thread. I can’t remember the page #. And I’m talking regular elite style figures or ultimates. Yup. Steve and Bill commented on this months ago. They said there's no need to crowdfund figures. They would just make them and put them in the Elite or Ultimate line. They're using the crowdfunding for things retailers wouldn't carry or larger items that would be otherwise impossible to get out. But, for many backers, it was the figures that were the biggest selling point. It would have been interesting to see if the project would have been funded without Macho Man. |
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Post by movingforward1988 on Jul 14, 2022 0:45:54 GMT -5
I think crowd fundings are going to have to be something big. I mean the next 3-4 projects are almost no brainers. Hell in a cell, elimination chamber, smack down fist, and some version of raw stage. All 4 of these come with so many options for ultimates that would sale. And I think getting backers wouldn't be as hard as the new gen. I wish they would have actually let us vote on the next project or the one after that. But we just have to see what's next
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Jul 14, 2022 0:47:35 GMT -5
I think crowd fundings are going to have to be something big. I mean the next 3-4 projects are almost no brainers. Hell in a cell, elimination chamber, smack down fist, and some version of raw stage. All 4 of these come with so many options for ultimates that would sale. And I think getting backers wouldn't be as hard as the new gen. I wish they would have actually let us vote on the next project or the one after that. But we just have to see what's next God no, don’t let people vote. We’ve seen the choices those polls render. And anyways, 85% of those “votes” will be people who wouldn’t fork the money over anyways when he time came. |
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Post by jacobl18 on Jul 14, 2022 1:27:38 GMT -5
They should crowd fund figures of wrestlers that aren’t under a legends deal. Jeff Jarrett for whatever reason works for WWE but isn’t under a license deal. Have Mattel work directly with Jeff and add the cost into the crowdfunding of an ultimate Edition figure.
For example charge $40 for an ultimate of him with light up glasses and coat with a guitar. If it gets 10,000 backers then Jeff will get $5 for every figure sold. Something like that.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 14, 2022 1:55:12 GMT -5
They should crowd fund figures of wrestlers that aren’t under a legends deal. Jeff Jarrett for whatever reason works for WWE but isn’t under a license deal. Have Mattel work directly with Jeff and add the cost into the crowdfunding of an ultimate Edition figure. For example charge $40 for an ultimate of him with light up glasses and coat with a guitar. If it gets 10,000 backers then Jeff will get $5 for every figure sold. Something like that. |
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Post by LK3 on Jul 14, 2022 2:13:18 GMT -5
If they were able to do that y'all would probably be sick of Jeff Jarrett figures by now.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 14, 2022 3:52:00 GMT -5
Yup. Steve and Bill commented on this months ago. They said there's no need to crowdfund figures. They would just make them and put them in the Elite or Ultimate line. They're using the crowdfunding for things retailers wouldn't carry or larger items that would be otherwise impossible to get out. But, for many backers, it was the figures that were the biggest selling point. It would have been interesting to see if the project would have been funded without Macho Man. Yeah... there's no doubt it was the figures - and Macho in particular - that sold this set. I (and no doubt many others) only bought it because of the figures... I'll probably end up selling the ring and entrance thing. I'd much rather have figure sets over rings/playsets etc. |
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Post by stc13 on Jul 14, 2022 8:45:58 GMT -5
But, for many backers, it was the figures that were the biggest selling point. It would have been interesting to see if the project would have been funded without Macho Man. Yeah... there's no doubt it was the figures - and Macho in particular - that sold this set. I (and no doubt many others) only bought it because of the figures... I'll probably end up selling the ring and entrance thing. I'd much rather have figure sets over rings/playsets etc. I don't think it's that cut and dry, but I do think without Macho and with a Haslab style rollout, the project either falls short or just clears the 5k mark, but no stretch goals. The rollout was a hot mess, and they turned away a lot of buyers trying to collect payment up front. There was no incentive to back the project early and leave money tied up even longer, so initial numbers were terrible. That made the project look like a loser that wouldn't get funded, only further making people think they shouldn't back it and have their money be tied up. It was a catch 22. They modified the payment process AND added Macho, giving people an incentive to back the project early on if they were interested. Compare that to how Hasbro is handling their current HISS Tank crowdfund - the early bird figure is available to everyone as long as it hit X orders by Y date and payment is collected at the end of the project. It blew by the early bird goal and all the stretch goals in a matter of days. I think what Macho did show is that collectors want premium figures of key characters, and they value number of figures figures in the core offering. The Doink figure was great, but was a stretch goal. And a Diesel UE that we've essentially gotten multiple times over as an Elite didn't move the needle. Hopefully they take notes for future projects and there's more emphasis on number of figures, desirable names/looks, mixed in with some deep cuts and fan service type items. |
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Jul 14, 2022 9:52:03 GMT -5
It has to be that Attitude Era entrance they showed off before.
The question is, which wrestler to add to the set? 🤔
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Post by ddt4thee on Jul 14, 2022 11:03:56 GMT -5
It has to be that Attitude Era entrance they showed off before. The question is, which wrestler to add to the set? 🤔 That was a great setup, but I hope if they do crowdfund it they actually make it in scale. It was a little too small. I'd love some Headbangers figures with it or some other FTITL tag team, but who knows if it's possible. Maybe an Attitude era Vince or Commissioner Slaughter too. |
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Jul 14, 2022 11:43:40 GMT -5
It has to be that Attitude Era entrance they showed off before. The question is, which wrestler to add to the set? 🤔 That was a great setup, but I hope if they do crowdfund it they actually make it in scale. It was a little too small. I'd love some Headbangers figures with it or some other FTITL tag team, but who knows if it's possible. Maybe an Attitude era Vince or Commissioner Slaughter too. Ultimate mankind and Zamboni with ultimate Austin |
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Post by burtgummer on Jul 14, 2022 11:47:10 GMT -5
It has to be that Attitude Era entrance they showed off before. The question is, which wrestler to add to the set? 🤔 Headbangers Al Snow LOD The Godwinns Gangrel |
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Post by jacobl18 on Jul 14, 2022 11:55:50 GMT -5
They should crowd fund figures of wrestlers that aren’t under a legends deal. Jeff Jarrett for whatever reason works for WWE but isn’t under a license deal. Have Mattel work directly with Jeff and add the cost into the crowdfunding of an ultimate Edition figure. For example charge $40 for an ultimate of him with light up glasses and coat with a guitar. If it gets 10,000 backers then Jeff will get $5 for every figure sold. Something like that. There’s no reason why it couldn’t. WWE is paid a flat fee for allowing Mattel to use there license. Mattel is adding the talent fee onto the price of the crowd fund….So Mattel isn’t paying extra out of pocket. Jeff Jarrett is getting extra money for doing nothing and isn’t beholden to a legends deal. All parties win. |
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 14, 2022 12:17:57 GMT -5
There’s no reason why it couldn’t. WWE is paid a flat fee for allowing Mattel to use there license. Mattel is adding the talent fee onto the price of the crowd fund….So Mattel isn’t paying extra out of pocket. Jeff Jarrett is getting extra money for doing nothing and isn’t beholden to a legends deal. All parties win. WWE as the licenser dictate who they will allow to have figures made and in most cases what looks they will sign off on. If they wanted a Jarrett figure out there with their logo on it, in a look that he wore on their product, they would get him under a Legends deal. It’s just part of the contract. Mattel isn’t going to go against the contract just to add someone new to the line. Regardless of how it’s funded. |
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