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Post by crush on Mar 5, 2024 11:06:55 GMT -5
I don't understand why people are drawing a correlation between the Stark thing and the exclusive. Her being part of a wave "this summer" would be in-line timing-wise with her big push last year, don't see why anyone would a draw a link to the RSC exclusive.
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Post by CMW Toys on Mar 5, 2024 11:09:12 GMT -5
He's also at a notoriety level where he doesn't really need them as a platform for his own merchandise and licensing deals. WWE wouldn't be a bad deal for him but it seems pretty unnecessary, especially when he can just keep partnering with AEW post-retirement.True, but it doesn't seem that AEW can offer as many merchandise items for his entire career that WWE can. Could be interesting to see if he can continue working with AEW, maybe as an agent or producer backstage, but sign a merchandise deal with WWE like others have. The strange thing is sting owns his own likeness, he could realistically do Surfer Sting merch (like seen on a recent tee or microbrawler) but it just seems Jazwares won't |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2024 11:12:06 GMT -5
I don't understand why people are drawing a correlation between the Stark thing and the exclusive. Her being part of a wave "this summer" would be in-line timing-wise with her big push last year, don't see why anyone would a draw a link to the RSC exclusive. … only one person is… |
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Post by CMW Toys on Mar 5, 2024 11:13:41 GMT -5
Also, don't forget Jakks managed to do Surfer Sting looks with their TNA line so there is loopholes right?
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 5, 2024 11:15:53 GMT -5
That would probably be a new contender for worst selling RSC Exclusive if true. Probably not worse than Shield Kurt, but worse than the ECW Matt Hardy and Brian Kendrick. It would be worse than Kurt. She's done nothing significant AT ALL to be an exclusive lol To be fair, I had the feelings towards the Brian Kendrick exclusive which to this day I am baffled as to why it wasn't a flashback The Brian Kendrick. The only reason I could see it selling more than Kurt is that it's a women's figure which means both simps and the people who collect women's figures exclusively would be buying it. There was no reason for anyone to buy a Roman Reigns figure with a Kurt head. |
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Post by coldblooded on Mar 5, 2024 11:18:57 GMT -5
Also, don't forget Jakks managed to do Surfer Sting looks with their TNA line so there is loopholes right? There's always loopholes. Jazzwares can totally do a black and pink singlet Owen Hart without logos for example. The singlet itself isn't copywrited, the logos are. Martha would prolly be the one to block it though. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2024 11:19:56 GMT -5
Also, don't forget Jakks managed to do Surfer Sting looks with their TNA line so there is loopholes right? Sting was signed to TNA at that time. |
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 5, 2024 11:20:10 GMT -5
Also, don't forget Jakks managed to do Surfer Sting looks with their TNA line so there is loopholes right? That's because TNA had a relationship with the NWA and licensed the logo and looks off them. Tony Khan hates Billy Corgan/NWA (and I'm sure the feeling is mutual) and TNA hates Tony Khan (granted that may have changed with the exit of D'amore but I doubt it), so those aren't options. They'd have to use one of the gears he wore while appearing as part of NJPW and even that may not be possible depending on who owns the rights to the footage. |
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Post by CMW Toys on Mar 5, 2024 11:21:28 GMT -5
Also, don't forget Jakks managed to do Surfer Sting looks with their TNA line so there is loopholes right? There's always loopholes. Jazzwares can totally do a black and pink singlet Owen Hart without logos for example. The singlet itself isn't copywrited, the logos are. Martha would prolly be the one to block it though. Of course there is. I feel alot of it is Jazwares holding out. Give me a NJPW red white and blue Sting supreme Ringside! |
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Post by CMW Toys on Mar 5, 2024 11:22:15 GMT -5
Also, don't forget Jakks managed to do Surfer Sting looks with their TNA line so there is loopholes right? That's because TNA had a relationship with the NWA and licensed the logo and looks off them. Tony Khan hates Billy Corgan/NWA and TNA hates Tony Khan (granted that may have changed with the exit of D'amore but I doubt it), so those aren't options. They'd have to use one of the gears he wore while appearing in NJPW and even that may not be possible depending on who owns the rights to the footage. I may be wrong on this, but I thought the blue and orange look was NJPW? |
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Post by CMW Toys on Mar 5, 2024 11:23:40 GMT -5
Also, don't forget Jakks managed to do Surfer Sting looks with their TNA line so there is loopholes right? That's because TNA had a relationship with the NWA and licensed the logo and looks off them. Tony Khan hates Billy Corgan/NWA and TNA hates Tony Khan (granted that may have changed with the exit of D'amore but I doubt it), so those aren't options. They'd have to use one of the gears he wore while appearing in NJPW and even that may not be possible depending on who owns the rights to the footage. Sorry for the double post And the Deluxe Ringside exclusive was from the NJPW super show where he fought Muta |
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 5, 2024 11:23:48 GMT -5
Also, don't forget Jakks managed to do Surfer Sting looks with their TNA line so there is loopholes right? There's always loopholes. Jazzwares can totally do a black and pink singlet Owen Hart without logos for example. The singlet itself isn't copywrited, the logos are. Martha would prolly be the one to block it though. If the Legends of Wrestling games can make decent copies of Owen's other gears then Jazwares could too. I just think they wanted to cash on in the cheapest and least desirable option first. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2024 11:24:27 GMT -5
Doesn’t Steve Borden own the likeness/rights of Sting?
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 5, 2024 11:24:38 GMT -5
That's because TNA had a relationship with the NWA and licensed the logo and looks off them. Tony Khan hates Billy Corgan/NWA and TNA hates Tony Khan (granted that may have changed with the exit of D'amore but I doubt it), so those aren't options. They'd have to use one of the gears he wore while appearing in NJPW and even that may not be possible depending on who owns the rights to the footage. Sorry for the double post And the Deluxe Ringside exclusive was from the NJPW super show where he fought Muta And who did Sting work for when that match happened? The NWA, which TNA had a relationship with. Infact that match was literally for the NWA TV title lmao. |
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Post by CMW Toys on Mar 5, 2024 11:28:09 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post And the Deluxe Ringside exclusive was from the NJPW super show where he fought Muta And who did Sting work for when that match happened? The NWA, which TNA had a relationship with. Infact that match was literally for the NWA TV title lmao. I'm sorry, this isn't me trying to be ignorant but are you meaning NWA owned the rights to that NJPW match or something? |
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 5, 2024 11:29:31 GMT -5
Doesn’t Steve Borden own the likeness/rights of Sting? That just means other people can't make Sting merch without his consent. That doesn't mean he can let people make looks from other companies. |
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 5, 2024 11:32:32 GMT -5
And who did Sting work for when that match happened? The NWA, which TNA had a relationship with. Infact that match was literally for the NWA TV title lmao. I'm sorry, this isn't me trying to be ignorant but are you meaning NWA owned the rights to that NJPW match or something? The NWA owns the rights to that look, he was contracted to the NWA for that appearance and was representing the NWA on the show. So TNA licensed the look from the NWA and then probably had to get premission from NJPW before to use it and then licensed NJPW logo for the box since it was from a NJPW match. The footage rights is a whole different thing. That's if Sting had a match as part of a contract he had with NJPW and not representing NWA/WCW, but some how WCW (WWE) owned the footage, they still couldn't use it without risking a lawsuit. |
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Post by crush on Mar 5, 2024 11:33:15 GMT -5
Doesn’t Steve Borden own the likeness/rights of Sting? I believe the issue isn't with lioness rights per se. Like Sting can appear as Sting anywhere and everywhere he wants as Sting in the Sting makeup and etc. But if Jazwares were to release a figure of Sting in a look he only wore in WWE (or in footage owned by WWE) WWE could claim that Jazwares is trying to cash in on their intellectual property. Whether WWE could win that case, I don't know. But it seems like something JW has decided to avoid even the possibility of. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2024 11:35:55 GMT -5
Ah , I thought it was the same deal as Hogan. Gotcha.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 5, 2024 11:50:57 GMT -5
Doesn’t Steve Borden own the likeness/rights of Sting? I believe the issue isn't with lioness rights per se. Like Sting can appear as Sting anywhere and everywhere he wants as Sting in the Sting makeup and etc. But if Jazwares were to release a figure of Sting in a look he only wore in WWE (or in footage owned by WWE) WWE could claim that Jazwares is trying to cash in on their intellectual property. Whether WWE could win that case, I don't know. But it seems like something JW has decided to avoid even the possibility of. It's not even a matter of if the case is winnable. It's a matter of if Jazwares/AEW wanna risk an expensive drawn out court battle over a toy they'd make little money if not lose money on even if they won. If they thought the case was winnable and they'd make hand over fist money from it they'd have done it already. |
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