TheXtremisT
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Post by TheXtremisT on Apr 24, 2023 10:59:20 GMT -5
TNA (until Dixie sold it) was every bit as good as ECW.
Basically TNA gets mostly s*** on because of Russo and some bad storytelling/matches/decisions. But ECW gets a pass because of Heyman and nostalgia.
ECW was every bit as bad as TNA.
And looking back, TNA had a lot of great talent, matches and entertainment. In 2007-2010, it was easily better than WWE 2012-2014.
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Post by tmnt316 on Apr 24, 2023 11:38:42 GMT -5
TNA (until Dixie sold it) was every bit as good as ECW. Basically TNA gets mostly s*** on because of Russo and some bad storytelling/matches/decisions. But ECW gets a pass because of Heyman and nostalgia. ECW was every bit as bad as TNA. And looking back, TNA had a lot of great talent, matches and entertainment. In 2007-2010, it was easily better than WWE 2012-2014. I loved TNA until Hogan/Bischoff showed but haven't kept up with it since around fall of 2017. |
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Post by Path 2 Glory on Apr 24, 2023 16:24:30 GMT -5
"___ is All Elite" is just 2023's "what's ___ doing in the impact zone"
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TheXtremisT
Main Eventer
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Joined on: May 3, 2008 8:03:15 GMT -5
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Post by TheXtremisT on Apr 25, 2023 4:53:45 GMT -5
TNA (until Dixie sold it) was every bit as good as ECW. Basically TNA gets mostly s*** on because of Russo and some bad storytelling/matches/decisions. But ECW gets a pass because of Heyman and nostalgia. ECW was every bit as bad as TNA. And looking back, TNA had a lot of great talent, matches and entertainment. In 2007-2010, it was easily better than WWE 2012-2014. I loved TNA until Hogan/Bischoff showed but haven't kept up with it since around fall of 2017. I'm similar. I was plugged into TNA until mid-2014 after so many of the originals left. Even Jeff Hardy (one of my absolute favourites) couldn't keep me watching. I watched the Hogan-Bischoff era and enjoyed most of it at the time, but looking back I realise how bad that was and how good the 2009 going back to 2003 actually was. Bad angles and moments included. Far better than 2010-2014. |
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Apr 25, 2023 8:50:11 GMT -5
- DX 2006 was better than every other DX run.
- WrestleMania 17 is overrated.
- CM Punk is one of the greatest of all time.
- Damian Priest is the best member of Judgment Day.
- Grayson Waller will Main Event WrestleMania within the next 5 years.
- Odyssey Jones has Main Event potential.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Apr 25, 2023 16:00:07 GMT -5
TNA (until Dixie sold it) was every bit as good as ECW. Basically TNA gets mostly s*** on because of Russo and some bad storytelling/matches/decisions. But ECW gets a pass because of Heyman and nostalgia. ECW was every bit as bad as TNA. And looking back, TNA had a lot of great talent, matches and entertainment. In 2007-2010, it was easily better than WWE 2012-2014. Many was saying that TNA was better than WWE during 2007-2010 |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Apr 25, 2023 16:43:32 GMT -5
-WrestleMania 17 is overrated. - CM Punk is one of the greatest of all time. I wanna fight you for one of these takes & shake your hand for the other. And it's not the ones people might think. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Apr 25, 2023 16:54:52 GMT -5
-WrestleMania 17 is overrated. - CM Punk is one of the greatest of all time. I wanna fight you for one of these takes & shake your hand for the other. And it's not the ones people might think. WM17 is the greatest & Punk is one of the best for me lol |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Apr 25, 2023 18:28:22 GMT -5
I wanna fight you for one of these takes & shake your hand for the other. And it's not the ones people might think. WM17 is the greatest & Punk is one of the best for me lol Yup. I actually think WM X7 is underrated in some respects. WWE have never done a big, lights, camera, action documentary on it like they've done with tons of other things. Anytime a good pay per view happens, it should be judged based on an X7 scale. As in, how did this compare to Wrestlemania 17? And it's not just a match quality thing. In saying that, X7 had 2 five star bouts (universally agreed by fans, not talking about Meltzer). But much of the show's greatness is in many ways down to what the event symbolized. The final send-off to the Attitude Era, the end of wrestling's boom period. The last night wrestling was mainstream. Never before, never again. It was one big, massive, balls to the wall, all out magnum opus ride off into the sunset farwell. It felt like it could have been the last wrestling show ever produced. And that would have been okay. Wrestling's finale. You can't kill people off in wrestling per say but Austin joining McMahon was essentially wrestling's biggest ever box office draw & star being killed off. "Oh but we don't want to see Austin heel." Exactly! That's why the show had such an air of definitiveness to it. It's like Tony dying in the final episode of the Sopranos. Darth Vader passing away in Return of the Jedi. Point being, you would never have needed to watch another minute of wrestling that aired after Mania 17 based on how that show played out & finished. It was poetically perfect: Vince gets his commeuppance, the anti-Atittude Era faction the RTC are banished once & for all, Edge & Christian conquer the TLC match & the tag division, Attitude Era favorites Kane & Jericho leave with gold, Triple H & Stephanie are overcome, Taker rides off into the night, Rock goes to Hollywood, wrestling's greatest rivals join forces. Is it any wonder how bad WWF sucked afterward? No show has overtaken Wrestlemania 17 since & no show ever will. Because we will never have what we had before. Circumstantially, it's not possible to have a show that is better. Never before, never again just sums it up. |
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Post by dylan on Apr 25, 2023 19:16:58 GMT -5
I'm doing a watchthrough of WCW 2000 and it's not nearly as bad as I've been told. The matches for the most part have been solid, outside of some of the  ed Russo finishes. There's tons of hidden gem matches tucked away, especially in the hardcore division. Guys like The Wall, Crowbar, and Big Vito were fun brawlers and are a type of wrestler that just isn't really around anymore. A lot of the power plant dudes seemed promising, and definitely could have used more time training, and it really would have been cool to see how guys like the Natural Born Thrillers would have turned out if the company didn't die and derail them all. Palumbo and O'Haire really are a great team and never should have been broken up. Mike Sanders could have been a great goofy heel with more time to work on his mic skills. I feel like, had the company kept going, Dusty could have helped him with that a lot. Speaking of Dusty, I know he was planning on bringing Steve Corino. Imagine him aligned with Sanders. License to print money. Also, it started as a general 2000 watchthrough, with Raw and SD also involved. Couldn't get into it so I dropped it pretty early. Maybe I'd need to start from an earlier point but I just don't give a damn about the McMahons and half of the stuff going on, especially with the 20 minute opening promos on almost all of the shows. It's crazy how WCW is more bearable than that. Wrong show won. |
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