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Post by RybackV1 on May 6, 2023 3:01:35 GMT -5
Yeah It was awesome just too much for me at a time where I need a car and new place to live and taken in my friend who has no where else to stay. I have the New Gen arena and stil never even opened the ring. But this was never gonna happen for me.
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Post by RavenRulz on May 6, 2023 3:02:05 GMT -5
I don't know why they included that Rey Mysterio. Sure it's his first Ultimate, but im sure they released it as a basic in the last year, they should have kept Hulk Hogan at 5,000 backers definitely, and moved that Rey Mysterio to the final character unlocked. I lost more incentive to get it when I saw that WCW Hogan was pulled from the table. Also I don't think they should have got Sam Roberts involved in any of these videos. To me his selling in the Mattel Creations video came across as annoying. That’s because he is annoying, can’t watch anything that he’s on. The modern day weasel. |
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Post by kirk815 on May 6, 2023 3:03:53 GMT -5
Look on the bright side. Now that they don't have to spend all that money on producing these sets they can jump straight into the next WWE crowdfundibg project. You can say that them not budging on resolving International shipping was a factor, but still you would have expected alot more buyers from North America anyway at their price. Still im shocked that the limited, less appealing New Generation set was backed and the Nitro set wasn't. Price point, plus a full "arena", plus better character selection. This sets character selection was really confusing to me, DDP and BPP were the only 2 everyone wanted. So had to drop $400 for a stage and a Rey no one really was asking for and a BPP then have to drop whatever the ring is gonna cost later. Just didn't make sense to me and clearly a lot of other collectors. I think the MNW line played a part. It's like they wanted to save the heavy hitters/more in demand looks for that line. We should have had Hall, Nash, Scott Steiner and a 4th spot that fit the Doink spot (Disciple, Disco Inferno, Buff Bagwell, Glacier, Mortis, Yeti, Kevin Sullivan, etc.). WWE had 2 years to sign someone that fit that role. If that didn't work out, then the 4th spot could have been jeans DDP, Booker T, Macho (Halloween Havoc), Hollywood Hogan, etc. which except for HH Macho are probably being saved for the Walmart line. Yellow/Red Hogan (Pastamania or not) should have never been considered for the crowdfunding or the MNW line. I feel like the Hulk gimmick accounts on here and "Hulk moving merch" made them too over confident. While Rey had a great/memorable WCW run in the cruiserweight division, he gets so many figures released that it baffles me that they put him in there. It's hard to get your collector base excited about a figure in a crowdfund that they already have dozens of and dozens more planned. Steiner was a boring white singlet that they couldn't fully execute due to licensing. Probably another victim of saving the more in demand looks for the MNW line. I was looking forward to Warrior the most, but something was definitely off with that figure. From the head/face/hair sculpt and the duster that was a dull brown/didn't pop - it just looked cheapish compared to his other dusters. This is probably a figure that should have went to the MNW line, but I feel like they might have already planned the other jean look (black duster) for that line. |
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Post by CMW Toys on May 6, 2023 3:09:12 GMT -5
If everyone who backed just agrees to pay an extra $108.26 dollars each we will meet the 5k! Easy!
Just a note. This is a joke
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on May 6, 2023 3:11:15 GMT -5
Price point, plus a full "arena", plus better character selection. This sets character selection was really confusing to me, DDP and BPP were the only 2 everyone wanted. So had to drop $400 for a stage and a Rey no one really was asking for and a BPP then have to drop whatever the ring is gonna cost later. Just didn't make sense to me and clearly a lot of other collectors. I think the MNW line played a part. It's like they wanted to save the heavy hitters/more in demand looks for that line. We should have had Hall, Nash, Scott Steiner and a 4th spot that fit the Doink spot (Disciple, Disco Inferno, Buff Bagwell, Glacier, Mortis, Yeti, Kevin Sullivan, etc.). WWE had 2 years to sign someone that fit that role. If that didn't work out, then the 4th spot could have been jeans DDP, Booker T, Macho (Halloween Havoc), Hollywood Hogan, etc. which except for HH Macho are probably being saved for the Walmart line. Yellow/Red Hogan (Pastamania or not) should have never been considered for the crowdfunding or the MNW line. I feel like the Hulk gimmick accounts on here and "Hulk moving merch" made them too over confident. While Rey had a great/memorable WCW run in the cruiserweight division, he gets so many figures released that it baffles me that they put him in there. It's hard to get your collector base excited about a figure in a crowdfund that they already have dozens of and dozens more planned. Steiner was a boring white singlet that they couldn't fully execute due to licensing. Probably another victim of saving the more in demand looks for the MNW line. I was looking forward to Warrior the most, but something was definitely off with that figure. From the head/face/hair sculpt and the duster that was a dull brown/didn't pop - it just looked cheapish compared to his other dusters. This is probably a figure that should have went to the MNW line, but I feel like they might have already planned the other jean look (black duster) for that line. Some good points here but I also think not having the available WCW talent like Sting, The Giant, and Jericho to name a few made the selection process small. Theres plenty of WCW talent that haven't had figures that would have been great for the crowdfund but Mattel don't have access to them. 😔 |
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Post by ace7410 on May 6, 2023 3:23:02 GMT -5
Super sad to see this not get backed, although I’m not shocked. It seems the majority all felt the same. Too little for the price tag. Really sucks if this truly means the end of crowdfunding for WWE. New gen was actually really fun. This was just disappointing.
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Post by Warriah' on May 6, 2023 3:30:57 GMT -5
Just think. All they had to do to make this a success was charge international customers the same as the yanks. 1000 people from the rest of the world would have absolutely backed this.
Will they learn from this? I have a feeling that’s a no.
This died by Mattel’s greed. Nothing more to say.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on May 6, 2023 3:34:54 GMT -5
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Post by jfinnomore on May 6, 2023 3:40:04 GMT -5
Price point, plus a full "arena", plus better character selection. This sets character selection was really confusing to me, DDP and BPP were the only 2 everyone wanted. So had to drop $400 for a stage and a Rey no one really was asking for and a BPP then have to drop whatever the ring is gonna cost later. Just didn't make sense to me and clearly a lot of other collectors. I think the MNW line played a part. It's like they wanted to save the heavy hitters/more in demand looks for that line. We should have had Hall, Nash, Scott Steiner and a 4th spot that fit the Doink spot (Disciple, Disco Inferno, Buff Bagwell, Glacier, Mortis, Yeti, Kevin Sullivan, etc.). WWE had 2 years to sign someone that fit that role. If that didn't work out, then the 4th spot could have been jeans DDP, Booker T, Macho (Halloween Havoc), Hollywood Hogan, etc. which except for HH Macho are probably being saved for the Walmart line. Yellow/Red Hogan (Pastamania or not) should have never been considered for the crowdfunding or the MNW line. I feel like the Hulk gimmick accounts on here and "Hulk moving merch" made them too over confident. While Rey had a great/memorable WCW run in the cruiserweight division, he gets so many figures released that it baffles me that they put him in there. It's hard to get your collector base excited about a figure in a crowdfund that they already have dozens of and dozens more planned. Steiner was a boring white singlet that they couldn't fully execute due to licensing. Probably another victim of saving the more in demand looks for the MNW line. I was looking forward to Warrior the most, but something was definitely off with that figure. From the head/face/hair sculpt and the duster that was a dull brown/didn't pop - it just looked cheapish compared to his other dusters. This is probably a figure that should have went to the MNW line, but I feel like they might have already planned the other jean look (black duster) for that line. Excellent points, so they basically got in their own way with the MNW line and this project got the scraps. Just seems like with all the talent they had under contract they could of wowed with some looks we wouldn't see without or characters we wouldn't see without but Rey and Hogan arent moving many needles and like you said the Warrior looked really cheap compared to his other offerings. Hopefully Mattel Team learns from this failure though and can try to run it back eventually. |
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Post by danfdan on May 6, 2023 3:40:08 GMT -5
Just think. All they had to do to make this a success was charge international customers the same as the yanks. 1000 people from the rest of the world would have absolutely backed this. Will they learn from this? I have a feeling that’s a no. This died by Mattel’s greed. Nothing more to say. This is the answer. The fact that this was never answered or rectified is the reason that this crowdfund died. |
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Post by zen411 on May 6, 2023 3:42:42 GMT -5
My full thoughts on this was too much money for too little offering. The new Gen arena seemed like a party that was fun to back. This felt like a greedy sales pitch the whole time. Not one of the figures was must have. They saved jeans ddp and Eric bischoff and any really hard hitters for other offerings. Nevee once was anyone asking for or excited for that Rey. There is a playset I just bought for the 1966 batman line for 35 dollars. Yes it doesn't have led lights and it's not gigantic but it looks nice and I didn't have to break the bank for it. There's no reason this needed to be 400 dollars.
I agree that Sam Roberts and the promotional videos didn't help. It never felt fun. It always felt like a greedy grab to me. I will never forget how fun and exciting it was when they added the Macho Man announcer set to the New Gen and we got all of the tiers. This never had that energy. It felt like a pricy cash grab from the start and it makes the 11000 tiers even more ridiculous. Shame for people who really wanted it. I just want Mattel to learn from this.
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Post by muuk76 on May 6, 2023 3:47:04 GMT -5
Well the USA dropped the ball on funding this big time but all jokes aside the poor figure selection and final cost for a limited production plus the disparity on costs between countries and the lack of international payment plans truly did for this crowdfund.
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Post by Warriah' on May 6, 2023 3:50:10 GMT -5
Just think. All they had to do to make this a success was charge international customers the same as the yanks. 1000 people from the rest of the world would have absolutely backed this. Will they learn from this? I have a feeling that’s a no. This died by Mattel’s greed. Nothing more to say. This is the answer. The fact that this was never answered or rectified is the reason that this crowdfund died. When you think about it you didn’t even need 1000. Just 500 non Americans paying $400+shipping needed to back 2. I would have. My brother backed the new gen ring last time as an investment as he knew he could make a profit (and did). He was out when he saw they were charging £500+postage instead of the £325ish we should have been paying. Fully believe had this been rectified before launch we’d have hit some tiers. Mattel couldn’t see past it’s own greed and sadly everyone has suffered. |
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Post by ace7410 on May 6, 2023 3:51:30 GMT -5
They absolutely can’t say the community didn’t try. This thread and Instagram alone proves that people were pushing it and promoting it. People really did want this but they alienated a lot of their international buyers from the start. Like one said above new gen was a fun and exciting campaign but with this one it felt like it had to be constantly justified and started more arguments than conversations.
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Post by Stevie H on May 6, 2023 3:54:09 GMT -5
Did anyone get charged for it? It said it would be a Pending Transaction, but my bank statement has the £509 for it charged a few days ago.
Did anyone else from the UK or Europe have this issue? Not impressed they took the money days ahead of the end goal.
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Post by originalniceguy on May 6, 2023 3:57:49 GMT -5
Shocked to hear Michael Cole promote it on smackdown on the last day - would have done wonders earlier on in the campaign. Oh well hopefully we get another chance one day down the line, clearly demand is there as long as the package/marketing is fine tuned. Thank you to the team for making it a dream at least!
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Post by breal59 on May 6, 2023 3:58:40 GMT -5
I hope they get Sam Roberts off this position as spokesperson seller on these videos.
The way he reacts to things on those Elite Squad videos, for example Elite 100 lineup and images were revealed at SDCC. They went on sale in about November. And here he was in an Elite Squad video a week before the Royal Rumble, supposedly an informed, in the know guy reacting to the Elite 100 series like it was new, raw information and the first time it was revealed.
My point is that he was very annoying in the Crowdfund Mattel Creations video. In the scheme of things I would say it was one of their most important presentations to back the crowd fund. Maybe alot of casual collectors thought "this crowdfund looks cool but this presenter is annoying" and then it put them off buying it.
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Post by Warriah' on May 6, 2023 3:59:00 GMT -5
Mattel made a lot of small mistakes on this that hindered progression. From Rey being the included figure, to the Hogan being a rerelease. You had the fact that they included a usually colourful character like Warrior just in jeans. Steiner didn’t have all the deco.
But it would have been funded in spite of those things if they’d have given us Steiner as an early bird from the beginning. Motivate that FOMO by saying anyone after 10 days won’t get him and not launched without sorting out international costs.
This thing was DEAD the moment it went up at £470, which was already ludicrous and then Jack it up an extra £30 with no explanation the following day.
Absurd.
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Post by YeehawMan on May 6, 2023 3:59:56 GMT -5
At the end of the day this died because they screwed over international customers, yes there’s other criticisms you can point at but if they treated international customers the same as U.S customers it would’ve reached 5,000 backers
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Post by Vamp55 on May 6, 2023 4:01:00 GMT -5
A real shame this thing didn’t make it. I was lucky enough to see it in person at Mania, it deserved to be made. And now my passive aggressive, drunk take on the situation (almost 7.00pm here in Australia on Saturday night, I’m just getting started 🍺). The figure choices missed big time. Rey’s WCW run is an after thought for most collectors at this point, he had no business being anywhere near a WCW stage crowd fund. Same goes for “wish” (WCW) Hulk Hogan, and while they switched to Steiner, it got off on the wrong foot. Why not just do the Outsiders or Harlem Heat straight up and call it a day. I get holding off Bischoff to the ring, but it that failed didn’t it. Maybe it should have been Bischoff and DDP! Point is, Rey and Hogan were a big miss. And stop with the bloody reissues / rereleases. You’re killing your own market. What made the New Gen work was resellers, like it or hate it, that’s the game. Very few “investors” (using that term lightly) doubled or tripled up on this, that’s the gap why it came up 1k short. And you can all say, scalpers suck blah blah blah, but we as buyers fuel their market. Mattel can’t have it both ways, you either completely kill the secondary market and give up on high end items, or you stop the reissues, understanding that the secondary market can be a good thing and support high end items that can be broken up and sold for profit. (In turn helping those who can’t or won’t pay the total get parts/figures they want) And lastly, you’re alienating your collector base with all this influencer crap. Guess what, most of us who buy the more expensive stuff are grown men, who like to think our collections are pretty awesome. We don’t like Logan Paul or KSI (who ever the hell that is), you’re just pissing us off by sending these “influencers” item first. Cody is the perfect example, why do other have it before the rest of us. Not like they can go out “influence” anyone to buy it?  Passive aggressive rant over. I really did want this to get made, I back it even though I only collect MOC and have no use for a stage. Now back to my beers 🍻 cheers 😜 |
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