kiphouse
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Post by kiphouse on May 6, 2023 5:26:02 GMT -5
It was $150 more than it should've been for canadians. This wasnt well thought out at all.
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mperiolat
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Post by mperiolat on May 6, 2023 5:32:21 GMT -5
Really tough to watch the Coronation so soon after this; you just know how disappointed the King must be that this didn’t get funded, but he’s not letting it show during the event itself - a true inspiration to us all  Yes, this failure is also going to absolutely kill ticket sales for All In. They’ll be lucky to fill a bingo hall now. |
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Post by kirk815 on May 6, 2023 5:32:46 GMT -5
Really tough to watch the Coronation so soon after this; you just know how disappointed the King must be that this didn’t get funded, but he’s not letting it show during the event itself - a true inspiration to us all Epic fail on his part - all he had to do was invite the first 5K that backed it to his coronation. |
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ajay182
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Post by ajay182 on May 6, 2023 5:33:41 GMT -5
I'm sure yet another postmortem isn't needed but attributing the missing buys:
- International. Won't expand as its been done to death - I'm international and backed two, purely because I have access to a US address. If I didn't, I wouldn't have. Let people choose whether they want to pay import fees upfront or not.
- Payment options. This is a bigger one than you may realise, more so than figure lineups. I worked in payments for years and they've literally left a ton of money on the table not having PayPal, Amex, Google Pay etc.
- Earlybird. They lost out on an earlybird surge, between the figure and the lack of exclusivity. It's strange they didn't redo the Macho execution (exclusive to earlybird), given how huge a success it was.
And those are just micro factors. You can combine all three and reasonably find 1000 buys. I can speak to the second one specifically and tell you there are hundreds in that alone.
Add in the macro factors (WWE belittling WCW for 22 years, global economy etc) and you really need to be flawless on the micro elements to combat those. They weren't, so they came into play.
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Post by coldblooded on May 6, 2023 5:48:55 GMT -5
Welp I tried 😕
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elvisfan1
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Post by elvisfan1 on May 6, 2023 5:50:04 GMT -5
I hope there's some really serious conversations going on at Mattel now about the way they're treating non-American customers.
It's not even just the price of the crowdfund, it's the US store exclusives that are a nightmare to get here as well. So even if we had backed the stage, where would we be getting the Walmart exclusive Monday Night War line from? Something that I didn't even consider at the time but it's just another nail in the coffin.
I'm gutted for everyone who wanted this to be backed. It would have made for some incredible photography and displays. Hopefully Mattel can look at this and learn from it.
Remember, it's not collectors who failed, it's Mattel.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on May 6, 2023 5:50:37 GMT -5
Well it looks like it's time for the New World Poorder to disband. It's been an honor being poor with you all, but I'll always know being poor is 4 lyfe.
*Makes jerk off motion*
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RedDevil
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Post by RedDevil on May 6, 2023 5:55:17 GMT -5
Really tough to watch the Coronation so soon after this; you just know how disappointed the King must be that this didn’t get funded, but he’s not letting it show during the event itself - a true inspiration to us all Epic fail on his part - all he had to do was invite the first 5K that backed it to his coronation. It must be extra galling for him given that the customs mess for collectors in the UK was done in his name through His Majesty's Revenue and Customs Or maybe his role in all this is the more sinister? What if he was requiring Mattel to collect the customs now to help pay for the Coronation?!!  |
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ddt4thee
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Post by ddt4thee on May 6, 2023 5:55:27 GMT -5
Was anyone able to get shop pay to show the pay in 12 installments like they advertise ? I really wanted to back this, but the payment option they show does not appear. I was finally able to see the pay in 4, but no luck with the 12 month plan. Never saw the 12 month plan at all, and the 4 month plan wouldn't work when you selected it going through checkout. I pointed it out in this thread many times, also over in the Q&A one and was ignored by everyone at Mattel who could do anything about it (like accept PayPal or any of the other options they wouldn't take before). I'm sure lots of other people besides us had this problem, so imagine my shock to wake up this morning to see it wasn't funded. Go figure. Just a debacle from start to finish. |
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Post by Flair Forever on May 6, 2023 5:56:10 GMT -5
I'm sure yet another postmortem isn't needed but attributing the missing buys: - International. Won't expand as its been done to death - I'm international and backed two, purely because I have access to a US address. If I didn't, I wouldn't have. Let people choose whether they want to pay import fees upfront or not. - Payment options. This is a bigger one than you may realise, more so than figure lineups. I worked in payments for years and they've literally left a ton of money on the table not having PayPal, Amex, Google Pay etc. - Earlybird. They essentially lost an earlybird surge, between the figure and the lack of exclusivity. It's strange they didn't just redo the Macho-style execution (exclusive to earlybird), given how huge a success it was. And those are just the micro factors. You can combine all three and reasonably find 1000 buys. I can speak to the second one specifically and tell you there are hundreds in that alone. Add in the macro factors (WWE belittling WCW for 22 years, global economy etc) and you really need to be flawless on the micro elements to combat those. They weren't, so they came into play. I'd add the timing - the Crowdfund dropped during Wrestlemania week, when the most avid fans wallets are MOST stretched already (travel, tickets, meals, souvenirs)..... THEN they also dropped a bunch of other cool Pre-Orders LITERALLY less than 48 hours after the CrowdFund started (GobbeldyGooker, Defining Moments, and new Target Legends). We often go up to 4 consecutive months during the year where there is NOTHING NEW TO BUY..... and they dropped this $400+ item during a week where there were TONS of other options for wrestling fans to spend money. |
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on May 6, 2023 5:57:36 GMT -5
I'm sure yet another postmortem isn't needed but attributing the missing buys: - International. Won't expand as its been done to death - I'm international and backed two, purely because I have access to a US address. If I didn't, I wouldn't have. Let people choose whether they want to pay import fees upfront or not. - Payment options. This is a bigger one than you may realise, more so than figure lineups. I worked in payments for years and they've literally left a ton of money on the table not having PayPal, Amex, Google Pay etc. - Earlybird. They essentially lost an earlybird surge, between the figure and the lack of exclusivity. It's strange they didn't just redo the Macho-style execution (exclusive to earlybird), given how huge a success it was. And those are just the micro factors. You can combine all three and reasonably find 1000 buys. I can speak to the second one specifically and tell you there are hundreds in that alone. Add in the macro factors (WWE belittling WCW for 22 years, global economy etc) and you really need to be flawless on the micro elements to combat those. They weren't, so they came into play. I'd add the timing - the Crowdfund dropped during Wrestlemania week, when the most avid fans wallets are MOST stretched already (travel, tickets, meals, souvenirs)..... THEN they also dropped a bunch of other cool Pre-Orders LITERALLY less than 48 hours after the CrowdFund started (GobbeldyGooker, Defining Moments, and new Target Legends). We often go up to 4 consecutive months during the year where there is NOTHING NEW TO BUY..... and they dropped this $400+ item during a week where there were TONS of other options for wrestling fans to spend money. I’d argue there’s no good time to spend $400, especially if money is tight. Wrestlemania at least had more eyes on the product so more potential backers. There’s always pros and cons. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 6:18:36 GMT -5
Cardova is not going to be happy with us. How will we make amends and pledge our loyalty?
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Post by deskjet on May 6, 2023 6:18:44 GMT -5
It’s pretty sad when your big surprise reveal is….drumroll…the stage comes apart!!!😃👍
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Post by 💯ULTIMATE💯 on May 6, 2023 6:18:50 GMT -5
Only thing I’m going to say regarding the Crowfund is that Mattel should go back to the New Gen Crowdfund, see what worked with that one and also read all feedback regarding this crowdfund so they can apply it to the next crowdfund. Definitely a learning experience for Mattel.
To all those that backed it, I feel for you guys. I really do. It’s a bitter pill to swallow not being able to add this to your collection. It sucks
To all those that didn’t back it, I’m sure you all had valid reasons to not backing it.
Try not to dwell on this too much. Let’s hope that the next crowdfund (if they continue with them) will be properly rolled out to cater to all collectors and have irresistible tiers.
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HothHan
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Post by HothHan on May 6, 2023 6:22:11 GMT -5
I'm sure yet another postmortem isn't needed but attributing the missing buys: - International. Won't expand as its been done to death - I'm international and backed two, purely because I have access to a US address. If I didn't, I wouldn't have. Let people choose whether they want to pay import fees upfront or not. - Payment options. This is a bigger one than you may realise, more so than figure lineups. I worked in payments for years and they've literally left a ton of money on the table not having PayPal, Amex, Google Pay etc. - Earlybird. They essentially lost an earlybird surge, between the figure and the lack of exclusivity. It's strange they didn't just redo the Macho-style execution (exclusive to earlybird), given how huge a success it was. And those are just the micro factors. You can combine all three and reasonably find 1000 buys. I can speak to the second one specifically and tell you there are hundreds in that alone. Add in the macro factors (WWE belittling WCW for 22 years, global economy etc) and you really need to be flawless on the micro elements to combat those. They weren't, so they came into play. I'd add the timing - the Crowdfund dropped during Wrestlemania week, when the most avid fans wallets are MOST stretched already (travel, tickets, meals, souvenirs)..... THEN they also dropped a bunch of other cool Pre-Orders LITERALLY less than 48 hours after the CrowdFund started (GobbeldyGooker, Defining Moments, and new Target Legends). We often go up to 4 consecutive months during the year where there is NOTHING NEW TO BUY..... and they dropped this $400+ item during a week where there were TONS of other options for wrestling fans to spend money. Crowd funding in general typically finds more success during this time of the year. The timing was an analytical (and correct) decision. I'm not sure of the rules around here regarding posting links but it's easy to Google it. What they needed to do was drop the price $200, throw in 11 more figures, include a figure of the guy that hopped the rail at Bash at the Beach 96 that guy his head kicked in by Nash, and include a WCW Nitro fanny pack and maybe then more people would have seen the value in it. Edit: also I still can't believe people were ready to take a LOAN out for this. Despite how cool it was that is nuts. Either you have the money or you don't for a completely un-essential item. |
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Post by RuthlessFigs on May 6, 2023 6:28:07 GMT -5
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Post by Cammi Oh on May 6, 2023 6:29:08 GMT -5
So, what did the final percentage get to before it ended? I forgot to check last night.
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Rob7274
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Post by Rob7274 on May 6, 2023 6:33:47 GMT -5
I hope there's some really serious conversations going on at Mattel now about the way they're treating non-American customers. It's not even just the price of the crowdfund, it's the US store exclusives that are a nightmare to get here as well. So even if we had backed the stage, where would we be getting the Walmart exclusive Monday Night War line from? Something that I didn't even consider at the time but it's just another nail in the coffin. I'm gutted for everyone who wanted this to be backed. It would have made for some incredible photography and displays. Hopefully Mattel can look at this and learn from it. Remember, it's not collectors who failed, it's Mattel. This is a great point and I also hope this happens |
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Post by aggressiveperfector on May 6, 2023 6:39:07 GMT -5
Well it looks like it's time for the New World Poorder to disband. It's been an honor being poor with you all, but I'll always know being poor is 4 lyfe. *Makes jerk off motion* 18 goddamn years here and I FINALLY got a running joke to stick. I think that makes it worth it to me. I didn’t get my Nitro Stage and White Chocolate Thunder Steiner Ultimate but I will ALWAYS have “Jerkoff motion” and that’s priceless… |
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Rob7274
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Post by Rob7274 on May 6, 2023 6:40:03 GMT -5
Those YouTube adverts that they showed the last week…what were those about.
A few words of text and a picture within a picture within a screen…you couldn’t even tell what the hell it was.
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