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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 6, 2023 21:26:22 GMT -5
It is literally being included as an incentive to make people back the set early. It’s free… right or wrong? What do you really expect for free? The last free incentive didn’t have any new parts at all. Just accessories that were new. This has a brand new head. I don’t know what you thought they’d give you for free… a first time in the line figure with new torso arms and legs? Be realistic. And again - it's an incentive to get people to back the set early... right or wrong? Including a figure that just has a new head and a shirt doesn't seem much of an incentive... as it is proving. You can still be more creative with existing parts - eg. if they wanted Hogan in there, why not make a new/different/repainted Hollywood Hogan figure? There's only ever been one UE of him - and people have actually been wanting a new UE Hollywood with the tan. Well put one in here... exclusive to the set. It would have certainly been more interesting than another UE in yellow trunks. And just throwing it out there, why not also include something like a Nitro announce desk or booth with the earlybird figure? Heck, they have a lot of the parts from the New Gen set last time. Mix things up a bit - and actually make the figure an incentive, rather than just an extra figure with a new head and shirt.
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Post by 4JackieChan on Apr 6, 2023 21:28:19 GMT -5
Also the Stenier outfit looks like it's not molded and just painted on. Also why are rey mysterio's arms so long and big?? My god these figure just got even worse... Seriously whoever picked these figures needs to be reprimanded because they do not generate excitement and will jeopardize future big BIG crowdfunded projects.
I don't know why they do this.. they are genuinely trying to shoot themselves in their own feet with these ultimates...
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Post by 4JackieChan on Apr 6, 2023 21:30:39 GMT -5
It’s free… right or wrong? What do you really expect for free? The last free incentive didn’t have any new parts at all. Just accessories that were new. This has a brand new head. I don’t know what you thought they’d give you for free… a first time in the line figure with new torso arms and legs? Be realistic. And again - it's an incentive to get people to back the set early... right or wrong? Including a figure that just has a new head and a shirt doesn't seem much of an incentive. At all. Don't release the figures and make the price cheaper... If you are not willing to give us Exciting Releases, why release them at all? IT just creates disappointment... Giving us the NITRO booth with the announcer table as a bonus would be more exciting than these lazy repainted figures that nobody cares about.
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Post by PJ on Apr 6, 2023 21:30:44 GMT -5
Also the Stenier outfit looks like it's not molded and just painted on. Also why are rey mysterio's arms so long and big?? My god these figure just got even worse... Seriously whoever picked these figures needs to be reprimanded because they do not generate excitement and will jeopardize future big BIG crowdfunded projects. I don't know why they do this.. they are genuinely trying to shoot themselves in their own feet with these ultimates... Steve said Steiner’s singlet is molded I asked that a few days ago in his Q&A thread. He also said they are tweaking it so it’s more rounded. So does this mean the only way we’ll get a UE Big Poppa Pump is with this set like Doink and Diesel from last years? or will there be more just not in this attire? And speaking of this one’s attire. Is that how he’s going to be with a painted on singlet on a singlet-less body or will the final product have a molded singlet torso? Thanks Scott has a new molded singlet torso. Singlet cut has been modified from what you’re seeing in these early virtual models to be rounder like his real singlet vs the “V” shape. These attires as Ultimates will be exclusive to this set.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 6, 2023 21:31:31 GMT -5
Come on guys, who wants to be backer 1,700? Get over there now
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Post by 4JackieChan on Apr 6, 2023 21:40:55 GMT -5
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Post by PJ on Apr 6, 2023 21:44:42 GMT -5
Are any of those guys under contract with the WWE? And if they are did the WWE give Mattel the OK to make them? Mattel just can’t make anyone they want. They need to be under a legends deal with the WWE and the WWE has to approve making them.
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Post by 4JackieChan on Apr 6, 2023 21:48:18 GMT -5
Are any of those guys under contract with the WWE? And if they are did the WWE give Mattel the OK to make them? Mattel just can’t make anyone they want. They need to be under a legends deal with the WWE and the WWE has to approve making them. Maybe not, but if this is suppose to be the die hard WCW fans we would want never before seen WCW guys. They half assed these figures and it's just annoying because there is a possibility this thing is not going to get funded.. If it doesn't get funded maybe they will try the RAW one next... haha
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Apr 6, 2023 21:51:34 GMT -5
La Parka is never gonna happen AAA own the gimmick
The figures they chose are not bad despite what everyone is saying, the problem is they’re all characters that have been done a lot except Steiner. Personally I thought all the Ultimate Warrior freaks would’ve made sure this got to 11K and I think they did too
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Post by stc13 on Apr 6, 2023 21:51:35 GMT -5
Because they don't have the rights to make any of them? We've been down this road so many times...
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Post by ilovejcp86 on Apr 6, 2023 21:51:44 GMT -5
I think DDP, Steiner, Booker T, Luger, and Flair would have been a better set of 5. Just now kinda setting in how weird Red and Yellow Hogan comes off when nWo Hogan is more closely tied to this era of Nitro.
I think the price point still hurts the most, New Gen was nearly half this and it took until the very last week and it only hit ~8500 in the end. The Nitro set is more money and needs MORE backers than the less expensive New Gen, to unlock everything. And now, this project is actually going to lose out on a figure.
If Mattel really don't have surprise goal/inclusion like the New Gen then lol lmao..
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Post by ztj_wwf on Apr 6, 2023 21:53:35 GMT -5
None of these figures are half-assed...Mattel only has so many people that they can make figures of. They can't do any of the guys that have been mentioned, because they're not under contract.
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Post by PJ on Apr 6, 2023 21:54:43 GMT -5
Are any of those guys under contract with the WWE? And if they are did the WWE give Mattel the OK to make them? Mattel just can’t make anyone they want. They need to be under a legends deal with the WWE and the WWE has to approve making them. Maybe not, but if this is suppose to be the die hard WCW fans we would want never before seen WCW guys. They half assed these figures and it's just annoying because there is a possibility this thing is not going to get funded.. If it doesn't get funded maybe they will try the RAW one next... haha They already hinted in the past if the crowdfunded project doesn’t get funded then they are probably done with crowdfunding. Because it would be considered a failure and would be harder for them to get approval to do another.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Apr 6, 2023 21:55:13 GMT -5
I was thinking the hogan ended at 11:59 pm pst
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 6, 2023 21:56:54 GMT -5
I think DDP, Steiner, Booker T, Luger, and Flair would have been a better set of 5. Just now kinda setting in how weird Red and Yellow Hogan comes off when nWo Hogan is more closely tied to this era of Nitro.Exactly. Make it a new Hollywood Hogan (with the tan) and a break-away Nitro announce table... 😎
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Post by stc13 on Apr 6, 2023 22:00:50 GMT -5
Maybe not, but if this is suppose to be the die hard WCW fans we would want never before seen WCW guys. They half assed these figures and it's just annoying because there is a possibility this thing is not going to get funded.. If it doesn't get funded maybe they will try the RAW one next... haha They already hinted in the past if the crowdfunded project doesn’t get funded then they are probably done with crowdfunding. Because it would be considered a failure and would be harder for them to get approval to do another. I'm amazed that people continue to argue over this. Mattel is a business, and Steve and Bill have bosses who probably couldn't tell you Goldberg from Gillberg. It's about whether products hit their profit targets and are successful. And if this project fails, there's no doubt that there will be added hurdles to future projects.
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Post by stc13 on Apr 6, 2023 22:06:26 GMT -5
None of these figures are half-assed...Mattel only has so many people that they can make figures of. They can't do any of the guys that have been mentioned, because they're not under contract. The figure choices were never going to be the Top 5 of most desired WCW attires. They're saving those for solo releases that will generate more revenue for Mattel. That's just business. These figures are basically throw ins that probably net Mattel a marginal profit. They were always going to be less desirable attires. Have people not paid attention to other crowd funded projects? The HISS Tank didn't have Duke, Snake Eyes, Scarlet, Destro, etc. It had some generic grunt soldiers and a "error" Cobra Commander that will inevitably get a repaint and most collectors will re-buy. Same with Galactus, the Sentinel, sail barge, etc. And the figures are all low deco with almost no new sculpting in other projects. What Mattel is offering here quite literally blows any previous projects out of the water in terms of figure value.
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Post by 4JackieChan on Apr 6, 2023 22:13:29 GMT -5
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Post by matgarza5 on Apr 6, 2023 22:45:31 GMT -5
I'll take this announcer table set along with bobby heenan and larry over any of those figures. Hell you can give us another bischoff before he went NWO.. Or give us medusa throwing the WWF title in the trash can.. That was iconic. Man we need Mongo he was funny as hell in WCW lol
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Post by micco on Apr 6, 2023 22:51:04 GMT -5
It’s free… right or wrong? What do you really expect for free? The last free incentive didn’t have any new parts at all. Just accessories that were new. This has a brand new head. I don’t know what you thought they’d give you for free… a first time in the line figure with new torso arms and legs? Be realistic. And again - it's an incentive to get people to back the set early... right or wrong? Including a figure that just has a new head and a shirt doesn't seem much of an incentive... as it is proving. You can still be more creative with existing parts - eg. if they wanted Hogan in there, why not make a new/different/repainted Hollywood Hogan figure? There's only ever been one UE of him - and people have actually been wanting a new UE Hollywood with the tan. Well put one in here... exclusive to the set. It would have certainly been more interesting than another UE in yellow trunks. And just throwing it out there, why not also include something like a Nitro announce desk or booth with the earlybird figure? Heck, they have a lot of the parts from the New Gen set last time. Mix things up a bit - and actually make the figure an incentive, rather than just an extra figure with a new head and shirt. Talk about easy to recreate as a custom… nah. That’s a horrible idea. Most people under normal circumstances would take a new head and new belt over a repaint any day of the week. Y’all are just making excuses to not have to shell out the 400 bucks. That’s what is obvious to everyone who’s already backed. The non backers are just grasping at straws for lame reasons to not back. You keep saying it’s an incentive but everything they’re offering is an incentive. Every detailed feature incentivizes buying it. The Rey is an incentive. Every tier is another inventive. This is a free incentive because we can or can not get it. For the same money. There’s just one variable that determines it. It can either be obtained for free if 5000 back by tomorrow or we don’t get it at all. So, for something that is free, a new head and a new belt is more than I expected. Guarantee the budget for it is higher than repainting a figure.
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