jokerfan
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Post by jokerfan on Apr 6, 2023 20:20:29 GMT -5
Tomorrow will be very interesting, can’t wait to see how it turns out
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Post by Mongo Bears on Apr 6, 2023 20:24:01 GMT -5
Im betting this gets to 50% by tomorrow and then the next day goes back to 33%
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kanepilk
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Post by kanepilk on Apr 6, 2023 20:28:18 GMT -5
I love when people prove my point exactly. The figures are 90% identical minus accessories that are easily found elsewhere, thank you for agreeing. The head and accessories account for way more than 10% I can point to 3 elites Seth Rollins figures where all that’s different is the paint deco of the tights. You think those figures are 90% different? Then you know nothing about figures.
I don't know how some people aren't grasping this - An Ultimate Warrior in Red, and an Ultimate Warrior in White, are two figures that might both be physically the same, but painted sufficiently different that they stand out from each other.
I'm not the biggest warrior fan in the world, but I have 4 Warrior elites. For Hogan, ANY Hogan that comes in yellow trunks is the same as the previous one, and the same as the next one. I have Hogan in yellow trunks once, and I won't buy another one. They're all the same. Unless you're a mega-fan of Hogan, it's all the same figure, over and over.
I don't have multiple Steve Austin figures in ring gear for the same reason. I don't have multiples of The Rock because the outline of the writing on his trunks is a different colour. I didn't buy two of the 90's Boss Man figures, because they're the same thing to me (and to most people).
I'll buy a few different HBK's because they LOOK different. This Hogan is the same as the other Hogan. Only the most hardcore Hogan fan would care about this particular figure. It should have been an nWo Hogan (like the one they're about to release) as it would look different and would entice people more.
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Post by kanepilk on Apr 6, 2023 20:29:54 GMT -5
I'm expecting a big jump tomorrow assuming Ringside haven't placed their order yet like they did with the New Gen arena - I'm sure they'll want the Hogan secured, especially with the other targets looking hopeless. That jump might cause some momentum to build. Of course that's assuming Ringside haven't backed it yet, or indeed that they made enough from the New Gen resale to think this one will be worth it at the price being asked, especially without the other targets. Do RSC really place a big order? People were saying they bought a load of New Gens, but I don't recall ever seeing them for sale on RSC?
EDIT: Since been clarified that they do (and did). My apologies.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 6, 2023 20:32:52 GMT -5
I guess we'll find out tomorrow who knows more, cause clearly as it stands it's not different enough to drive interest in to the project and it doesn't look like it will even be made. It’s not going to get made because you guys are broke. It aint gonna be backed because this project is just like WCW, it cost too much and no on wants the cheap crap they are trying to sell. But if you are so desperate and not broke you can easily find those Takeover Hogans on ebay cheap (just like these would be) and convert it to a WCW Hogan like everyone else who wants to save 400 dollars will be.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Apr 6, 2023 20:34:28 GMT -5
It is sad because the final two days of the New Generation set were very optimistic and the momentum was very exciting.
I believe that one was already over 65% funded the day before the early bird window closed as that was when I pulled the trigger on my two sets.
This unfortunately just doesn't have any of that steam as the deadline approaches. Then again, it also did get several THOUSAND backers on the final day alone so who the hell knows.
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Post by hiitsbrian on Apr 6, 2023 20:35:50 GMT -5
I guess we'll find out tomorrow who knows more, cause clearly as it stands it's not different enough to drive interest in to the project and it doesn't look like it will even be made. It’s not going to get made because you guys are broke. I 100% can afford this, I just don’t want it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 20:35:54 GMT -5
I guess we'll find out tomorrow who knows more, cause clearly as it stands it's not different enough to drive interest in to the project and it doesn't look like it will even be made. It’s not going to get made because you guys are broke. This is the most pathetic thing I’ve ever read on this forum. Now I’m hoping this whole thing fails.
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Apr 6, 2023 20:40:48 GMT -5
What does losing the Monday Night Wars have anything to do with this set? How does Mattel think that a WCW Nitro Stage would possibly be successful if the company itself is irrelivent. I'm saying this a a west coast kid the watch both Raw and Nitro and enjoyed both. Depends, when those Amazon Hogan's were sold out some people were paying $160. You are citing a couple of outlier in a data set you can't prove at this piont. However, I know extreme collectors with more disposible income than I have. So while it is possible, it wasn't an everyday occurance. Besides, are our Macho Man, Diesel, and Doink's making us rich? Some people are on the fence. Myself included, lol. There are a lot of people who aren't even aware of this product. It's not going to hurt most of them and they are not at our level of collecting and may never be, out of sight out of mind. We grow into this hobby or we grow out. Goodluck to all or the first week backer! How? Were you not there when Mattel previewed this thing? The reactions were out the roof. People left and right were clamoring for it. Whether the company is irrelevant or not, it's still making WWE money. If that's the case we shouldn't have gotten an nWo Hogan, a Sting, Hall, Nash, Bischoff etc.. All requests that people WANTED... I can't prove that people weren't paying absurd prices? Dude, just go back to the threads of people clamoring for that simple Amazon Hogan. Go to completed Ebay listings. Hogan isn't the only figure going for good money, the first sets of UEs like Shawn, Ultimate Warrior, The Rock. It might not even be people with disposable income, but hardcore collectors who missed out. I'm confused why you're on the fence. You don't care for a WCW product, but if you want to fund it to help the cause that's cool. It's not about hurting them. It's the fact that the people who don't know about this funding could be potential backers. We need people to back this thing to unlock the figures. If people are holding back that starts to add up. 1000 people who are holding back for the last minute, are 1000 backers. You are not comprehending what I'm writing, you are reacting to the words according to how thay make you feel, but I'll play along... If that's the case we shouldn't have gotten an nWo Hogan, a Sting, Hall, Nash, Bischoff etc... Figures of popular superstars (3 of which were wwf guys when I started watching) is not the same as an overpriced stage. People can swing $20-$35 per figure here and there, but a $400 stage all at one time is tough for any one with any disposible income. I can't prove that people weren't paying absurd prices? You literally can't. eBay doesn't go back that far. As a ELA teacher that's read a lot of claim papers, anecdotal evidence, which is what you are providing isn't stong. Unless you have a data chart or graph that provide some sort of record that can be cited, all I have is the word of a non-expert. You cannot prove people were spending $160 a hogan figure on a consitant basis. However, I remember. I was there and got mine cancelled, but I was also there to order it again for retail price. You don't care for a WCW product, but if you want to fund it to help the cause that's cool. Never said one thing about not caring for WCW, just presenting my opinions about the Nitro Stage Crowdfunding project. I think some of those bells and whistles are unnecessary and would love to see some retooling to present this at a lower cost. We vote with our wallets and my wallet tells me if I support this, then Mattel will try to upcharge the next and give us even less. I WANT to be able to fund this and if I was able to, it will have to be at the last minute due to various reasons. We all have a budget to work within and aside from wrestling, I enjoy collecting other toy brands. It's the fact that the people who don't know about this funding could be potential backers. True, people can back this if we spread awareness. I'm doing that too, but I'm on the opposite side. Mattel is lying about a crowdfunding project being off the table for good. Nothing is truth off the table if a profit can be made. You and me both can call an indiviual out for speading FOMO like wildfire and cause a $32.99 figure of Hogan to be purchased at $160, but can you be honest with yourself and call out Mattel for a bad deal, and being guilty of stirring of FOMO themselves? I know you are passionate about WCW and I'm not attacking that passion. I loved growing up with the NWO and Goldberg's Streak. I was one of the lucky one because I got to watch 3 hours of Nitro and then 2 hours of RAW because I lived in the west coast. Heck, I LOVE Ready to Rumble! I think the deal Mattel is giving us is terrible and they can do better.
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Apr 6, 2023 20:44:38 GMT -5
Regardless though - basically adding a different shirt and a new head to an easily available UE figure isn't really much of an incentive, when you're trying to get/attract early backers. It’s literally just being thrown in for free. That’s less reason to expect a figure with a bunch of newly molded parts. It’s literally just being thrown in for free. That’s less reason to expect a figure with a bunch of newly molded parts. You sound like me, talking to my wife. "All I have to do is spend $400 and I'm litertally saving money!"
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Post by micco on Apr 6, 2023 20:55:54 GMT -5
It’s literally just being thrown in for free. That’s less reason to expect a figure with a bunch of newly molded parts. It is literally being included as an incentive to make people back the set early. It’s free… right or wrong? What do you really expect for free? The last free incentive didn’t have any new parts at all. Just accessories that were new. This has a brand new head. I don’t know what you thought they’d give you for free… a first time in the line figure with new torso arms and legs? Be realistic.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Apr 6, 2023 20:56:52 GMT -5
10 away from 1700. Backers are steadily increasing. Gonna be an interesting few hours. Going to stay optimistic for sure!!
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Post by hiitsbrian on Apr 6, 2023 21:01:15 GMT -5
Apparently they originally wanted to include Pastamania accessories for Hogan at first (shirt and chefs hat I’m assuming), but for whatever reason, weren’t allowed to? Wonder what the hold up was. Bummer though, because had we seen that, this Hogan would be getting a ton more love, and the project would be closer to being backed.
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Post by thep1 on Apr 6, 2023 21:03:00 GMT -5
Well lemme ask you something Mean Gene, So whatcha gonna do Brother, when Hogan and his 24 inch pythons aren't backed, Brother?
Well, I am going to call Mattel and cancel my 2x rings. He's the only reason that I am buying 2 sets.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 6, 2023 21:04:22 GMT -5
10 away from 1700. Backers are steadily increasing. Gonna be an interesting few hours. Going to stay optimistic for sure!! Do we know the exact time Hogan ends?
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Post by hiitsbrian on Apr 6, 2023 21:05:00 GMT -5
10 away from 1700. Backers are steadily increasing. Gonna be an interesting few hours. Going to stay optimistic for sure!! Do we know the exact time Hogan ends? I think 7 PM I read somewhere. Dunno what timezone, though.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Apr 6, 2023 21:11:05 GMT -5
Backers still increasing. It’s a long shot but the next 24 hours should make for a fun thread. Long shot is putting it lightly…
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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on Apr 6, 2023 21:13:28 GMT -5
Apparently they originally wanted to include Pastamania accessories for Hogan at first (shirt and chefs hat I’m assuming), but for whatever reason, weren’t allowed to? Wonder what the hold up was. Bummer though, because had we seen that, this Hogan would be getting a ton more love, and the project would be closer to being backed. Has to be some sort of licensing issue...somebody, not named Hulk Hogan probably owns the rights to the name and logos and Mattel was probably not able to reach a reasonable deal for licensing
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Post by micco on Apr 6, 2023 21:20:44 GMT -5
The head and accessories account for way more than 10% I can point to 3 elites Seth Rollins figures where all that’s different is the paint deco of the tights. You think those figures are 90% different? Then you know nothing about figures. I don't know how some people aren't grasping this - An Ultimate Warrior in Red, and an Ultimate Warrior in White, are two figures that might both be physically the same, but painted sufficiently different that they stand out from each other. I'm not the biggest warrior fan in the world, but I have 4 Warrior elites. For Hogan, ANY Hogan that comes in yellow trunks is the same as the previous one, and the same as the next one. I have Hogan in yellow trunks once, and I won't buy another one. They're all the same. Unless you're a mega-fan of Hogan, it's all the same figure, over and over.
I don't have multiple Steve Austin figures in ring gear for the same reason. I don't have multiples of The Rock because the outline of the writing on his trunks is a different colour. I didn't buy two of the 90's Boss Man figures, because they're the same thing to me (and to most people). I'll buy a few different HBK's because they LOOK different. This Hogan is the same as the other Hogan. Only the most hardcore Hogan fan would care about this particular figure. It should have been an nWo Hogan (like the one they're about to release) as it would look different and would entice people more. I understand what you’re saying it’s just completely illogical. Paint is actually only one aspect of a figure. Not every character has a variety of extremely different outfits that they wear to the ring. Doesn’t mean the figures are all the same. Only a novice collector would say that. A laymen wouldn’t notice the new shorts mold they used on the new stone cold proto. You’d say “denim shorts and black shirt, same old figure” when in reality there’s a new head, new legs, new design on the shirt… the untrained eye may not realize it but that’s a very different figure in comparison to one that’s merely a repaint.
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Post by 4JackieChan on Apr 6, 2023 21:22:04 GMT -5
I don't know if Buff Bagwell is under contract, but I can bet someone like him would move more units than a BORING rey mysterio... we have too many rey mysterios..Hello a Horce Hogan would be more exciting... Seeing the same stuff over and over again but with different gear is just boring. Give us RAVEN or Konnan. Also why did they pick the worst most UN-ICONIC outfit for Scott Stenier . Something like this would even be way better:
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