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Post by stc13 on Apr 7, 2023 13:02:12 GMT -5
How do you guys think Mattel will pivot to try to save this thing? Not what you want them to do, but what you think they’ll actually do. I could see them extending Hogan, but only making him available to the first 5K backers. They won’t. They’re not going to budge on it Totally agreed, and Steve has said as much. They maxed out the budget. If this fails, it fails. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Apr 7, 2023 13:03:18 GMT -5
I'm wondering if we see people cancel their orders with Hogan being off the table unless Mattel does something. Not that a bunch of people really want that Hogan but it becomes a perceived value thing. The stage and Rey doesn't feel like it's worth $435 imo, but I'll pay it because I really want the stage. Hypothetically, I would still think we were getting good value if we could at least hit DDP and Steiner, even without Hogan, but that seems really unlikely. So I'm guessing there are people who feel this thing is only worth it with x amount of figures attached and just hitting Rey at the 5k mark simply isn't good enough.
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Post by dmoney on Apr 7, 2023 13:03:33 GMT -5
Character selection is definitely the issue here. Should of made Steiner the early bird and swapped out Rey and Warrior or Hogan for Hall and Nash. There's definitely some Character fatigue with Rey, Hogan, and Warrior. Idk how you can say character fatigue when the original argument against the Hogan was “it should’ve been Savage” I'm not saying Savage should have been the early backer, but at least his figures can offer different looks and colors. Would definitely have been a better choice than Hogan. |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Apr 7, 2023 13:04:53 GMT -5
People need to stop playing chicken with Mattel thinking they’re gonna give em something else if they continue hold out. If you don’t want it, fine, don’t back it. If you do want the stage and just not happy with a figure or two then better get on board now cuz things aren’t gonna change. All you’re doing is costing yourself an extra figure.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 7, 2023 13:05:21 GMT -5
If someone were to ship what I’m estimating to be a 20 lbs package in a giant box big enough to hold this stage, all of its parts, and up to 5 UE figures to the UK, how much would that cost? I’d imagine it would be pricey. I don’t ship anything overseas so I don’t know the rates but surely they’re not cheap. Assuming custom charges are on top of that as well. I know international buyers are upset but I’d assume that it would be expected that you’re gonna have to pay a considerable amount more to have something of that size and weight imported. Seems like most of the UK related gripes are with the customs fees above and beyond the prescribed rate, but FWIW, the slowest delivery based on today's rates I was able to estimate from Mattel's location in CA to London for a 20lb package (which feels like a lofty estimate) was about $65 USD which isn't too terrible. Comparatively, in the earliest shut down days of the pandemic when everything slowed to a crawl, I paid about $85 USD to ship a custom ASC from China to the northeastern United States. That was under 20lbs, but larger than the dimensions of the assembled stage and made of pressed paneling and fiberglass (to say nothing for the unreasonably weighted rotary encoders). |
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Post by marvelelite on Apr 7, 2023 13:07:54 GMT -5
Character selection is definitely the issue here. Should of made Steiner the early bird and swapped out Rey and Warrior or Hogan for Hall and Nash. There's definitely some Character fatigue with Rey, Hogan, and Warrior. Idk how you can say character fatigue when the original argument against the Hogan was “it should’ve been Savage” There's been alot more Hogan releases in a short period time. I can only think of 1 upcoming Macho vs the 4 or so Hogan's on deck. Not to mention this Hogan is very similar to the Amazon fan takeover. |
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Post by PJ on Apr 7, 2023 13:08:19 GMT -5
I'm wondering if we see people cancel their orders with Hogan being off the table unless Mattel does something. Not that a bunch of people really want that Hogan but it becomes a perceived value thing. The stage and Rey doesn't feel like it's worth $435 imo, but I'll pay it because I really want the stage. Hypothetically, I would still think we were getting good value if we could at least hit DDP and Steiner, even without Hogan, but that seems really unlikely. So I'm guessing there are people who feel this thing is only worth it with x amount of figures attached and just hitting Rey at the 5k mark simply isn't good enough. I am sure there will be people who cancel once we miss Hogan’s mark and is removed from from the package. But as I said from the beginning I want the stage most. As far as the figures go I really only wanted Steiner and Rey the others would just be a bonus to me. So I am keeping mine until it’s made or Mattel cancels it. |
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Post by Artie Kendall on Apr 7, 2023 13:11:12 GMT -5
3.2K in one day? Challenge accepted, brother!  |
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Apr 7, 2023 13:11:22 GMT -5
Idk how you can say character fatigue when the original argument against the Hogan was “it should’ve been Savage” There's been alot more Hogan releases in a short period time. I can only think of 1 upcoming Macho vs the 4 or so Hogan's on deck. Not to mention this Hogan is very similar to the Amazon fan takeover. They’ve made more figures of Savage than anybody else Outside of Cena, Rey, Warrior, & maybe Undertaker, nobody has more elite+ style figures |
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Post by viper412 on Apr 7, 2023 13:11:49 GMT -5
Welp. Clearly they should’ve done an ECW stage. Would’ve been about 75 bucks. Affordable for the all the deadbeats in here, domestic and abroad. This board’s infatuation with hating middle class and poor people is really something else Also an ECW stage would be cool so idk why that would be a bad thing to make don’t want to spend hundreds of dollars on plastic toy entrance stage = broke |
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Apr 7, 2023 13:13:29 GMT -5
This board’s infatuation with hating middle class and poor people is really something else Also an ECW stage would be cool so idk why that would be a bad thing to make don’t want to spend hundreds of dollars on plastic toy entrance stage = broke Love how the dude made sure to call the international collectors deadbeats too, even though they’d have to pay $200 more for it |
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Post by marvelelite on Apr 7, 2023 13:14:17 GMT -5
There's been alot more Hogan releases in a short period time. I can only think of 1 upcoming Macho vs the 4 or so Hogan's on deck. Not to mention this Hogan is very similar to the Amazon fan takeover. They’ve made more figures of Savage than anybody else Outside of Cena, Rey, Warrior, & maybe Undertaker, nobody has more elite+ style figures Yes Macho Man has been in the line since almost the beginning. The last 3 years there's been a significant amount of Hogan's released vs Macho. |
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Apr 7, 2023 13:33:33 GMT -5
I don't understand the joy some people get seeing stuff taken away from others. If you won't want it, cool but enjoying others misery is stupid. Who is enjoying anyone’s misery? I don’t really think anybody wants this to fail. I didn’t back it, but I hope it still happens to help the chances of there being future offerings. |
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Post by azraelms on Apr 7, 2023 13:37:17 GMT -5
People need to stop playing chicken with Mattel thinking they’re gonna give em something else if they continue hold out. If you don’t want it, fine, don’t back it. If you do want the stage and just not happy with a figure or two then better get on board now cuz things aren’t gonna change. All you’re doing is costing yourself an extra figure. This. This exactly. And I fully understand people not being able to spend the $400 on this, but even so, it is not charged at least until May 7, when the thing ends. So my thought is that everyone who even thinks they want it should get their order in ASAP. Then, if they decide between today and May 7 to cancel, go right ahead and do so. That would hopefully at least get whole thing backed and Hogan as part of it. I would guess if it gets close to the mark towards the end of the day, Ringside may go in and order a few hundred to parse out and sell down the line. So tonight will be some interesting thread watching at the very least. End is at Midnight Pacific time, correct? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 13:37:31 GMT -5
If someone were to ship what I’m estimating to be a 20 lbs package in a giant box big enough to hold this stage, all of its parts, and up to 5 UE figures to the UK, how much would that cost? I’d imagine it would be pricey. I don’t ship anything overseas so I don’t know the rates but surely they’re not cheap. Assuming custom charges are on top of that as well. I know international buyers are upset but I’d assume that it would be expected that you’re gonna have to pay a considerable amount more to have something of that size and weight imported. It’s around 30 dollars to Australia |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 13:38:33 GMT -5
If someone were to ship what I’m estimating to be a 20 lbs package in a giant box big enough to hold this stage, all of its parts, and up to 5 UE figures to the UK, how much would that cost? I’d imagine it would be pricey. I don’t ship anything overseas so I don’t know the rates but surely they’re not cheap. Assuming custom charges are on top of that as well. I know international buyers are upset but I’d assume that it would be expected that you’re gonna have to pay a considerable amount more to have something of that size and weight imported. It’s around 30 dollars to Australia |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Apr 7, 2023 13:42:03 GMT -5
If someone were to ship what I’m estimating to be a 20 lbs package in a giant box big enough to hold this stage, all of its parts, and up to 5 UE figures to the UK, how much would that cost? I’d imagine it would be pricey. I don’t ship anything overseas so I don’t know the rates but surely they’re not cheap. Assuming custom charges are on top of that as well. I know international buyers are upset but I’d assume that it would be expected that you’re gonna have to pay a considerable amount more to have something of that size and weight imported. It’s around 30 dollars to Australia Theres no way something of that size and weight would ship in the US for $30 let alone to the other side of the world. |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 7, 2023 13:42:54 GMT -5
Curious as to when the official cut off is. I want to make sure I tender my resignation from the wrestling figure community for not backing this project as demanded by Zack Cardona in an efficient manner.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 13:43:20 GMT -5
Idk how you can say character fatigue when the original argument against the Hogan was “it should’ve been Savage” There's been alot more Hogan releases in a short period time. I can only think of 1 upcoming Macho vs the 4 or so Hogan's on deck. Not to mention this Hogan is very similar to the Amazon fan takeover. nO iTs DiFfErEnT hIs HeAd dOeSnT hAvE tHe StuBbLe |
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Post by kutzheels on Apr 7, 2023 13:47:44 GMT -5
People need to stop playing chicken with Mattel thinking they’re gonna give em something else if they continue hold out. If you don’t want it, fine, don’t back it. If you do want the stage and just not happy with a figure or two then better get on board now cuz things aren’t gonna change. All you’re doing is costing yourself an extra figure. This. This exactly. And I fully understand people not being able to spend the $400 on this, but even so, it is not charged at least until May 7, when the thing ends. So my thought is that everyone who even thinks they want it should get their order in ASAP. Then, if they decide between today and May 7 to cancel, go right ahead and do so. That would hopefully at least get whole thing backed and Hogan as part of it. I would guess if it gets close to the mark towards the end of the day, Ringside may go in and order a few hundred to parse out and sell down the line. So tonight will be some interesting thread watching at the very least. End is at Midnight Pacific time, correct? No. I’m only backing if it has a chance to hit 5K by tonight. |
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I dont know good luck 
