Biff Slamkovich™
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Apr 10, 2023 13:18:50 GMT -5
I acknowledge Galactus, worth every penny The fact that it's a 6" figure in this photo is insane.
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Post by The Everlasting Spirit © on Apr 10, 2023 13:26:33 GMT -5
Tbh what I see in this thread is arrogance from extremes on both sides and a clear lack of respect for opposing views.. at times to a level of being patronising and uncivil.
Personally I haven't funded this... why? Mainly the issues with the international costs being sky high and no payment plan option. Would I fund it if both issues were resolved? Maybe but I would honestly want the rey, ddp, steiner and hogan to make it worth it in my opinion. That my view and it will be different from others and that's ok.
I agree there is something weird going on with the international prices and it should really be addressed in detail but Steve has told us he has taken it up with MC and I can't see what more we can expect from him at this point. It's great he is here and willing to talk to the community. I don't think we've had as good of an engagement here since Jeremy was active during the Jakks days. And let's be honest they had their own share of issues *cough* Chinese New year *cough*.
If you don't like whats on offer then don't back it and I'd your OK with it then do back it. If you have a view or feedback post it here.. just do it respectfully. If you disagree with someone else's view then that's ok.. this is a discussion forum and the whole point is people may have opposing views. It's good and it's great when discussion is civil. Honestly though what seems to be happening here isn't though. Its getting awful and I really hope we can all just take a step back and remember we are talking about toys (or collectables if you don't like the term toy)
This is a crowdfunder and the whole point is mot everything is going to be funded. Maybe we won't get the opportunity again, maybe we will (even If retooled). But nobody is obliged to fund it and neither is mattel obliged to change or do anything different to get it funded or made.
Again this is just my view and opinion and you are welcome to disagree with it. Let's just try to create a less toxic environment would be my view.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 10, 2023 13:27:14 GMT -5
Galactus: Devourer of Worlds. Evidence as to why I can't back the Nitro stage.
I have the ToyBiz BAF Galactus, and that is too big. That HasLab one is a beaut. It's....unreasonably massive....but beautiful.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 10, 2023 13:27:32 GMT -5
No Hogan no problem How did you get ahold of this! The WCW UE Hogan is so unique it can't be a fake.
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Apr 10, 2023 13:37:37 GMT -5
Dude you are really stretching. That Galactus is literally like no other toy that has ever been made. It can hardly be compared to other toys in its price range -- let alone the previous Galactus figures that have been released that were 1/3rd of the size (or smaller) and 1/20th as detailed. For those not familiar: This is it scaled next to a Marvel Legends -- just about the same size of a WWE Mattel Elite. Its 32 inches tall, over 70 points of articulation, LEDs in the head and chest, 3 swappable face plates, and it came with 3 exclusive Marvel Legends figures. They originally wanted 14,000 backers. They added 2 additional stretch goals just for fun and it ended up hitting over 30k. Its probably the current pinnacle of all of high end toys. It is simply incredible. There were zero mistakes made with Galactus. There are plenty of legitimate gripes with the Nitro stage. For Marvel Legends collectors, this was THEE figure. I bet about 1.5% of WWE Mattel collectors felt that way about the Nitro stage -- regardless of how well it's "made. Thanks "dude". That really cleared it up for me. Thanks. Meaning, I gave my opinion ... but it was wrong according to you. How does that fit on people's shelfs? How does it fit in a room? What about the cost in Europe? Didn't they already have Silver surfer (hulk Hogan). Which one has more plastic? Which one is bigger? Which one has more lights? Which one has more figures? Which one was never been made before? My bad. What was I thinking giving my personal opinion. All comments should go to Hard to Kill first to see if he approves before it reaches the forum. This shouldn't be a wrestling forum for Mattel toys where people give their opinions it should be thank god we posted on Hard to Kill's official post instead of the other one or its panties would have really gotten into a bunch. To CM Pants I think you would win the coke! I collect Marvel Legends as well and it is probably a bigger market but for the reasons I gave here I still wonder. Thanks for your input. Giving an opinion on ones opinion, is an opinion in itself. Never said anything remotely about who's opinion is worthy of this thread, or not. But if you wish: How does that fit on people's shelfs?The size of the Nitro stage goes in all directions. Its tall, wide and deep. Its literally so big that any display or collection needs to be reimagines and reconfigured to make room for anything this size. Galactus' impressive size comes mostly from its height. Its a lot easier to build UP than OUT. This thing is Detolf friendly, bookcase friendly, and you could even squeeze it into your current collection by just moving a couple of figures out of the way. It really isn't wide or taking up a ton of space. If Galactus goes in your office, you can buy a 5-tier bookshelf to have vertical storage. If your Nitro stage goes in your office, you can remove furniture or remodel your home to add square footage or configure it to be a lot less than its meant to be. How does it fit in a room? ...on a shelf? on the floor? I don't know what you mean. I imagine you asked this question because the size of the Nitro stage is quite big and that is a serious topic of discussion. The Galactus just isn't the same sort of issue. Its TALL and it can be maneuvered much more easily than the 5x2 panel Nitro stage that is almost 3 foot by 2 foot by 3.5 foot. What about the cost in Europe?No complaints from EU or Asian backers on prices but took a bit longer to get to them, understandably. Didn't they already have Silver surfer (hulk Hogan)?I think you are arguing with yourself. I didn't say Galactus didn't have a rerelease apart of it. It comes with the figure that is only available if you backed the project. And this one exclusively came with the purple hand portal mold so it can be posed as floating in Galactus' hand, which no other Silver Surfers will offer and nothing like that has ever been offered before. Which one has more plastic?
Again I really do not know what point this was trying to make. Which one is bigger? Which one has more lights?
In the first question you asked, the issue was the size of Galactus. Now this question seems to spin the other side and say the Nitro stage is a bigger bang for your buck. So, is the issue that the Galactus is too big or not big enough? Which one has more figures?
Galactus came with 3 additional figures and in all honesty, I'll be surprised to see the Nitro stage come with 2. Which one was never been made before?If your argument is that the previous releases of Galactus are good enough for you, then the 1998 Toybiz Nitro stage should be too, right? I mean, they already made it!!
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Apr 10, 2023 13:38:46 GMT -5
I acknowledge Galactus, worth every penny The fact that it's a 6" figure in this photo is insane. Even crazier: each one of Galactus' hands probably has the same amount of articulation as that Roman figure.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Apr 10, 2023 13:57:42 GMT -5
James and Johnny discussing this thing on Deadlock is very eye opening, if James is confused by how this thing works and upset about no Hogan, then how do you think the average person feels lol
“I better hurry up and get it soon before they keep taking things away from it” 😂😂😂
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 10, 2023 14:05:09 GMT -5
Dude you are really stretching. That Galactus is literally like no other toy that has ever been made. It can hardly be compared to other toys in its price range -- let alone the previous Galactus figures that have been released that were 1/3rd of the size (or smaller) and 1/20th as detailed. For those not familiar: This is it scaled next to a Marvel Legends -- just about the same size of a WWE Mattel Elite. Its 32 inches tall, over 70 points of articulation, LEDs in the head and chest, 3 swappable face plates, and it came with 3 exclusive Marvel Legends figures. They originally wanted 14,000 backers. They added 2 additional stretch goals just for fun and it ended up hitting over 30k. Its probably the current pinnacle of all of high end toys. It is simply incredible. There were zero mistakes made with Galactus. There are plenty of legitimate gripes with the Nitro stage. For Marvel Legends collectors, this was THEE figure. I bet about 1.5% of WWE Mattel collectors felt that way about the Nitro stage -- regardless of how well it's "made. Thanks "dude". That really cleared it up for me. Thanks. Meaning, I gave my opinion ... but it was wrong according to you. How does that fit on people's shelfs? How does it fit in a room? What about the cost in Europe? Didn't they already have Silver surfer (hulk Hogan). Which one has more plastic? Which one is bigger? Which one has more lights? Which one has more figures? Which one was never been made before? My bad. What was I thinking giving my personal opinion. All comments should go to Hard to Kill first to see if he approves before it reaches the forum. This shouldn't be a wrestling forum for Mattel toys where people give their opinions it should be thank god we posted on Hard to Kill's official post instead of the other one or its panties would have really gotten into a bunch. To CM Pants I think you would win the coke! I collect Marvel Legends as well and it is probably a bigger market but for the reasons I gave here I still wonder. Thanks for your input. I think that one of the problems with trying to find rhyme or reason in why Galactus succeeded so well where the Nitro stage is suffering through benchmarks like plastic consumption, lighting, size, and such is that the benchmarks we use to try and compare like-minded collectors (WWE to WWE, Marvel to Marvel, etc.) are so wildly varied that trying to cross compare unlike collections (WWE to Marvel) just makes a whole new batch of unequal measures. For my money (and I've never backed a collecting-adjacent crowdfund) as a former ML collector and current WWE collector, I think where Galactus was such a slam dunk was in the fact that if you baseline either demo to its core essence, they're both "action figure collectors". Galactus had been done before, but a) he's still a prominent character in the MU, and b) he could always be bigger. I think there's a lot to be said for the fact that HasLab's two big successful Marvel campaigns were character centric (Galactus and the Sentinel), but they fell short when they ventured into vehicles (Ghost Rider). Likewise, their other big property (star Wars) succeeded with vehicles complemented by figures (Jabba's Sail Barge and The Razorcrest), and failed when centered around characters/creatures (the Rancor). Star Wars also fell short with a ForceFX prop replica, but the Proton Pack (property with a huge prop replica following) nearly tripled its required backing. This is all a bit of a longwinded way to try and articulate that a Nitro stage serves a really niche segment of an already niche market. Everyone's mileage is going to vary, but as a wrestling figure collector, I display wrestling figures with wearable or holdable accessories. Anything beyond that is a struggle for space for me (specifically, I'm looking at my AEW shelf, for example, and wondering how I could better accommodate the Vanguard 1 & hologram Matt Hardy that came with his figure).
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 10, 2023 14:12:17 GMT -5
Thanks "dude". That really cleared it up for me. Thanks. Meaning, I gave my opinion ... but it was wrong according to you. How does that fit on people's shelfs? How does it fit in a room? What about the cost in Europe? Didn't they already have Silver surfer (hulk Hogan). Which one has more plastic? Which one is bigger? Which one has more lights? Which one has more figures? Which one was never been made before? My bad. What was I thinking giving my personal opinion. All comments should go to Hard to Kill first to see if he approves before it reaches the forum. This shouldn't be a wrestling forum for Mattel toys where people give their opinions it should be thank god we posted on Hard to Kill's official post instead of the other one or its panties would have really gotten into a bunch. To CM Pants I think you would win the coke! I collect Marvel Legends as well and it is probably a bigger market but for the reasons I gave here I still wonder. Thanks for your input. I think that one of the problems with trying to find rhyme or reason in why Galactus succeeded so well where the Nitro stage is suffering through benchmarks like plastic consumption, lighting, size, and such is that the benchmarks we use to try and compare like-minded collectors (WWE to WWE, Marvel to Marvel, etc.) are so wildly varied that trying to cross compare unlike collections (WWE to Marvel) just makes a whole new batch of unequal measures. For my money (and I've never backed a collecting-adjacent crowdfund) as a former ML collector and current WWE collector, I think where Galactus was such a slam dunk was in the fact that if you baseline either demo to its core essence, they're both "action figure collectors". Galactus had been done before, but a) he's still a prominent character in the MU, and b) he could always be bigger. I think there's a lot to be said for the fact that HasLab's two big successful Marvel campaigns were character centric (Galactus and the Sentinel), but they fell short when they ventured into vehicles (Ghost Rider). Likewise, their other big property (star Wars) succeeded with vehicles complemented by figures (Jabba's Sail Barge and The Razorcrest), and failed when centered around characters/creatures (the Rancor). Star Wars also fell short with a ForceFX prop replica, but the Proton Pack (property with a huge prop replica following) nearly tripled its required backing. This is all a bit of a longwinded way to try and articulate that a Nitro stage serves a really niche segment of an already niche market. Everyone's mileage is going to vary, but as a wrestling figure collector, I display wrestling figures with wearable or holdable accessories. Anything beyond that is a struggle for space for me (specifically, I'm looking at my AEW shelf, for example, and wondering how I could better accommodate the Vanguard 1 & hologram Matt Hardy that came with his figure). Well this is where the Nitro stage comes in. It’s the perfect display area for Vanguard 1 and hologram Matt. You’re welcome.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 10, 2023 14:14:29 GMT -5
I think that one of the problems with trying to find rhyme or reason in why Galactus succeeded so well where the Nitro stage is suffering through benchmarks like plastic consumption, lighting, size, and such is that the benchmarks we use to try and compare like-minded collectors (WWE to WWE, Marvel to Marvel, etc.) are so wildly varied that trying to cross compare unlike collections (WWE to Marvel) just makes a whole new batch of unequal measures. For my money (and I've never backed a collecting-adjacent crowdfund) as a former ML collector and current WWE collector, I think where Galactus was such a slam dunk was in the fact that if you baseline either demo to its core essence, they're both "action figure collectors". Galactus had been done before, but a) he's still a prominent character in the MU, and b) he could always be bigger. I think there's a lot to be said for the fact that HasLab's two big successful Marvel campaigns were character centric (Galactus and the Sentinel), but they fell short when they ventured into vehicles (Ghost Rider). Likewise, their other big property (star Wars) succeeded with vehicles complemented by figures (Jabba's Sail Barge and The Razorcrest), and failed when centered around characters/creatures (the Rancor). Star Wars also fell short with a ForceFX prop replica, but the Proton Pack (property with a huge prop replica following) nearly tripled its required backing. This is all a bit of a longwinded way to try and articulate that a Nitro stage serves a really niche segment of an already niche market. Everyone's mileage is going to vary, but as a wrestling figure collector, I display wrestling figures with wearable or holdable accessories. Anything beyond that is a struggle for space for me (specifically, I'm looking at my AEW shelf, for example, and wondering how I could better accommodate the Vanguard 1 & hologram Matt Hardy that came with his figure). Well this is where the Nitro stage comes in. It’s the perfect display area for Vanguard 1 and hologram Matt. You’re welcome. Why hasn't Mattel gone with this brilliant marketing pitch until just now? "I can't buy that - it takes up too much space. Even these little things take up space that could be used for another figure!" "Have you considered....taking up more space?!"
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 10, 2023 14:23:21 GMT -5
Well this is where the Nitro stage comes in. It’s the perfect display area for Vanguard 1 and hologram Matt. You’re welcome. Why hasn't Mattel gone with this brilliant marketing pitch until just now? "I can't buy that - it takes up too much space. Even these little things take up space that could be used for another figure!" "Have you considered....taking up more space?!" I think we just cracked the code to get this to 11K!!
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 10, 2023 14:24:24 GMT -5
Why hasn't Mattel gone with this brilliant marketing pitch until just now? "I can't buy that - it takes up too much space. Even these little things take up space that could be used for another figure!" "Have you considered....taking up more space?!" I think we just cracked the code to get this to 11K!! At what tier does Mattel send a general contractor out to pull permits to put an addition on my home? Asking for a friend.
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Post by screech on Apr 10, 2023 14:24:49 GMT -5
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Post by J-MANN on Apr 10, 2023 14:29:25 GMT -5
Backers back down to 2,009 - seems like a couple cancellations have happened.
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Post by screech on Apr 10, 2023 14:38:30 GMT -5
no offense but you literally just showed up 😂
edit: she deleted her post. but i would recommend you just get used to the way people are acting because it's nothing new. 💁♂️
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Apr 10, 2023 14:41:39 GMT -5
no offense but you literally just showed up 😂 edit: she deleted her post. but i would recommend you just get used to the way people are acting because it's nothing new. 💁♂️ Gimme the deets, I missed it
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Apr 10, 2023 14:43:06 GMT -5
I think that one of the problems with trying to find rhyme or reason in why Galactus succeeded so well where the Nitro stage is suffering through benchmarks like plastic consumption, lighting, size, and such is that the benchmarks we use to try and compare like-minded collectors (WWE to WWE, Marvel to Marvel, etc.) are so wildly varied that trying to cross compare unlike collections (WWE to Marvel) just makes a whole new batch of unequal measures. For my money (and I've never backed a collecting-adjacent crowdfund) as a former ML collector and current WWE collector, I think where Galactus was such a slam dunk was in the fact that if you baseline either demo to its core essence, they're both "action figure collectors". Galactus had been done before, but a) he's still a prominent character in the MU, and b) he could always be bigger. I think there's a lot to be said for the fact that HasLab's two big successful Marvel campaigns were character centric (Galactus and the Sentinel), but they fell short when they ventured into vehicles (Ghost Rider). Likewise, their other big property (star Wars) succeeded with vehicles complemented by figures (Jabba's Sail Barge and The Razorcrest), and failed when centered around characters/creatures (the Rancor). Star Wars also fell short with a ForceFX prop replica, but the Proton Pack (property with a huge prop replica following) nearly tripled its required backing. This is all a bit of a longwinded way to try and articulate that a Nitro stage serves a really niche segment of an already niche market. Everyone's mileage is going to vary, but as a wrestling figure collector, I display wrestling figures with wearable or holdable accessories. Anything beyond that is a struggle for space for me (specifically, I'm looking at my AEW shelf, for example, and wondering how I could better accommodate the Vanguard 1 & hologram Matt Hardy that came with his figure). Well this is where the Nitro stage comes in. It’s the perfect display area for Vanguard 1 and hologram Matt. You’re welcome. What
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 10, 2023 14:50:02 GMT -5
Dear Mr. I'm Too Good To Change or Switch the Tiers! This will be the last crowdfund I ever back for years! It's been a week now, and still no Hogan, I don't deserve it? I just cancelled all five backings, without Hulk it ain't worth it!
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Apr 10, 2023 14:53:48 GMT -5
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Apr 10, 2023 14:58:32 GMT -5
Dear Mr. I'm Too Good To Change or Switch the Tiers! This will be the last crowdfund I ever back for years! It's been a week now, and still no Hogan, I don't deserve it? I just cancelled all five backings, without Hulk it ain't worth it!
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