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Post by Chip on Apr 14, 2023 11:59:10 GMT -5
we need this thing to get to 11k
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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on Apr 14, 2023 12:00:27 GMT -5
Fuel that rocketship Warriors!!!
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 14, 2023 12:00:27 GMT -5
You know they say that all crowdfunds are created equal, but you look at me, and you look at HasLab Galactus, and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you need 5,000 backers to fund a project, you got a 50/50 chance of succeeding. But I'm a WCW Nitro Stage, and I'm not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at buy me. Then you add a Hulk Hogan repaint to the mix, your chances of succeeding drastic go down. See the deadline on May 6, you got a 33 1/3 chance of succeeding, but I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Ghost Rider KNOWS he can't beat me and he's not even gonna try! So Galactus, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of funding on May 6. But then you take my 75% chance of succeeding, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, I got 141 2/3 chance of funding on May 6. See Galactus, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you on May 6.
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Post by CMW Toys on Apr 14, 2023 12:05:29 GMT -5
Backed it
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 14, 2023 12:06:29 GMT -5
You know they say that all crowdfunds are created equal, but you look at me, and you look at HasLab Galactus, and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you need 5,000 backers to fund a project, you got a 50/50 chance of succeeding. But I'm a WCW Nitro Stage, and I'm not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at buy me. Then you add a Hulk Hogan repaint to the mix, your chances of succeeding drastic go down. See the deadline on May 6, you got a 33 1/3 chance of succeeding, but I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Ghost Rider KNOWS he can't beat me and he's not even gonna try! So Galactus, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of funding on May 6. But then you take my 75% chance of succeeding, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, I got 141 2/3 chance of funding on May 6. See Galactus, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you on May 6. Completely unrelated, but I'm watching all of TNA from the start and recently got to this. The crazy thing is the match that happens before this segment...is Cheerleader Melissa vs Daizee Haze completely cold with no rhyme or reason for happening.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Apr 14, 2023 12:07:20 GMT -5
I’m probably just gonna back later today Uncle Sam
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Post by raylancrowder on Apr 14, 2023 12:09:20 GMT -5
So with the updated changes, I was going to back it and buy one. I'm in Ireland and i seen that I get USD pricing, so it works out reasonably alright for me to purchase. Works out at $435. But then I twigged that when I chose "rest of the world" i didn't get the pop-up message telling me that all fees were covered. So is that not the case for the 'rest of the world'? It's confusing. I read this on their website, but according to this, even UK customers WILL be getting hit with customs fees (on top of a price that is supposed to include the fees?). It's confusing. From creations.mattel.com/pages/shipping-rates-policy it says: " All prices on the Mattel Creations are shown in U.S. dollars (USD) except in the following countries: Canada, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Japan. The price is exclusive of any shipping and processing charges (added during checkout), import duties, and taxes (assessed at Customs)." It's not really confusing for UK buyers. The £509 includes customs fees. It explicitly states when checking out "The total amount you pay includes all applicable customs duties & taxes. We guarantee no additional charges on delivery."
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Post by The Madness on Apr 14, 2023 12:09:34 GMT -5
Not a scalper, but what u think each fig would go for on the resell markef if we reach all? Scalp all these sets you think you can. That’s how it gets made.
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Post by originaloutsider on Apr 14, 2023 12:12:05 GMT -5
great choice, I think it'll now get backed by the end date.
if you're selling your stage lmk.
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Post by stc13 on Apr 14, 2023 12:13:11 GMT -5
Really hope this tips the scale for more folks to jump in. And kudos to Steve and team for the pivot - I'm sure that's not the easiest thing to pull off in a large company.
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Post by Lil hulkster on Apr 14, 2023 12:20:38 GMT -5
Don't give in! It wasn't worth $400 with one figure and it's still not worth $400 with 2 figures. Sure, it's a Scott Steiner, but guess what... there will be more Scott Steiner's down the line. Wait until they announce all the figures will be included if it hits 5K backer. Mattel is still trying to get away with giving us the least and maxing us out. HOLD THE LINE! You're probably from ape club at AMC
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Post by stc13 on Apr 14, 2023 12:23:03 GMT -5
Not a scalper, but what u think each fig would go for on the resell markef if we reach all? Scalp all these sets you think you can. That’s how it gets made. We had this conversation during the New Gen set. I really don't see buying to resell as "scalping" in this case. The product is made to order and everyone has an equal opportunity to buy over a pretty long period of time (international costs aside). Very different, imo, than the guy standing outside Walmart at 7am who scoops up 3 cases of store exclusives to resell online or at a show and depriving other collectors of a chance to own the figures. Everybody has a chance to own these if they so desire. That said, based on the New Gen set, I think $100 is the floor. I'd expect closer to $125-150, depending on the production run. We know there were a lot of people buying multiple New Gen stages to resell. I don't think you'll see nearly as many resellers on this product, unless we get up to the 9k+ tiers. Lower production and lower secondary market volume should make these figures more difficult to find on the secondary market than the New Gen set.
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 14, 2023 12:23:37 GMT -5
22 extra backers in almost an hour and a half after the change
Either it’s gonna be all in on the final day or this just simply will not get backed
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Post by stc13 on Apr 14, 2023 12:24:39 GMT -5
22 extra backers in almost an hour and a half after the change Either it’s gonna be all in on the final day or this just simply will not get backed It's also mid-day on a Friday in the states. Not everyone is glued to forums or social media this time of day.
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Post by HooliganPunx24 on Apr 14, 2023 12:25:55 GMT -5
22 extra backers in almost an hour and a half after the change Either it’s gonna be all in on the final day or this just simply will not get backed There's no rush so we'll probably see jumps here and there. I'm waiting on my tax return and trying to buy a car so I won't be backing for another week or two
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Post by shawnscga on Apr 14, 2023 12:28:21 GMT -5
Ok, this thing needs to get backed now
We have 21 days, we need about 150 backers a day, hopefully we will get a good chunk today, they listened and I’m happy they did, I’ll be backing 2 this evening, I hope others are with me
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Post by gwildor on Apr 14, 2023 12:29:57 GMT -5
22 extra backers in almost an hour and a half after the change Either it’s gonna be all in on the final day or this just simply will not get backed There's no rush so we'll probably see jumps here and there. I'm waiting on my tax return and trying to buy a car so I won't be backing for another week or two It doesn’t charge you right away anyhow. So I mean you could literally back it today.
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 14, 2023 12:34:14 GMT -5
22 extra backers in almost an hour and a half after the change Either it’s gonna be all in on the final day or this just simply will not get backed It's also mid-day on a Friday in the states. Not everyone is glued to forums or social media this time of day. True but we’ve had a few days of knowing the change is coming and it had a countdown on Steve’s Instagram
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Post by jokerjohn on Apr 14, 2023 12:44:11 GMT -5
As someone stated before we have shipping and taxes on top of that. I actually added one to my cart to see the final total and it was just over $800 to ship to Toronto Ontario. Do I think the $400 price is worth it? Yes but now you're asking me to pay double that for an awesome stage and maybe two figures. It's an unfortunate situation but it has to be hurting the numbers. The price you pay on Mattel Creation is with taxes/customs included. You don't have to add some more money on that total. I don't know how to post pictures on here but I can definitely tell you the price breakdown of what I'm paying Subtotal $695 Shipping $13.00 Taxes $90.35 Total $798.35
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Post by shawnscga on Apr 14, 2023 12:45:53 GMT -5
Scalp all these sets you think you can. That’s how it gets made. We had this conversation during the New Gen set. I really don't see buying to resell as "scalping" in this case. The product is made to order and everyone has an equal opportunity to buy over a pretty long period of time (international costs aside). Very different, imo, than the guy standing outside Walmart at 7am who scoops up 3 cases of store exclusives to resell online or at a show and depriving other collectors of a chance to own the figures. Everybody has a chance to own these if they so desire. That said, based on the New Gen set, I think $100 is the floor. I'd expect closer to $125-150, depending on the production run. We know there were a lot of people buying multiple New Gen stages to resell. I don't think you'll see nearly as many resellers on this product, unless we get up to the 9k+ tiers. Lower production and lower secondary market volume should make these figures more difficult to find on the secondary market than the New Gen set. Here’s the weird part about that Your 100% right, but the lesser resell availability the more demand, if this only reaches 5,000 and there is no big poppa pump elite by the time this releases, I see the prices on the resell market going through the roof, anyone who wants the stage will probably be willing to spend at least $250-$300, ray since there will only be 5,000 made will probably be about a $100 figure, but Steiner is where this all tips in everyone’s favor, he will be $150 maybe even at the beginning $200, I mean for a week or so Bret UE that just got released at target was going for $150+ from the guys who found it first in New Jersey, I’m sure Steiner will reach that and beyond for a while, that’s already a good profit on the set, and you could sell these individually and keep what you want for a fraction of the price, don’t care about Steiner and ray? Sell them and keep the stage for only around $100 spending after all set and done, want them all but don’t want to spend $400? buy two, sell one set individually and keep the 2nd one and only spend about $200 for the entire set, The more this gets backed the less value it will have, but the way its looking I’m not sure how much passed 5k it will get which is great for resell value
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