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Post by The Assassin on Mar 29, 2023 5:29:22 GMT -5
If you're a US customer, price is $400 USD - which converts to £324 GBP
If you're a UK customer, price is £500 GBP - which converts to $617 USD.
Plus £9 shipping including customs, apparently. So £509 GBP total - which converts to $629 USD.
Really wish they would break down into the actual cost for item, shipping and customs charges. Because I've been buying international for over 20 years and there is no way the shipping and customs on this thing are only £9. Equally I can't believe the shipping and customs are costing them $229.
Just seems so unfair. Mattel is one of the biggest toy companies in the world, surely they can utilize their UK/European warehouses/distributors/etc somehow to get that price difference down.
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Post by CMW Toys on Mar 29, 2023 5:34:13 GMT -5
I didn't think it would be possible to be robbed of more money than ebays global shipping programme takes for their service...
Mattel sure showed me!
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Post by stc13 on Mar 29, 2023 6:25:23 GMT -5
Really hoping we can at least get an explanation from Steve. I'm sure logistics, shipping and customs adds cost for international collectors. But this sounds absurd.
Hoping for a positive resolution for our UK pals. This project needs all the support it can get.
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Post by Warriah' on Mar 29, 2023 6:37:58 GMT -5
Really hoping we can at least get an explanation from Steve. I'm sure logistics, shipping and customs adds cost for international collectors. But this sounds absurd. Hoping for a positive resolution for our UK pals. This project needs all the support it can get. Price including customs, but excluding shipping should be £390. That is the break down.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Mar 29, 2023 6:54:36 GMT -5
I’ve seen that the New Gen crowdfund payment got changed to once it was backed?
I backed two.. one on debit and one on credit and it immediately charged each card and the charge stuck.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Mar 29, 2023 7:02:36 GMT -5
I’m really struggling with this one, I want it…but I don’t want it. $400 is steep. Other than Steiner and DDP the figure choices are weak. It’s funny to think Warrior was in WCW for three months and this is his second Ultimate from that time period.
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Post by jokerjohn on Mar 29, 2023 7:06:19 GMT -5
I do. People talk a big game but at the end of the day they’re gonna begrudgingly buy it. Plus you’re probably gonna have Steve and Rob making the rounds on all the podcasts and YouTube shows selling the hell out of this making sure we reach the finish line. I think we very easily lose sight of the fact that this community is a very small slice of the pie. There's the Major crowd, many of whom only engage in those groups (I don't, so no clue what the reaction is there), and a lot of people who collect casually and never set foot into these online spaces. There are going to be collectors who never even knew the Amazon Hogan existed and will jump all over a WCW Hogan. The question is how effectively Mattel can reach those crowds or other casual buyers. I think a WM season reveal definitely gives them the best chance of getting in front of those eyeballs. And the structure sure makes it seem like they feel pretty confident about getting to around 8k and hoping Warrior and Steiner pull them higher. We'll see how effective the marketing is. We'll see how accurate their internal projections are. But I don't think any of these goals are wild when you look at the numbers other projects have done. They definitely need to step up thier game with marketing this time which they said Macho took up a lot of the budget for. The key this time is to get this plastered all over WWE television because that's where you'll get most of your normies and casuals who aren't involved with the online space.
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Post by theforce1727 on Mar 29, 2023 7:14:01 GMT -5
I apparently only post when there’s a crowdfund lol. The value is definitely there. I backed multiple New Gen sets, and when I just sold off one of each figure I got more than $100 a piece. So if this Nitro set fetches $100 per figure at the least, it’s still a big win IMO. Now I won’t be able to back two, but I’m in for one.
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Post by kanepilk on Mar 29, 2023 7:30:33 GMT -5
I am not a big enough WCW fan to justify it. However, over the last 24 hours or so I was thinking it's not particularly bad value, and it could make for a good base stage for a generic entrance etc. but then I read the above posts and decided to check out the pricing. I knew, being in Ireland, I'd be robbed, but it's coming in around €570 with shipping, I believe (about $620 USD or £500 GBP).
I can't justify that. I assumed I'd pay around €450-460 at most and even that was hard to sell myself on, unfortunately.
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Post by stc13 on Mar 29, 2023 8:07:29 GMT -5
I apparently only post when there’s a crowdfund lol. The value is definitely there. I backed multiple New Gen sets, and when I just sold off one of each figure I got more than $100 a piece. So if this Nitro set fetches $100 per figure at the least, it’s still a big win IMO. Now I won’t be able to back two, but I’m in for one. Yeah, the value is absolutely there. I'd argue the stage itself is a $300-400 item itself based on the price of similar crowd funded campaigns. Even if the Hogan isn't the most exciting, it'll be a limited run piece of a highly collected wrestler. Mysterio's career is winding down and it's impossible to say if he'll be available to Mattel beyond that. DDP is a guy who really only had 2 memorable looks. I think that figure holds long term value. I'm probably only buying 1 this time. But if people are only interested in select items, you can probably recoup a decent chunk of the cost.
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Post by theforce1727 on Mar 29, 2023 8:12:06 GMT -5
I apparently only post when there’s a crowdfund lol. The value is definitely there. I backed multiple New Gen sets, and when I just sold off one of each figure I got more than $100 a piece. So if this Nitro set fetches $100 per figure at the least, it’s still a big win IMO. Now I won’t be able to back two, but I’m in for one. Yeah, the value is absolutely there. I'd argue the stage itself is a $300-400 item itself based on the price of similar crowd funded campaigns. Even if the Hogan isn't the most exciting, it'll be a limited run piece of a highly collected wrestler. Mysterio's career is winding down and it's impossible to say if he'll be available to Mattel beyond that. DDP is a guy who really only had 2 memorable looks. I think that figure holds long term value. I'm probably only buying 1 this time. But if people are only interested in select items, you can probably recoup a decent chunk of the cost. The one thing that made me 50/50 at first was the size (that’s what she said). I have an entire room for my collection and I’m having a really hard time figuring out how it could be displayed. I do think you’re right about the stage. I could see 10-15 years from now it being on display at a toy shop for $750 or something. It’s gonna be epic if it does get backed.
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Post by judas on Mar 29, 2023 8:21:53 GMT -5
£500+ lol. Errrr nope.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Mar 29, 2023 8:23:32 GMT -5
I’m hoping we get a cheap WCW Saturday Night entrance 3 pack like they did with the RAW entrance. Give us US Champ Stunning Steve, Cactus Jack, and International champion Rick Rude
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Mar 29, 2023 8:29:33 GMT -5
I’m hoping we get a cheap WCW Saturday Night entrance 3 pack like they did with the RAW entrance. Give us US Champ Stunning Steve, Cactus Jack, and International champion Rick Rude ECW would be an easy cheap entrance too. Figs could be Superstar Steve Austin, Paul E, RVD.
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Post by teammadness on Mar 29, 2023 8:43:26 GMT -5
I hate that warrior. There is 0 chance it gets funded to unlock the warrior so it is what it is.
With that being said, the value is definitely there! The stage is incredible and Hogan, Rey, DDP and Steiner look really good. Ill definitely be purchasing 2 and would have gotten more if I didnt have my wedding coming in june. If you have the funds and are on the fence, back this!!! If you piece it out and sell off what you dont want, you will recoup all of your funds...plus some.
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Mar 29, 2023 8:43:57 GMT -5
I’m hoping we get a cheap WCW Saturday Night entrance 3 pack like they did with the RAW entrance. Give us US Champ Stunning Steve, Cactus Jack, and International champion Rick Rude Hey, quit stealing my dreams!
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Post by ajay182 on Mar 29, 2023 9:00:57 GMT -5
I apparently only post when there’s a crowdfund lol. The value is definitely there. I backed multiple New Gen sets, and when I just sold off one of each figure I got more than $100 a piece. So if this Nitro set fetches $100 per figure at the least, it’s still a big win IMO. Now I won’t be able to back two, but I’m in for one. Yeah, the value is absolutely there. I'd argue the stage itself is a $300-400 item itself based on the price of similar crowd funded campaigns. Even if the Hogan isn't the most exciting, it'll be a limited run piece of a highly collected wrestler. Mysterio's career is winding down and it's impossible to say if he'll be available to Mattel beyond that. DDP is a guy who really only had 2 memorable looks. I think that figure holds long term value. I'm probably only buying 1 this time. But if people are only interested in select items, you can probably recoup a decent chunk of the cost. The value is there but it's wrapped up in chance. The likelihood of 5k backers in 9 days, at this price point, is quite low. Which means it becomes $400 for the arena and Rey, whilst fingers stay crossed for DDP. The value argument falls short for me as can only be deemed good value if you have reasonable control over what you actually receive.
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Post by stc13 on Mar 29, 2023 9:09:09 GMT -5
Yeah, the value is absolutely there. I'd argue the stage itself is a $300-400 item itself based on the price of similar crowd funded campaigns. Even if the Hogan isn't the most exciting, it'll be a limited run piece of a highly collected wrestler. Mysterio's career is winding down and it's impossible to say if he'll be available to Mattel beyond that. DDP is a guy who really only had 2 memorable looks. I think that figure holds long term value. I'm probably only buying 1 this time. But if people are only interested in select items, you can probably recoup a decent chunk of the cost. The one thing that made me 50/50 at first was the size (that’s what she said). I have an entire room for my collection and I’m having a really hard time figuring out how it could be displayed. I do think you’re right about the stage. I could see 10-15 years from now it being on display at a toy shop for $750 or something. It’s gonna be epic if it does get backed. Yeah, I don't plan to have mine on permanent display. I'll probably put it up a few times a year and rotate displays between the New Gen stage, this, and some other custom pieces I have. I look at it the same way as a Christmas tree. I'm not expecting it to be out all year. That hasn't stopped us from spending way more than the cost of this set on a tree and ornaments.
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Post by stc13 on Mar 29, 2023 9:15:01 GMT -5
Yeah, the value is absolutely there. I'd argue the stage itself is a $300-400 item itself based on the price of similar crowd funded campaigns. Even if the Hogan isn't the most exciting, it'll be a limited run piece of a highly collected wrestler. Mysterio's career is winding down and it's impossible to say if he'll be available to Mattel beyond that. DDP is a guy who really only had 2 memorable looks. I think that figure holds long term value. I'm probably only buying 1 this time. But if people are only interested in select items, you can probably recoup a decent chunk of the cost. The value is there but it's wrapped up in chance. The likelihood of 5k backers in 9 days, at this price point, is quite low. Which means it becomes $400 for the arena and Rey, whilst fingers stay crossed for DDP. The value argument falls short for me as can only be deemed good value if you have reasonable control over what you actually receive. People can cancel their order at any time before the backing period closes. So there's literally zero risk in backing early. That said, the item is the stage itself. I think people are putting way too much emphasis on the figures. Nobody bought Galactus for the Silver Surfer fig or the HISS tank for Cobra Commander. The figures are meant to be a value add, not the central focus of the project.
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Post by Warriah' on Mar 29, 2023 9:18:35 GMT -5
This thing will absolutely struggle to get backing let alone hit any stretch goals if they do not fix the arbitrary price gauging for people overseas.
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