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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Mar 29, 2023 13:23:46 GMT -5
What is the magic number do we think where it looks like it will be funded? After 1 week what would we Expect? 2,500 (I.e. 50% there)? 3,000 (just a bit over 50%) etc? I know there’s a lot on here who’ve done a few crowd funds from different brands - whats an average / good measure for a week in? (A week feels like it’d be a good time to allow for pay days etc and to get an idea of progress) It needs to be at 5K before 4/7. If Hogan isn’t included then people will start canceling orders. Negativity will spread and the campaign will have a long slow death.
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Post by burtgummer on Mar 29, 2023 13:27:34 GMT -5
Once this first week ends and if it isn’t at 5k, ppl will begin to cancel who wanted the Hogan, and I doubt many more will back it unless something else is added.
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Post by Warriah' on Mar 29, 2023 13:30:29 GMT -5
An hour and a half in it has 618 backers +73 from half an hour ago 2 hours it has 664 backers +46 from half an hour ago Slowed right down significantly every half an hour. I wonder where it’d be if they hadn’t ed up the price for non Americans? 2 and a half hours in it has 709 backers + 45 from half an hour ago
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Mar 29, 2023 13:30:45 GMT -5
What is the magic number do we think where it looks like it will be funded? After 1 week what would we Expect? 2,500 (I.e. 50% there)? 3,000 (just a bit over 50%) etc? I know there’s a lot on here who’ve done a few crowd funds from different brands - whats an average / good measure for a week in? That’s a tough call big dog, most crowdfunds Hasbro does these days (the successful ones) get several thousand backers first few days. And they typically always reach final tier. The prices sometimes are higher then $400 too. However, I’ve noticed the WWF fans are a little more hesitant to drop big money on these things. I’d say if after a week we are between 3,300-3,600 after a full week we are good I think part of it might be the demographic. I notice that Marvel fans for example are willing to drop more on figures on the secondary market as opposed to someone who collects WWE figures. WWE collectors in general tend to be cheap. Not trying to offend anyone who can't afford expensive figures. I've seen Marvel collectors drop money on figures that are half-assed like 90 percent of the time and are overpriced. It's kind of weird because some people (WWE collectors) are happy to pay a lot more money for preorder figures, especially if you order full sets. It's a bit confusing. I really want this to be made and all the tiers to be unlocked, so I'll be backing this up even if I have to sell off a few things I'm not currently using.
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Post by figvegas on Mar 29, 2023 13:36:45 GMT -5
As Steve said, the creations FAQ has been updated to show the price breakdown for all none US countries. Still struggling to fill the Gaia though. It states RRP for UK is £440 - VAT added only gets to £390 so other £50 for customs? I could live with that after getting a £60 charge for the new gen. I’d be raging mind if got a customs fee on top?
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Mar 29, 2023 13:40:53 GMT -5
It’s rumored Vince bought WCW for $2 million 5,000 sets at $400 is $2 million We could’ve ing bought WCW
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Post by figvegas on Mar 29, 2023 13:40:54 GMT -5
As Steve said, the creations FAQ has been updated to show the price breakdown for all none US countries. Still struggling to fill the Gaia though. It states RRP for UK is £440 - VAT added only gets to £390 so other £50 for customs? I could live with that after getting a £60 charge for the new gen. I’d be raging mind if got a customs fee on top? Seems not: International Terms & Conditions Please carefully read the following terms and conditions concerning international orders with Mattel Creations. All prices on the Mattel Creations are shown in U.S. dollars (USD) except in the following countries: Canada, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Japan. The price is exclusive of any shipping and processing charges (added during checkout), import duties, and taxes (assessed at Customs). Any order being shipped to a destination outside of the United States may be subject to incremental import duties and taxes. Custom and tariff fees may apply according to your country's import laws. These fees are not collected by Mattel, and Mattel does not have control of these fees. When placing an order on one of Mattel’s Family of Brands sites, you are considered the importer of record and must comply with all applicable laws and regulations. Charges for duties, taxes, and the carrier's collection fee are in addition to your shipping charge and must be paid by you.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Mar 29, 2023 13:41:17 GMT -5
Okay, so mine comes out at about $440 w shipping and taxes. I thought it was going to be about $480. Anyone have any coupon codes??? 😎
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Post by stc13 on Mar 29, 2023 13:41:25 GMT -5
That’s a tough call big dog, most crowdfunds Hasbro does these days (the successful ones) get several thousand backers first few days. And they typically always reach final tier. The prices sometimes are higher then $400 too. However, I’ve noticed the WWF fans are a little more hesitant to drop big money on these things. I’d say if after a week we are between 3,300-3,600 after a full week we are good I think part of it might be the demographic. I notice that Marvel fans for example are willing to drop more on figures on the secondary market as opposed to someone who collects WWE figures. WWE collectors in general tend to be cheap. Not trying to offend anyone who can't afford expensive figures. I've seen Marvel collectors drop money on figures that are half-assed like 90 percent of the time and are overpriced. It's kind of weird because some people (WWE collectors) are happy to pay a lot more money for preorder figures, especially if you order full sets. It's a bit confusing. I really want this to be made and all the tiers to be unlocked, so I'll be backing this up even if I have to sell off a few things I'm not currently using. The stigma around wrestling for decades has been that its fans are generally in lower income demographics. That dictates what advertisers advertise during the shows and how expensive those ad slots are. Wrestling is a niche product compared to Star Wars or Marvel, and it's a safe bet that there's less wealth within the collecting community than other brands. I think it's a great project, and I'm sure Mattel's tiers are informed by their own market research and sales data on the line. I think it's at least realistic that we could hit all tiers. But yeah, it's going to be an uphill climb compared to what Haslab projects see.
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Post by matgarza5 on Mar 29, 2023 13:41:27 GMT -5
What is the magic number do we think where it looks like it will be funded? After 1 week what would we Expect? 2,500 (I.e. 50% there)? 3,000 (just a bit over 50%) etc? I know there’s a lot on here who’ve done a few crowd funds from different brands - whats an average / good measure for a week in? (A week feels like it’d be a good time to allow for pay days etc and to get an idea of progress) It needs to be at 5K before 4/7. If Hogan isn’t included then people will start canceling orders. Negativity will spread and the campaign will have a long slow death. Yes this is true, however I think he meant a week from start of campaign which is the 5th which is few days before early bird deadline and we may get a spike that will cross that 5K if we are around 3,500 at that time because people are waiting till that deadline and FOMO kicks in
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Post by newgenandy on Mar 29, 2023 13:43:54 GMT -5
That’s a tough call big dog, most crowdfunds Hasbro does these days (the successful ones) get several thousand backers first few days. And they typically always reach final tier. The prices sometimes are higher then $400 too. However, I’ve noticed the WWF fans are a little more hesitant to drop big money on these things. I’d say if after a week we are between 3,300-3,600 after a full week we are good I think part of it might be the demographic. I notice that Marvel fans for example are willing to drop more on figures on the secondary market as opposed to someone who collects WWE figures. WWE collectors in general tend to be cheap. Not trying to offend anyone who can't afford expensive figures. I've seen Marvel collectors drop money on figures that are half-assed like 90 percent of the time and are overpriced. It's kind of weird because some people (WWE collectors) are happy to pay a lot more money for preorder figures, especially if you order full sets. It's a bit confusing. I really want this to be made and all the tiers to be unlocked, so I'll be backing this up even if I have to sell off a few things I'm not currently using. See this is the thing I can’t reconcile because people will spend $200 on a figure that was rrp $40 but think $400 for a literally HUGE set is not worth it. Not saying that’s right or wrong, it’s up to people to decide how to spend their money and more power to them but I personally just don’t understand it. But as I say each to their own
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Post by newgenandy on Mar 29, 2023 13:44:17 GMT -5
It’s rumored Vince bought WCW for $2 million 5,000 sets at $400 is $2 million We could’ve ing bought WCW love it 😆
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Post by Mongo Bears on Mar 29, 2023 13:44:26 GMT -5
I love this. I haven’t backed it yet but I will be on it soon!
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Post by Warriah' on Mar 29, 2023 13:44:45 GMT -5
It needs to be at 5K before 4/7. If Hogan isn’t included then people will start canceling orders. Negativity will spread and the campaign will have a long slow death. Yes this is true, however I think he meant a week from start of campaign which is the 5th which is few days before early bird deadline and we may get a spike that will cross that 5K if we are around 3,500 at that time because people are waiting till that deadline and FOMO kicks in If they hit 5k by the Hogan deadline then everybody is safe til the final day so the project will likely stagnate until then
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Mar 29, 2023 13:45:01 GMT -5
That’s a tough call big dog, most crowdfunds Hasbro does these days (the successful ones) get several thousand backers first few days. And they typically always reach final tier. The prices sometimes are higher than $400 too. However, I’ve noticed the WWF fans are a little more hesitant to drop big money on these things. I’d say if after a week we are between 3,300-3,600 after a full week we are good I think part of it might be the demographic. I notice that Marvel fans for example are willing to drop more on figures on the secondary market as opposed to someone who collects WWE figures. WWE collectors in general tend to be cheap. Not trying to offend anyone who can't afford expensive figures. I've seen Marvel collectors drop money on figures that are half-assed like 90 percent of the time and are overpriced. It's kind of weird because some people (WWE collectors) are happy to pay a lot more money for preorder figures, especially if you order full sets. It's a bit confusing. I really want this to be made and all the tiers to be unlocked, so I'll be backing this up even if I have to sell off a few things I'm not currently using. I think with Marvel and Joe they’re filling holes in collections. People want a giant Galactus and Sentinel. Vehicles were a major part of the Joe line. They were just as important as the figs themselves. Collectors are willing to open their wallets for these things. With wrestling, for the most part, we’re satisfied with just the figures. Arenas, rings, stages, etc aren’t really big gaps in our collections. That’s the same with Hasbro’s failed campaigns. A modern day Ghost Rider and a car wasn’t really filling a gap in collections. Definitely not at that price point. Rancor was a weird one cuz I do think it’s something collectors wanted but they just botched the campaign and had the fanbase turn on them and refused to support it out of spite.
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Post by slimjim23 on Mar 29, 2023 13:46:56 GMT -5
So how many people will back out if it doesn’t look like Steiner will be reached? Or does Mattel give in once it reaches 5k and releases every figure
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Post by Grenouille on Mar 29, 2023 13:47:34 GMT -5
I’m in on this and see it as having value for the price compared to the last Marvel Legends crowdfund (Ghost Rider car) that failed miserably.
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Post by newgenandy on Mar 29, 2023 13:48:28 GMT -5
I think part of it might be the demographic. I notice that Marvel fans for example are willing to drop more on figures on the secondary market as opposed to someone who collects WWE figures. WWE collectors in general tend to be cheap. Not trying to offend anyone who can't afford expensive figures. I've seen Marvel collectors drop money on figures that are half-assed like 90 percent of the time and are overpriced. It's kind of weird because some people (WWE collectors) are happy to pay a lot more money for preorder figures, especially if you order full sets. It's a bit confusing. I really want this to be made and all the tiers to be unlocked, so I'll be backing this up even if I have to sell off a few things I'm not currently using. The stigma around wrestling for decades has been that its fans are generally in lower income demographics. That dictates what advertisers advertise during the shows and how expensive those ad slots are. Wrestling is a niche product compared to Star Wars or Marvel, and it's a safe bet that there's less wealth within the collecting community than other brands. I think it's a great project, and I'm sure Mattel's tiers are informed by their own market research and sales data on the line. I think it's at least realistic that we could hit all tiers. But yeah, it's going to be an uphill climb compared to what Haslab projects see. There’s also a “I liked wrestling but grew out of it” mentality v “I love Star Wars, I’ve grown up with it” - wrestling has as you say always been seen as “lower class” blue collar. There’s stories of people not wanting wrestling in their arenas - I believe Herb Abrahams UWF (not the REAL UWF) had their first show cancelled because the venue owner didn’t want wrestling in their venue and was unhappy the venue Booker booked a wrestling show.
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Post by Warriah' on Mar 29, 2023 13:48:41 GMT -5
As Steve said, the creations FAQ has been updated to show the price breakdown for all none US countries. Still struggling to fill the Gaia though. It states RRP for UK is £440 - VAT added only gets to £390 so other £50 for customs? I could live with that after getting a £60 charge for the new gen. I’d be raging mind if got a customs fee on top? If this price isn’t an error and they’re genuinely adding ridiculous surcharges then they should go back to how it was done before. Everybody here would rather pay the £65 and a £15 handling fee when this ships than pay £175 in customs on top of the £325 entrance now.
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Post by stc13 on Mar 29, 2023 13:49:46 GMT -5
Yes this is true, however I think he meant a week from start of campaign which is the 5th which is few days before early bird deadline and we may get a spike that will cross that 5K if we are around 3,500 at that time because people are waiting till that deadline and FOMO kicks in If they hit 5k by the Hogan deadline then everybody is safe til the final day so the project will likely stagnate until then I think we'll see a slow, steady trickle of orders with surges around the stretch tiers. But hitting the Hogan early bird is pretty critical.
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