Figure Nova
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Post by Figure Nova on Mar 27, 2023 17:57:27 GMT -5
I love the set. My only gripes are that Steiner's goatee is inaccurate and DDP's attire choice is lame...Why not go for the jeans and rib tape that everyone has been clamoring for? Also, it seems a set like this is an opportunity to get a more obscure guy out as an Ultimate, who wouldn't make it in the regular line (like Doink was in the New Gen set). I guess that could be said about the Warrior in jeans, and while I love that choice, a lower card guy (or non-wrestler like Bischoff) would've been nice. And why not include parts for a Nitro ring? I hope that's not a separately released ring, because I'm not going to feel like dropping another hundred plus after already spending so much on the arena. I personally think a WCW “jeans and duster” Warrior would’ve been a nice addition to the Legends line, and the Suit Warrior could’ve been a BAF. |
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 27, 2023 18:02:33 GMT -5
Totally backing this but yeah wish we had Hall and Nash debut. really wish the Stinger was available also. Yeah, I'm really surprised that Hall didn't make it. This look from Nash and Hall would have been great, maybe with their wrestling gear underneath. And, I'd imagine that Sting would have been a part of the set if he were still signed, either Surfer or Crow sting would have worked. /cdn.vox-cdn.com/imported_assets/1077125/Nwo-outsiders.jpg) |
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ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Mar 27, 2023 18:05:45 GMT -5
I think the value is probably there IF everything is unlocked. Exclusive UE's are usually more than retail price, but $32.99 + tax is what most of us would spend if we went to Target and bought one. I'll round that to $35 per figure just for this case. $175 worth of UEs, so $225 for the stage. If we saw that stage alone for $225, I think people would see the value in that. Its huge, it looks extremely detailed, and all of the LED lights are really impressive. I'd say there's a good chance I'd cough up $225 for that and I'm sure there's a lot of people that would do the same. But $400 for a toy set still causes some sticker shock. Its not even that the value isn't there but that's just quite a sum of money for most people. But the point is they are charging 400 up front without the figures, and who's to say the figures tiers will get reached? What if only Hogan and Rey ends up being only figures reached , is it still worth 400 dollars? First sentence again |
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Post by The People's Poet on Mar 27, 2023 18:09:03 GMT -5
If it were me, I would have added Lex Luger - considering he returned to WCW on the first Nitro.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Mar 27, 2023 18:14:17 GMT -5
if Hogan is backed by 4/7 he will be available for everyone who backs it Even backers after 4/7? |
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Post by RybackV1 on Mar 27, 2023 18:22:26 GMT -5
if Hogan is backed by 4/7 he will be available for everyone who backs it Even backers after 4/7? Yes but only if it hits 5k by 4/7 |
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Mar 27, 2023 18:22:35 GMT -5
if Hogan is backed by 4/7 he will be available for everyone who backs it Even backers after 4/7? yup. Steve confirmed it |
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Post by RSCTom on Mar 27, 2023 18:24:57 GMT -5
One thing I've seen going around that I am not ok with whatsoever is the encouragement of others using payment plans or loan companies to possibly purchase this or any other crowdfunded/high ticket item that someone can't necessarily afford all so others who can more easily afford this will feel good about having the tiers hit.
No one should be telling others to do this, especially someone who might be more vulnerable or influenced. It is not ok.
If you can't afford something and feel disappointed/unhappy about it that's totally fine and you're allowed to state it here or anywhere. Please don't let anyone's suggestion of something you truly can't afford put you in a position where it costs you in your life beyond toy collecting.
I am not ok with treating this fandom or community like a gambling ring and it already happens too often with secondary market transactions as it is. I'd appreciate not seeing this suggestion made anywhere on this board in the future and to the folks who are making this suggestion, think twice about what you're actually saying to someone before you say it. Ultimately everyone's decision is their own but we will have no part of it here and I definitely won't tolerate it being the norm here.
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Post by cableV on Mar 27, 2023 18:25:18 GMT -5
Bold move on Mattel's part to roll out a $400 set without showing everything that's included with the figures. At least lets see some renders of the extra heads, hands, accessories and samples of the soft goods. (and that one Hogan bandana doesn't look close to being completely painted). Hopefully we see most of those things over WM weekend.
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Post by ajay182 on Mar 27, 2023 18:25:31 GMT -5
Totally backing this but yeah wish we had Hall and Nash debut. really wish the Stinger was available also. Yeah, I'm really surprised that Hall didn't make it. This look from Nash and Hall would have been great, maybe with their wrestling gear underneath. And, I'd imagine that Sting would have been a part of the set if he were still signed, either Surfer or Crow sting would have worked. When asked in his IG comments, Steve said "patience" with regard to these two - assume they're planned for another line. Maybe exclusives with a Nitro ring in future or something. |
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Post by TheFallen on Mar 27, 2023 18:26:25 GMT -5
$400 for a dead promotion is a hard sell.
$4.82 for every week Nitro was the number 1 wrestling show.
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Mar 27, 2023 18:34:54 GMT -5
One thing I've seen going around that I am not ok with whatsoever is the encouragement of others using payment plans or loan companies to possibly purchase this or any other crowdfunded/high ticket item that someone can't necessarily afford all so others who can more easily afford this will feel good about having the tiers hit. No one should be telling others to do this, especially someone who might be more vulnerable or influenced. It is not ok. If you can't afford something and feel disappointed/unhappy about it that's totally fine and you're allowed to state it here or anywhere. Please don't let anyone's suggestion of something you truly can't afford put you in a position where it costs you in your life beyond toy collecting. I am not ok with treating this fandom or community like a gambling ring and it already happens too often with secondary market transactions as it is. I'd appreciate not seeing this suggestion made anywhere on this board in the future and to the folks who are making this suggestion, think twice about what you're actually saying to someone before you say it. Ultimately everyone's decision is their own but we will have no part of it here and I definitely won't tolerate it being the norm here. We saw this last time with the New Gen ring as well. Hell, I even saw YouTubers try and subtly pressure their audience to 🎶 cross the line🎶 and back it |
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Post by RSCTom on Mar 27, 2023 18:37:20 GMT -5
One thing I've seen going around that I am not ok with whatsoever is the encouragement of others using payment plans or loan companies to possibly purchase this or any other crowdfunded/high ticket item that someone can't necessarily afford all so others who can more easily afford this will feel good about having the tiers hit. No one should be telling others to do this, especially someone who might be more vulnerable or influenced. It is not ok. If you can't afford something and feel disappointed/unhappy about it that's totally fine and you're allowed to state it here or anywhere. Please don't let anyone's suggestion of something you truly can't afford put you in a position where it costs you in your life beyond toy collecting. I am not ok with treating this fandom or community like a gambling ring and it already happens too often with secondary market transactions as it is. I'd appreciate not seeing this suggestion made anywhere on this board in the future and to the folks who are making this suggestion, think twice about what you're actually saying to someone before you say it. Ultimately everyone's decision is their own but we will have no part of it here and I definitely won't tolerate it being the norm here. We saw this last time with the New Gen ring as well. Hell, I even saw YouTubers try and subtly pressure their audience to 🎶 cross the line🎶 and back it I am fine with people encouraging backing. That's what the idea of an influencer is for, that's fine. No one should be encouraging anyone to ruin their credit or put themselves into debt over action figures. Anyone who can't afford this shouldn't be guilted into figuring out a way to do it if they can't do it. End of story. |
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Mar 27, 2023 18:40:54 GMT -5
We saw this last time with the New Gen ring as well. Hell, I even saw YouTubers try and subtly pressure their audience to 🎶 cross the line🎶 and back it I am fine with people encouraging backing. That's what the idea of an influencer is for, that's fine. No one should be encouraging anyone to ruin their credit or put themselves into debt over action figures. Anyone who can't afford this shouldn't be guilted into figuring out a way to do it if they can't do it. End of story. I agree, but doing so by guilting or putting pressure on impressionable people to back something they may not be interested or can afford is scummy as hell, regardless of whether or not they have a following on YouTube |
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Mar 27, 2023 18:45:50 GMT -5
I am fine with people encouraging backing. That's what the idea of an influencer is for, that's fine. No one should be encouraging anyone to ruin their credit or put themselves into debt over action figures. Anyone who can't afford this shouldn't be guilted into figuring out a way to do it if they can't do it. End of story. I agree, but doing so by guilting or putting pressure on impressionable people to back something they may not be interested or can afford is scummy as hell, regardless of whether or not they have a following on YouTube Reading the comments on the specific influencer you referenced, it's obvious his audience is primarily children. I totally get what you're saying. |
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Mar 27, 2023 18:54:25 GMT -5
One thing I've seen going around that I am not ok with whatsoever is the encouragement of others using payment plans or loan companies to possibly purchase this or any other crowdfunded/high ticket item that someone can't necessarily afford all so others who can more easily afford this will feel good about having the tiers hit. No one should be telling others to do this, especially someone who might be more vulnerable or influenced. It is not ok. If you can't afford something and feel disappointed/unhappy about it that's totally fine and you're allowed to state it here or anywhere. Please don't let anyone's suggestion of something you truly can't afford put you in a position where it costs you in your life beyond toy collecting. I am not ok with treating this fandom or community like a gambling ring and it already happens too often with secondary market transactions as it is. I'd appreciate not seeing this suggestion made anywhere on this board in the future and to the folks who are making this suggestion, think twice about what you're actually saying to someone before you say it. Ultimately everyone's decision is their own but we will have no part of it here and I definitely won't tolerate it being the norm here. I think some people mean it in a nice way as just suggesting it, because some may forget it’s not only an option, but an option that they can comfortably choose. Some may not be able to choose that though. However, I do agree that no one should feel forced to back it solely because there may be a payment plan option or because it will help others. |
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Post by ajay182 on Mar 27, 2023 18:59:21 GMT -5
Still unsure where I land on this.
I love the stage so much, but the lack of guaranteed additional products makes the price very hard to justify.
If you were early on the New Gen, you had the entrance/ring etc and 2 desirable figures guaranteed (1 FTIL Ultimate and 1 excellent repaint), with 1 figure and ring skirts as the stretch goals.
With the Nitro one, you could argue all of the desirable figures are in the stretch goals and 2 uninteresting repaints are the guarantees.
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Post by savedbytheringbell on Mar 27, 2023 19:06:09 GMT -5
Whether it gets funded or not, I love all the discussion it inspires. I’m dreading the Major Pod’s take on it though.
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Post by RSCTom on Mar 27, 2023 19:06:56 GMT -5
I think some people mean it in a nice way as just suggesting it, because some may forget it’s not only an option, but an option that they can comfortably choose. Some may not be able to choose that though. However, I do agree that no one should feel forced to back it solely because there may be a payment plan option or because it will help others. Someone just told me on Twitter some of these options are interest free and that's all well and good, but some of them do take part in predatory practices and have hidden credit checks when signing up and that could really screw things up for some people. I don't have any issue with anyone making 'nice' suggestions but once is enough for a buy-now-pay-later, these places exist and anyone that can truly afford to use them can find them. It does not need to be regularly encouraged here and there are people who could be affected negatively by this whether it seems like a good idea or not. I am getting ahead of this before it sends someone down a rabbit hole of purchasing something they can't afford and would rather the same people that are concerned about this price point are thinking realistically with their money. The pushy encouragement is what I really take offense to and that is more what I am speaking about. I don't think it's good common practice for anyone around here suggesting to anyone else with financial issues or hardship how they could or should be spending their money and that's it. We can discuss the products until we're blue in the face but this is a line that doesn't need to be crossed. Let's get back to discussing the stage which looks incredible. |
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Mar 27, 2023 19:14:27 GMT -5
I think some people mean it in a nice way as just suggesting it, because some may forget it’s not only an option, but an option that they can comfortably choose. Some may not be able to choose that though. However, I do agree that no one should feel forced to back it solely because there may be a payment plan option or because it will help others. Someone just told me on Twitter some of these options are interest free and that's all well and good, but some of them do take part in predatory practices and have hidden credit checks when signing up and that could really screw things up for some people. I don't have any issue with anyone making 'nice' suggestions but once is enough for a buy-now-pay-later, these places exist and anyone that can truly afford to use them can find them. It does not need to be regularly encouraged here and there are people who could be affected negatively by this whether it seems like a good idea or not. I am getting ahead of this before it sends someone down a rabbit hole of purchasing something they can't afford and would rather the same people that are concerned about this price point are thinking realistically with their money. The pushy encouragement is what I really take offense to and that is more what I am speaking about. I don't think it's good common practice for anyone around here suggesting to anyone else with financial issues or hardship how they could or should be spending their money and that's it. We can discuss the products until we're blue in the face but this is a line that doesn't need to be crossed. Let's get back to discussing the stage which looks incredible. Well said, I agree. As small as a purchase as this is (compared to like a car or something), people still need to think before they get into the payment plans just to make sure they can afford it or not. That’s very kind of you thinking of others as well. Thank you, sir. As for the stage, it’s very  ing cool, I just have no need for it lol. I have a friend that’s going to go almost half on it with me and I will get the figures and he the stage. I hope everything gets backed or I’ll have to back out. |
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