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Post by ImJoeGrizzlyBitch on Jul 18, 2023 12:55:06 GMT -5
It’s SDCC week. A lot of toys are being revealed today, tomorrow and the rest of the week. ZST didn’t throw this figure together over night, this is something that’s been in the works for a while. So I’m pretty sure it has 0 to do with Mattel or their rights to Macho Man.
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Post by ImJoeGrizzlyBitch on Jul 18, 2023 12:55:40 GMT -5
Bold Prediction: They canceled because the production cost is too high and will sell it instead on Mattel Creations at a higher price point. Funny you say that, I was just thinking about that earlier today lol.
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Post by WrestlingFigWig on Jul 18, 2023 12:58:13 GMT -5
Bold Prediction: They canceled because the production cost is too high and will sell it instead on Mattel Creations at a higher price point. Funny you say that, I was just thinking about that earlier today lol. And I will buy it.
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Post by triplehpotter7 on Jul 18, 2023 13:00:50 GMT -5
Funny you say that, I was just thinking about that earlier today lol. And I will buy it. Same. I like this theory. It makes sense.
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Post by glassoni0n on Jul 18, 2023 13:01:04 GMT -5
Bold Prediction: They canceled because the production cost is too high and will sell it instead on Mattel Creations at a higher price point. I don't think that's all that unrealistic honestly. Off of what they showed at Axxess that looked like it was going to be one of the most decked-out mainline Ultimates we've ever gotten. Another thing about this particular Macho Man, I do believe I've heard Bill say in videos that the WM7 Macho Man is one of his all-time favorite figures/looks. Of all the figures I could believe Mattel would hold back if it wasn't 100% right, I could see it being this Macho Man. That could be blind optimism, but the logic kinda tracks.
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Post by WrestlingFigWig on Jul 18, 2023 13:04:00 GMT -5
Bold Prediction: They canceled because the production cost is too high and will sell it instead on Mattel Creations at a higher price point. I don't think that's all that unrealistic honestly. Off of what they showed at Axxess that looked like it was going to be one of the most decked-out mainline Ultimates we've ever gotten. Another thing about this particular Macho Man, I do believe I've heard Bill say in videos that the WM7 Macho Man is one of his all-time favorite figures/looks. Of all the figures I could believe Mattel would hold back if it wasn't 100% right, I could see it being this Macho Man. That could be blind optimism, but the logic kinda tracks. All the influencers being quiet about this and not putting out any videos is another sign to me that something is up.
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Post by WrestlingFigWig on Jul 18, 2023 13:11:01 GMT -5
Another reason they could have canceled the figure is that they realized, “Oh crap, this is Macho King NOT Macho Man!”
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Post by Jeremiah on Jul 18, 2023 13:17:46 GMT -5
If it was production cost then slap in a UE Drew McIntyre you got the parts we are owed a 2nd in the UE 18 line other wise it was just Exclusive Randy Orton black on black attire. He'll throw in riddle so usos have someone to fued with.
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Post by ImJoeGrizzlyBitch on Jul 18, 2023 13:18:04 GMT -5
I don't think that's all that unrealistic honestly. Off of what they showed at Axxess that looked like it was going to be one of the most decked-out mainline Ultimates we've ever gotten. Another thing about this particular Macho Man, I do believe I've heard Bill say in videos that the WM7 Macho Man is one of his all-time favorite figures/looks. Of all the figures I could believe Mattel would hold back if it wasn't 100% right, I could see it being this Macho Man. That could be blind optimism, but the logic kinda tracks. All the influencers being quiet about this and not putting out any videos is another sign to me that something is up. What would you expect them to put up? A video talking about the same thing everybody here is? They know as much as you do. It’s not like mattel calls these people and tells them their business. Jeez
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Post by wwa on Jul 18, 2023 13:18:48 GMT -5
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Post by Figure Nova on Jul 18, 2023 13:23:49 GMT -5
In fairness, that figure does look expensive to make. I could see that it got too pricy for the $32.99 mainline and maybe they're going to repurpose it elsewhere for more $$$, or maybe they'll take a chance to find ways to make this figure cheaper and put it in the mainline. I didn't realize it had a cloth shirt underneath. Seems minuscule but stuff adds up quick, especially when you already have a deluxe jacket, hat, pretty tedious paint apps and multiple heads and hands. Just speculating like the rest of us right now. The budget for Macho is clearly large which would explain why he was paired with Orton who is very plain, Basic and low cost. Didn’t Steve also say it was coming with a new unique head mold with the post match “sweaty/hair across the forehead” look? Couple that with the hat, glasses, shirt and jacket and that was a pretty generous figure.
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Post by WrestlingFigWig on Jul 18, 2023 13:26:25 GMT -5
All the influencers being quiet about this and not putting out any videos is another sign to me that something is up. What would you expect them to put up? A video talking about the same thing everybody here is? They know as much as you do. It’s not like mattel calls these people and tells them their business. Jeez You’re right. Why would they want to get clicks, likes and monetize off the biggest WWE figure news that everyone is talking about right now. What was I thinking!
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Jul 18, 2023 13:28:15 GMT -5
Wow. I'm speechless. Love all my Mattel Macho Man figures. This sucks. Great. A figure of someone dressed as Macho Man for Halloween. Can’t wait.
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Post by ImJoeGrizzlyBitch on Jul 18, 2023 13:29:45 GMT -5
What would you expect them to put up? A video talking about the same thing everybody here is? They know as much as you do. It’s not like mattel calls these people and tells them their business. Jeez You’re right. Why would they want to get clicks, likes and monetize off the biggest WWE figure news that everyone is talking about right now. What was I thinking! You literally use randoms on YouTube to think you’re getting inside info lol.
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Post by ImJoeGrizzlyBitch on Jul 18, 2023 13:32:10 GMT -5
What would you expect them to put up? A video talking about the same thing everybody here is? They know as much as you do. It’s not like mattel calls these people and tells them their business. Jeez You’re right. Why would they want to get clicks, likes and monetize off the biggest WWE figure news that everyone is talking about right now. What was I thinking! Using your logic, they could still put up a video talking about it being cancelled. Hell, if it gets that many views, instead of complaining on here get on youtube and make you a quick video.
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Post by Jonny Flashback on Jul 18, 2023 13:38:57 GMT -5
Zombie is absolutely capitalising on this news to announce this figure.
But... he's really going hard on the fact he's got the designer of the gear to consult with him. So has zombie got in this guys ear to tell him to kick up a stink with WWE for using his designs on a figure WITHOUT his consent or royalties. This could open up a huge can of worms...
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 18, 2023 13:54:07 GMT -5
I could have sworn that Zombie had previous announced that Macho a long time ago.
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Post by Flair Forever on Jul 18, 2023 13:58:58 GMT -5
Legit Question:
Who would control the Poffo estate?
Angelo & his wife are both gone..... Randy "Poffo" Savage didn't have any children.... so Lanny "Genius" Poffo inherited the Savage estate.....
According to Wikipedia - Lanny had one daughter - Meghan. So I'd assume (and possibly wrongly assume) that Meghan Poffo would now be controlling the Macho Man estate?
How does this stuff work?
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Post by Figure Nova on Jul 18, 2023 14:00:07 GMT -5
Zombie is absolutely capitalising on this news to announce this figure. But... he's really going hard on the fact he's got the designer of the hear to consult with him. So has zombie got in this guys ear to tell him to kick up a stink with WWE for using his designs on a figure WITHOUT his consent or royalties. This could open up a huge can of worms... That would all depend on what agreements he made with Savage back in the day surely. I know there was a lawsuit recently involving Orton’s tattoo artist and WWE using their original work in video games and figures without their permission. But I think if there was some issue with WWE using his designs that it would have come out long ago in the last 30 years surely?
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Post by Figure Nova on Jul 18, 2023 14:00:53 GMT -5
Legit Question: Who would control the Poffo estate? Angelo & his wife are both gone..... Randy "Poffo" Savage didn't have any children.... so Lanny "Genius" Poffo inherited the Savage estate..... According to Wikipedia - Lanny had one daughter - Meghan. So I'd assume (and possibly wrongly assume) that Meghan Poffo would now be controlling the Macho Man estate? How does this stuff work? Macho was married when he passed. From what I understand, his widow, Barbara Lynn Poffo, controls his license. Not sure Lanny ever did.
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