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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 20, 2023 2:16:12 GMT -5
So many questions about Royal Rumble '93 when looking back at it.
Why wasn't Kamala in the Royal Rumble when he had just turned face and joined Reverend Slick??
Why wasn't Bam Bam Bigelow and Big Boss Man in the Royal Rumble to give it some more singles star power??
Why didn't Money Inc. defend their Tag Titles at the PPV instead of competing in the Royal Rumble match??
Why did they have Doink take out Crush before the PPV so he couldn't be in the Royal Rumble??
Just seems very random that these things happened.
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 20, 2023 2:37:03 GMT -5
So many questions about Royal Rumble '93 when looking back at it.
Why wasn't Kamala in the Royal Rumble when he had just turned face and joined Reverend Slick??
Why wasn't Bam Bam Bigelow and Big Boss Man in the Royal Rumble to give it some more singles star power??
Why didn't Money Inc. defend their Tag Titles at the PPV instead of competing in the Royal Rumble match??
Why did they have Doink take out Crush before the PPV so he couldn't be in the Royal Rumble??
Just seems very random that these things happened.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jun 20, 2023 6:43:13 GMT -5
Very fair points. I have always loved this event for nostalgic reasons, but it could have definitely been better especially the Rumble match itself.
Bam Bam and Big Boss Man would have helped elevate the star power that was lacking. The match they had was simply there to put Bam Bam over as an imposing heel since he had just returned, but a strong Rumble appearance could have been just as effective if not more.
Doink taking Crush out of the match was done to raise the stakes of their feud which was pretty hot at the time. He cost him an opportunity to compete for the World title. Hard to argue against that decision as it made storyline sense.
There is no excuse why guys like Kamala and Duggan weren't involved. Both were at least over with the fans and would've elicited a pop unlike Carlos Colon or Tenyru.
Coming off the heels of the 1992 match which arguably had the greatest star power ever in one ring, it was going to be an uphill battles given the roster shakeup that occured, but it didn't have to be as weak as it was. Crazy how the original PPV poster features not only Crush and Kamala, but also the likes of Warrior, Bulldog and even Nailz. Those names alone would have helped spiced things up.
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Post by The Brain on Jun 20, 2023 7:19:56 GMT -5
Very fair points. I have always loved this event for nostalgic reasons, but it could have definitely been better especially the Rumble match itself. Bam Bam and Big Boss Man would have helped elevate the star power that was lacking. The match they had was simply there to put Bam Bam over as an imposing heel since he had just returned, but a strong Rumble appearance could have been just as effective if not more. Doink taking Crush out of the match was done to raise the stakes of their feud which was pretty hot at the time. He cost him an opportunity to compete for the World title. Hard to argue against that decision as it made storyline sense. There is no excuse why guys like Kamala and Duggan weren't involved. Both were at least over with the fans and would've elicited a pop unlike Carlos Colon or Tenyru. Coming off the heels of the 1992 match which arguably had the greatest star power ever in one ring, it was going to be an uphill battles given the roster shakeup that occured, but it didn't have to be as weak as it was. Crazy how the original PPV poster features not only Crush and Kamala, but also the likes of Warrior, Bulldog and even Nailz. Those names alone would have helped spiced things up. The youngster! On the topic of Duggan, he def shouldve been in to have the confrontation with Yoko.I know they filmed the injury angle a few weeks prior(with it airing on Superstars in Feb) but since spoilers werent a thing during these days they easily couldve got away with it. Kamala really made no sense. They just pair with Slick and he's nowhere to be seen come the PPV? He's even on the back of the VHS!!  |
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 20, 2023 9:48:40 GMT -5
With who was in the Rumble, the Final 4 should have been Yoko, Macho, Perfect, and Flair. However, I really think that Flair should have faced Bret at the Rumble for one final shot at the title. Bret beating Flair on a big PPV would have given him a bigger boost as the champion. If that happened, then the Final 4 could have been the same three above but with Razor taking Flair's spot.
Yeah, this rumble and the 1995 rumble were kind of lackluster - losing Warrior, Davey Boy, and Nailz didn't help. Bam Bam being in the rumble would have been good, but they already had a few big guys in the ring (Quake, Yoko, Typhoon), they probably didn't want another one. Plus, he was just returning, why have him get eliminated in the rumble when he can go over the Big Boss Man instead and look like a monster.
For Money Inc and the Nasty Boys, I guess it depends on when they knew they had Hogan coming back for WrestleMania. It did appear that they were setting up Money Inc and the Nasty Boys for a major feud, possibly culminating at WM9. But when Hogan returned, I'm guessing the plans changed. If they knew Hogan was coming back at WM9 prior to the Rumble, then yeah, they probably should have had Money Inc face the Nasty Boys for the titles at the Rumble.
For some reason, I always thought that Yoko attacked Duggan prior to the Rumble, and that was the reason he wasn't there. I never knew, or I forgot, that the attack aired after the Rumble. If that was the case, then Duggan could have been in the Rumble instead of the youngster, Carlos Colon, and he could have been eliminated by Yoko to set up the attack which would air later.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 20, 2023 11:59:58 GMT -5
Wow... I didn't even think of Duggan!
Man, Duggan missed four PPVs in a row.
He wasn't on the SummerSlam PPV even though he did compete at it in a dark match, then wasn't on Survivor Series, Royal Rumble or Wrestlemania IX
That is pretty crazy to think being the WWE was in need of star power then and Duggan was over with the fans.
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Post by The Brain on Jun 20, 2023 12:35:40 GMT -5
With who was in the Rumble, the Final 4 should have been Yoko, Macho, Perfect, and Flair. However, I really think that Flair should have faced Bret at the Rumble for one final shot at the title. Bret beating Flair on a big PPV would have given him a bigger boost as the champion. If that happened, then the Final 4 could have been the same three above but with Razor taking Flair's spot. Yeah, this rumble and the 1995 rumble were kind of lackluster - losing Warrior, Davey Boy, and Nailz didn't help. Bam Bam being in the rumble would have been good, but they already had a few big guys in the ring (Quake, Yoko, Typhoon), they probably didn't want another one. Plus, he was just returning, why have him get eliminated in the rumble when he can go over the Big Boss Man instead and look like a monster. For Money Inc and the Nasty Boys, I guess it depends on when they knew they had Hogan coming back for WrestleMania. It did appear that they were setting up Money Inc and the Nasty Boys for a major feud, possibly culminating at WM9. But when Hogan returned, I'm guessing the plans changed. If they knew Hogan was coming back at WM9 prior to the Rumble, then yeah, they probably should have had Money Inc face the Nasty Boys for the titles at the Rumble.
For some reason, I always thought that Yoko attacked Duggan prior to the Rumble, and that was the reason he wasn't there. I never knew, or I forgot, that the attack aired after the Rumble. If that was the case, then Duggan could have been in the Rumble instead of the youngster, Carlos Colon, and he could have been eliminated by Yoko to set up the attack which would air later. I remember during a virtual few years ago the Nasties did say they were penciled in for the title shot at Mania until Hogan came in and changed everything Makes you wonder if they wouldve got the belts/stayed with WWF in the end. Another feud with no conclusion.... |
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Post by The Brain on Jun 20, 2023 12:39:01 GMT -5
Wow... I didn't even think of Duggan! Man, Duggan missed four PPVs in a row. He wasn't on the SummerSlam PPV even though he did compete at it in a dark match, then wasn't on Survivor Series, Royal Rumble or Wrestlemania IX That is pretty crazy to think being the WWE was in need of star power then and Duggan was over with the fans. Duggan had a real quiet 92 post Mania.I know he didnt wrestle on TV much as he was mainly used on PTW as part of the panel |
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 20, 2023 12:39:47 GMT -5
With who was in the Rumble, the Final 4 should have been Yoko, Macho, Perfect, and Flair. However, I really think that Flair should have faced Bret at the Rumble for one final shot at the title. Bret beating Flair on a big PPV would have given him a bigger boost as the champion. If that happened, then the Final 4 could have been the same three above but with Razor taking Flair's spot. Yeah, this rumble and the 1995 rumble were kind of lackluster - losing Warrior, Davey Boy, and Nailz didn't help. Bam Bam being in the rumble would have been good, but they already had a few big guys in the ring (Quake, Yoko, Typhoon), they probably didn't want another one. Plus, he was just returning, why have him get eliminated in the rumble when he can go over the Big Boss Man instead and look like a monster. For Money Inc and the Nasty Boys, I guess it depends on when they knew they had Hogan coming back for WrestleMania. It did appear that they were setting up Money Inc and the Nasty Boys for a major feud, possibly culminating at WM9. But when Hogan returned, I'm guessing the plans changed. If they knew Hogan was coming back at WM9 prior to the Rumble, then yeah, they probably should have had Money Inc face the Nasty Boys for the titles at the Rumble.
For some reason, I always thought that Yoko attacked Duggan prior to the Rumble, and that was the reason he wasn't there. I never knew, or I forgot, that the attack aired after the Rumble. If that was the case, then Duggan could have been in the Rumble instead of the youngster, Carlos Colon, and he could have been eliminated by Yoko to set up the attack which would air later. I remember during a virtual few years ago the Nasties did say they were penciled in for the title shot at Mania until Hogan came in and changed everything Makes you wonder if they wouldve got the belts/stayed with WWF in the end. Another feud with no conclusion.... That does seem to make a lot of sense. They were building the Nasty Boys to be top babyfaces, and it was going okay. I imagine that they would have had the match at WM9 vs. Money Inc. for the titles. However, I wonder if they would have won, seeing that the WWF already signed the Steiner Brothers. I would think that the WWF already knew they were going to give the belts to Steiners the minute they signed them. |
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Post by The Brain on Jun 20, 2023 12:45:44 GMT -5
I remember during a virtual few years ago the Nasties did say they were penciled in for the title shot at Mania until Hogan came in and changed everything Makes you wonder if they wouldve got the belts/stayed with WWF in the end. Another feud with no conclusion.... That does seem to make a lot of sense. They were building the Nasty Boys to be top babyfaces, and it was going okay. I imagine that they would have had the match at WM9 vs. Money Inc. for the titles. However, I wonder if they would have won, seeing that the WWF already signed the Steiner Brothers. I would think that the WWF already knew they were going to give the belts to Steiners the minute they signed them. Yeah with the Steiners now in the mix, they were probably screwed. We wouldve probably got a DQ finish or Money Inc cheating to win Shame though as like you said they were getting over in the face role. Just bad timing in the end |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 20, 2023 12:49:16 GMT -5
I remember during a virtual few years ago the Nasties did say they were penciled in for the title shot at Mania until Hogan came in and changed everything Makes you wonder if they wouldve got the belts/stayed with WWF in the end. Another feud with no conclusion.... That does seem to make a lot of sense. They were building the Nasty Boys to be top babyfaces, and it was going okay. I imagine that they would have had the match at WM9 vs. Money Inc. for the titles. However, I wonder if they would have won, seeing that the WWF already signed the Steiner Brothers. I would think that the WWF already knew they were going to give the belts to Steiners the minute they signed them.
I wonder if the Nasty Boys would have stayed with the WWF if the Steiners never signed to come into the WWF.
I feel that the face turn they were ready to be the top good guys for the tag division, especially with Quake leaving right after the Royal Rumble.
Even with Hogan and Beefcake coming back, if Steiners never came into the WWF I feel the Nasty Boys probably would have stayed and then gotten the belts off Money Inc. and feuded with them that summer of 1993.
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Post by The Brain on Jun 20, 2023 14:22:33 GMT -5
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 20, 2023 14:33:05 GMT -5
That does seem to make a lot of sense. They were building the Nasty Boys to be top babyfaces, and it was going okay. I imagine that they would have had the match at WM9 vs. Money Inc. for the titles. However, I wonder if they would have won, seeing that the WWF already signed the Steiner Brothers. I would think that the WWF already knew they were going to give the belts to Steiners the minute they signed them. Yeah with the Steiners now in the mix, they were probably screwed. We wouldve probably got a DQ finish or Money Inc cheating to win Shame though as like you said they were getting over in the face role. Just bad timing in the end That would sound good. Though, they could have turned the Nasty Boys back heel. Have the DQ finish at WM9, then have the Steiner's become the #1 contenders and defeat Money Inc. for the belts. After that, have the Nasty Boys turn on the Steiner's saying that they stole their title shot after WM9. Then you could have the Steiner Brothers vs a heel Nasty Boys team in the fall. |
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Post by rateddal on Jun 20, 2023 17:40:23 GMT -5
With who was in the Rumble, the Final 4 should have been Yoko, Macho, Perfect, and Flair. However, I really think that Flair should have faced Bret at the Rumble for one final shot at the title. Bret beating Flair on a big PPV would have given him a bigger boost as the champion. If that happened, then the Final 4 could have been the same three above but with Razor taking Flair's spot. Yeah, this rumble and the 1995 rumble were kind of lackluster - losing Warrior, Davey Boy, and Nailz didn't help. Bam Bam being in the rumble would have been good, but they already had a few big guys in the ring (Quake, Yoko, Typhoon), they probably didn't want another one. Plus, he was just returning, why have him get eliminated in the rumble when he can go over the Big Boss Man instead and look like a monster. For Money Inc and the Nasty Boys, I guess it depends on when they knew they had Hogan coming back for WrestleMania. It did appear that they were setting up Money Inc and the Nasty Boys for a major feud, possibly culminating at WM9. But when Hogan returned, I'm guessing the plans changed. If they knew Hogan was coming back at WM9 prior to the Rumble, then yeah, they probably should have had Money Inc face the Nasty Boys for the titles at the Rumble. For some reason, I always thought that Yoko attacked Duggan prior to the Rumble, and that was the reason he wasn't there. I never knew, or I forgot, that the attack aired after the Rumble. If that was the case, then Duggan could have been in the Rumble instead of the youngster, Carlos Colon, and he could have been eliminated by Yoko to set up the attack which would air later. Flair was already booked for that Loser Leaves town match with Perfect the next night on Raw. Think it would've been too predictable that Flair wasn't taking the title off Bret maybe? That's my thinking anyway. Bret definitely should've gotten a PPV rub from beating Flair though I'll say that. |
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Post by hbkjason on Jun 21, 2023 2:35:44 GMT -5
Since we're talking Rumble 93, Gotta show this bad boy again.... 
 That is such an awesome piece, I always loved that Rumble poster. Your signed collection truly is something special and I always get a kick out of it when you share bits of it on here  I thought Rumble 93 was a decent event, but it is not one of my favorites. Also, as much as I love Randy Savage, I am sure I have said this before, but he has to be the worst Rumble competitor in history! As a kid I was so freaking mad for how stupid he was trying to pin Yokozuna! |
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Post by rateddal on Jun 21, 2023 5:17:41 GMT -5
91 No show after Warrior chased him outta the building kayfabe. 92 should've been eliminated for jumping over to get to Jake and the pin attempt in 93 was brutal for a vet.
That being said his elimination in 90 was probably my favorite all time. That backdrop from Dusty was absolutely an incredible spot/bump.
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Post by AndrewR85 on Jun 22, 2023 13:24:29 GMT -5
I've always liked the 1993 Royal Rumble and having watched it this morning, I find myself in agreement with what has already been said. If I was in charge, I would have used the Big Boss Man, Bam Bam, Kamala and Jim Duggan instead of Carlos Colón, Terry Taylor, Tenryu and Damien Demento.
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 23, 2023 1:32:00 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the Flair/Lawler exchanges in this RR....Id liked to have seen them go at it more.
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Post by koreygunz on Jun 26, 2023 21:16:06 GMT -5
Wow... I didn't even think of Duggan! Man, Duggan missed four PPVs in a row. He wasn't on the SummerSlam PPV even though he did compete at it in a dark match, then wasn't on Survivor Series, Royal Rumble or Wrestlemania IX That is pretty crazy to think being the WWE was in need of star power then and Duggan was over with the fans. Duggan had a real quiet 92 post Mania.I know he didnt wrestle on TV much as he was mainly used on PTW as part of the panel I've been watching 92-93 era on the Network lately and Duggan WAS officially announced as being in the Rumble on an episode of Superstars. Even have a promo for it. Wonder when and why he was taken out? |
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jun 27, 2023 7:29:28 GMT -5
Duggan had a real quiet 92 post Mania.I know he didnt wrestle on TV much as he was mainly used on PTW as part of the panel I've been watching 92-93 era on the Network lately and Duggan WAS officially announced as being in the Rumble on an episode of Superstars. Even have a promo for it. Wonder when and why he was taken out? I used to think it was for kayfabe reasons as he was selling the injuries he sustained when Yokozuna gave him the Banzai Drop multiple times. However, I think that officially aired after the Royal Rumble so still a mystery why he wouldn't be in the match after being featured. Regardless of how you feel about him, the guy was always over and got a great reaction from the crowd. You would think having him included in that match was a given since the star power was pretty weak especially compared to the previous Rumble. |
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