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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Jul 24, 2023 13:17:03 GMT -5
good afternoon/morning wfigs and jabronie marks without a life that don't know it a work when you work a work and work yourself into a shoot get a life kid  that’s why we didn’t see an updated mustafa ali |
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Post by crush on Jul 24, 2023 13:19:58 GMT -5
The Becky "debate" might be the dumbest thing that's ever happened on this board, and that really says a lot. Anyway, I'll probably pick this set up if either of my local Targets ever gets them. Considering the fact that they never saw the Raw 30th pack, I'm not holding my breath. that’s a stretch. both sides have good arguments while Becky IS a star, she’s not on the same level of stardom as 3 of the biggest names in wrestling like Hogan, Rock, and Austin. this causes her stick out like a sore thumb to most By that logic, any modern star would do the same. The whole idea of the set is "Then, Now, Forever, Together" and overall WWE's marketing (especially since 2001) has been about putting whoever the current stars of the moment are among the legends of the past , so it's really not a surprise that they have a modern star in here, and Becky (whether people think she "deserves" it or not or whatever) has consistently been presented by WWE as not only the biggest female star but in the top faces of the company (probably currently along with Roman and Cody and arguably Rollins) so from that perspective it honestly makes total sense to include her here, or just as much sense as it would a Cody or etc. And to br frank (and I'm not picking on him, I like Cody but since he's the top babyface in the company right now I'll use that example) Cody would "stick out" just as much from a biggest stars in wrestling history standpoint in a box set with Hogan, Rock, and Austin, yet there be maybe 1/10th of the backlash on here. |
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Post by HardyKOfan01 on Jul 24, 2023 13:22:10 GMT -5
that’s not gonna work for me brother HH You got me there brother HH |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 24, 2023 13:39:36 GMT -5
that’s a stretch. both sides have good arguments while Becky IS a star, she’s not on the same level of stardom as 3 of the biggest names in wrestling like Hogan, Rock, and Austin. this causes her stick out like a sore thumb to most By that logic, any modern star would do the same. The whole idea of the set is "Then, Now, Forever, Together" and overall WWE's marketing (especially since 2001) has been about putting whoever the current stars of the moment are among the legends of the past , so it's really not a surprise that they have a modern star in here, and Becky (whether people think she "deserves" it or not or whatever) has consistently been presented by WWE as not only the biggest female star but in the top faces of the company (probably currently along with Roman and Cody and arguably Rollins) so from that perspective it honestly makes total sense to include her here, or just as much sense as it would a Cody or etc. And to br frank (and I'm not picking on him, I like Cody but since he's the top babyface in the company right now I'll use that example) Cody would "stick out" just as much from a biggest stars in wrestling history standpoint in a box set with Hogan, Rock, and Austin, yet there be maybe 1/10th of the backlash on here. Becky also has been over longer in the WWE than Cody. Cody was a career midcarder in the WWE up until his return last year. Only people I would position above Becky on the active roster would be Brock and Roman. And while they may fit better amongst the legends, their figs would be boring compared to Becky’s. If you’re a modern day collector are you gonna drop $70 for a pack that contains another plain shorts or overalls Brock or plain black pants Roman or Becky in that attire? |
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Post by crush on Jul 24, 2023 13:47:35 GMT -5
By that logic, any modern star would do the same. The whole idea of the set is "Then, Now, Forever, Together" and overall WWE's marketing (especially since 2001) has been about putting whoever the current stars of the moment are among the legends of the past , so it's really not a surprise that they have a modern star in here, and Becky (whether people think she "deserves" it or not or whatever) has consistently been presented by WWE as not only the biggest female star but in the top faces of the company (probably currently along with Roman and Cody and arguably Rollins) so from that perspective it honestly makes total sense to include her here, or just as much sense as it would a Cody or etc. And to br frank (and I'm not picking on him, I like Cody but since he's the top babyface in the company right now I'll use that example) Cody would "stick out" just as much from a biggest stars in wrestling history standpoint in a box set with Hogan, Rock, and Austin, yet there be maybe 1/10th of the backlash on here. Becky also has been over longer in the WWE than Cody. Cody was a career midcarder in the WWE up until his return last year. Only people I would position above Becky on the active roster would be Brock and Roman. And while they may fit better amongst the legends, their figs would be boring compared to Becky’s. If you’re a modern day collector are you gonna drop $70 for a pack that contains another plain shorts or overalls Brock or plain black pants Roman or Becky in that attire? I agree. I just used Cody since he's the biggest baby face at this moment so he would likely have been in contention for a set like this well, the same way many others would have been through out the years. If this set were made in 2005, the modern talent would probably have been Cena or Batista, in 2012 Cena or Punk, in 2015 Roman or Brock, and etc. |
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Post by WrestlingFigWig on Jul 24, 2023 14:47:30 GMT -5
You finally said what no one else would: The truth... and the fact Sable isn't under a Legends deal. I would take Becky over Sable any day of the week. Plus like I said earlier in this post. The WWE is high on Becky. She’s featured in the Then, Now Forever video they show at the start of every television show. And she is the only modern name they feature during the Raw information on the cable channel guide. If anything they should have replaced the Rocky Miavia figure for an Undertaker. As he and Austin are mentioned with Becky in the program listing.  That said it’s an easy pass for me, because I only want the Hogan. Already have that version of Miavia and I like the HOF Austin’s more. And Becky I am not a fan of that attire so $80 for just wanting the Hogan is way more than I’m willing to spend. Brother got worked... up. If we're having to debate if someone is a star, that's kind of the definition of not being a star. It's like that Hot or Not episode of The Office about Hillary Swank. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 24, 2023 14:51:44 GMT -5
I can totally understand why some people don't think Becky belongs in this set - and it has nothing to do with her being a woman. She just isn't "up there" with the likes of Hogan, Rock and Stone Cold - simple as that. It should only have been Cena or possibly, Roman. ANYONE else - male or female - would have stuck out too.
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 24, 2023 15:18:10 GMT -5
I can totally understand why some people don't think Becky belongs in this set - and it has nothing to do with her being a woman. She just isn't "up there" with the likes of Hogan, Rock and Stone Cold - simple as that. It should only have been Cena or possibly, Roman. ANYONE else - male or female - would have stuck out too. Careful, if you criticize her people will think you are a woman-hating man who still lives in his parent's basement. Also, don't bring logic to an internet forum, that is not allowed... With that being said, that has been my argument all along, it has nothing to do with Becky being a woman, they could have put Seth or Cody in that same spot, and it would have been the same result - one of these things is not like the others... It's like that episode of Seinfeld when George joined the Yankees and Seinfeld said, "Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle... Costanza..." Also, these sets never seem to be that popular, putting older stars with newer stars doesn't sit well with most buyers. Some people want one or two figures from the set, not everyone. Most people on this forum have said they want one figure from the set but don't want to pay $80 to get it. And the one figure varies from person to person, some want just Hogan, some want just Becky, but not all 4. I remember those old All-Stars two packs just sitting on the TRU's shelves. People who wanted Austin didn't necessarily want Punk, and vice versa. Same with Jake and Orton, and Macho and Morrison. They really should have sold this set like the new Defining Moments set, package them in individual boxes that you can buy together or separately, that would have made much more sense. |
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jul 24, 2023 15:30:18 GMT -5
They wanted a woman in the set. Why is that so hard to understand? They didn’t want a Cena or Roman or Cody or Orton even. They wanted a top female star, and this gets people to spend extra money they wouldn’t have to get whatever figures they want regardless.
Then some people will actually like/enjoy the set for what it is instead of getting caught up in the bs fantasy of what they would have put in the set IF they worked at WWE or Mattel…which they don’t. Keep wishing in one hand and you know the rest…
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 24, 2023 15:33:12 GMT -5
I can totally understand why some people don't think Becky belongs in this set - and it has nothing to do with her being a woman. She just isn't "up there" with the likes of Hogan, Rock and Stone Cold - simple as that. It should only have been Cena or possibly, Roman. ANYONE else - male or female - would have stuck out too. Careful, if you criticize her people will think you are a woman-hating man who still lives in his parent's basement. Also, don't bring logic to an internet forum, that is not allowed... With that being said, that has been my argument all along, it has nothing to do with Becky being a woman, they could have put Seth or Cody in that same spot, and it would have been the same result - one of these things is not like the others... It's like that episode of Seinfeld when George joined the Yankees and Seinfeld said, "Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle... Costanza..." Also, these sets never seem to be that popular, putting older stars with newer stars doesn't sit well with most buyers. Some people want one or two figures from the set, not everyone. Most people on this forum have said they want one figure from the set but don't want to pay $80 to get it. And the one figure varies from person to person, some want just Hogan, some want just Becky, but not all 4. I remember those old All-Stars two packs just sitting on the TRU's shelves. People who wanted Austin didn't necessarily want Punk, and vice versa. Same with Jake and Orton, and Macho and Morrison. They really should have sold this set like the new Defining Moments set, package them in individual boxes that you can buy together or separately, that would have made much more sense. Costanza> |
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Post by coldblooded on Jul 24, 2023 15:44:59 GMT -5
I can totally understand why some people don't think Becky belongs in this set - and it has nothing to do with her being a woman. She just isn't "up there" with the likes of Hogan, Rock and Stone Cold - simple as that. It should only have been Cena or possibly, Roman. ANYONE else - male or female - would have stuck out too. This Shes a star, but so is Randy Orton, and even he isn't on that level. |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Jul 24, 2023 15:55:13 GMT -5
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 24, 2023 15:56:57 GMT -5
Careful, if you criticize her people will think you are a woman-hating man who still lives in his parent's basement. Also, don't bring logic to an internet forum, that is not allowed... With that being said, that has been my argument all along, it has nothing to do with Becky being a woman, they could have put Seth or Cody in that same spot, and it would have been the same result - one of these things is not like the others... It's like that episode of Seinfeld when George joined the Yankees and Seinfeld said, "Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle... Costanza..." Also, these sets never seem to be that popular, putting older stars with newer stars doesn't sit well with most buyers. Some people want one or two figures from the set, not everyone. Most people on this forum have said they want one figure from the set but don't want to pay $80 to get it. And the one figure varies from person to person, some want just Hogan, some want just Becky, but not all 4. I remember those old All-Stars two packs just sitting on the TRU's shelves. People who wanted Austin didn't necessarily want Punk, and vice versa. Same with Jake and Orton, and Macho and Morrison. They really should have sold this set like the new Defining Moments set, package them in individual boxes that you can buy together or separately, that would have made much more sense. Costanza> Huh? |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 24, 2023 15:58:20 GMT -5
I actually think it shoulda been a 5 pack and drop Rocky.
Then: Hogan (a retired legend)
Now: Becky (a modern day star)
Forever: Austin (a legend still going today)
Together: any duo from today or yesterday works here (Usos, Sammy & KO, Hart Foundation, DX, Brothers of Destruction, etc)
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jul 24, 2023 16:00:45 GMT -5
I actually think it shoulda been a 5 pack and drop Rocky. Then: Hogan (a retired legend) Now: Becky (a modern day star) Forever: Austin (a legend still going today) Together: any duo from today or yesterday works here (Usos, Sammy & KO, Hart Foundation, DX, Brothers of Destruction, etc) Together should’ve been Vince with mustache and ftitl Intern. |
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Post by Da Handsome 1 on Jul 24, 2023 16:02:59 GMT -5
Can’t wait to find this set
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Post by drankadranka on Jul 24, 2023 16:07:12 GMT -5
Vince w the mustache for an ultimate may be GFOAT
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Post by Mr. Show on Jul 24, 2023 16:11:40 GMT -5
If not for Becky, I would probably pass on this set. She’s what makes it a must-have for me.
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Post by TheChosen1 on Jul 24, 2023 16:15:06 GMT -5
I get what they were going for but I would have went with Hogan, Austin, Cena and either Reigns or Rollins. Each repersenting the majoir eras
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 24, 2023 16:33:31 GMT -5
I think all these choices feel like a bit of a mash up…putting a Hogan with a new title behind a paywall feels weird, Rocky choice is very strange going with a re-release debut look rather than a more iconic time period of either The Rock’s career or the business itself, surely this was supposed to be in the Greatest Hits line. Austin is fine I guess and Becky I don’t have thoughts on either way.
It feels like they either had a promised 4 pack for Walmart and ran out of ideas…or something changed last minute with talent that was supposed to be in the 4 pack and they’ve had to replace last minute.
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