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Post by JokerFC on Dec 10, 2023 19:00:08 GMT -5
So I was watching some post Starrcade 98/Jan 99 Nitros recently to see where WCW really started to sh*t the bed and I was on the episode where Flair beats Bischoff for control of WCW(mostly great stuff it must be said). Now my memory is playing tricks on me here because I never remember seeing jacked up Macho Man with Gorgeous G until the spring of 99 BUT here he is. Savage comes to the ring(w/GG) looking huge wearing an nWo B&W shirt to wallop Bischoff & help Flair win. Tenay is screaming about him wearing the B&W colors....Tony is crapping his pants about George....Savage has a huge impact... betrays a faction he wasnt a member of & he had been feuding with since March 98 then disappears until April. lunacy.....WTAF
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Post by Papi Joker on Dec 10, 2023 19:04:31 GMT -5
The thing about this run is, we will never know the real truth!!!
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Post by The Brain on Dec 10, 2023 19:05:12 GMT -5
No matter how many yrs go by, WCW and their creative decisions will never fail to confuse us
On the topic of Mach during this time, I never cared for ''The What Up Mach?'' stuff. Worst time of his career IMO
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Post by JokerFC on Dec 10, 2023 19:07:27 GMT -5
No matter how many yrs go by, WCW and their creative decisions will never fail to confuse us On the topic of Mach during this time, I never cared for ''The What Up Mach?'' stuff. Worst time of his career IMO I didn't know what to make of Savage during this time...he was all over the place. Like WCWs writing...LOL
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Post by Papi Joker on Dec 10, 2023 19:16:13 GMT -5
No matter how many yrs go by, WCW and their creative decisions will never fail to confuse us On the topic of Mach during this time, I never cared for ''The What Up Mach?'' stuff. Worst time of his career IMO I didn't know what to make of Savage during this time...he was all over the place. Like WCWs writing...LOL as always he looked very cool, i liked the 3 valets thing tbh. (except the theme) But yeah i guess he was always second fiddle to everyone, but why not just return to WWE? ? If I could ask anyone anything it would be that to him.....
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Post by The Brain on Dec 10, 2023 19:25:45 GMT -5
I lost interest in Mach post DDP feud in late 97.I didnt care about any of the Wolfpac stuff.The feud with Bret man if it was WWF 1993 wouldve been amazing but this one fell flat to say the least
And those last 2 title ''reigns''...Talk about forgettable
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Post by Papi Joker on Dec 10, 2023 20:25:15 GMT -5
how come no one even knows who his protoge was!??
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Dec 10, 2023 21:31:19 GMT -5
He was on borrowed time wrestling wise. A shell of his former self.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Dec 10, 2023 21:38:01 GMT -5
I would still pick 1999 WCW Randy Savage over 2004 TNA Randy Savage any day!
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Post by LA Times on Dec 10, 2023 22:39:11 GMT -5
Mattel released a figure of him from this period in their Walmart Then Now Forever line. When I think of Randy Savage then, now and forever, his What Up Mach gimmick sure as hell doesnt come to mind.
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Post by Papi Joker on Dec 10, 2023 23:36:56 GMT -5
He was on borrowed time wrestling wise. A shell of his former self. it's truly sad, bc when he was ready to retire he didn't want to go back to announce table where he could have done so much, even after WCW he coulda been the voice of TNA idk
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Post by hbkjason on Dec 11, 2023 0:34:04 GMT -5
I loved Randy Savage, but my 17/19 year old brain was way more into Gorgeous George at this time if I am being honest!
I thought that he got too jacked and the stuff he was doing in the ring was not that great to be honest, it was not terrible, but like many othes have said, it was very forgetable.
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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 11, 2023 14:04:49 GMT -5
Strange times indeed for Randy. Following late 1997 I just didn’t care much for Randy any longer. I wasn’t a fan of Sting playing fourth-wheel to the Hogan-Savage-Nash drama, and his appearances in 1999 were even more bizarre. I had no desire to see him feuding over the world title in 1999 either (as well as Hogan). That time should have been focused on Goldberg, Steiner, Booker, ect…but instead we got Hogan-Savage-Nash as the main feud once again.
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Post by The Brain on Dec 11, 2023 14:12:10 GMT -5
Also sad his last WCW match was against Rodman in a match that involved a port- o- potty...
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Post by TheXtremisT on Dec 11, 2023 17:13:40 GMT -5
As a kid I thought he was an arsehole in 1999 when I first started watching. Watching 1999 last year, I actually appreciated his run, and thought he could have done with keeping the belt a bit longer. Made you love to hate him. The woman beater storyline went nowhere and made no sense. Glad they dropped it. There's no coming back from it. What I don't get was he was WCW champion, then all of a sudden lost the belt to Hogan (yet again ) and then had a barely even there feud with Dennis Rodman for a month, which went nowhere, did nothing for either men, we had Mach who was a woman beater the previous few weeks, then Rodman was presented initially as a face but then was a bit of a loose cannon and then kidnapped Gorgeous George (she had a habit of being taken) so he was a bad guy? But Savage was a good guy for saving his woman? And then he disappeared immediately after their match at Road Wild despite them trying to build Rodman for like 3 weeks.... Side note - as a 12 year old when I first came across TNA in the UK in 2003, I thought "wow this reminds me so much of WCW and there are all these ex-WWE/WCW guys!". At the time, Jarrett was NWA champion. And the first episode I watched, Tenay was bigging up this "AJ Styles" that I had never heard of, and how he was to face Jarrett for the title. Now being conditioned by WCW that main eventers had to be guys over 40 years old, I pictured this AJ Styles in my mind as being just like 1999 Randy Savage.... So imagine my surprise to see this 22 year old, 210lbs kid with a combed fringe, short sideburns and both ears pierced, looking like he'd fit right in with 3 Count as not only a contender to the NWA title, but a former champion. That caught my attention.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Dec 11, 2023 18:11:44 GMT -5
99 WCW was actually good stuff for me. It's not that bad, really. I'd say it gets looked down upon cos WWF was rocking on top & WCW just wasn't as good as it was in 96,97,98 etc.
It was still cool to have Savage around in 99 tbh.
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Post by Its Tiffy Time on Dec 11, 2023 18:19:55 GMT -5
My least favorite Era of Savage. he looked like he raided Elton John's closet.
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Post by MKSavage on Dec 12, 2023 9:30:13 GMT -5
Not my favorite part of his career, but it was still good to see him around. It did keep me watching WCW during this time, which was hard to do.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Dec 12, 2023 12:41:56 GMT -5
Not a fan of this incarnation. Then again, anything 1999 WCW still gives me a bad taste in the mouth. Unreal how quickly that company bottomed out from end of 1998 when things were still pretty solid.
Looked like Randy finally dipped into his ICOPRO stock when he came back.
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Post by JokerFC on Dec 12, 2023 14:48:40 GMT -5
Savage was way too big & far less mobile kinda like HHH in 02/03
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