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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 6, 2024 0:54:30 GMT -5
This is the most excited I've been about the women's divison,Deonna being ALL ELITE,Deeb on her way back,Jamie and Britt should be back on our screens really soon,the Timeless one and Julia killing it as champions and maybe most importantly Jade out of the picture and not holding a title hostage. Please don't f*** this up Tony🙏 Oh yeah,Swerve is a SUPERSTAR. Get this man and Switchblade some gold Mercedes possibly coming in also, stacked division.
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Post by sonstuds on Jan 6, 2024 10:51:44 GMT -5
I want Hangman to beat Joe for the title and then have Hangman drop it to Swerve. I think you're the only other person I've seen so far who doesn't want Swerve to be the next champ. In my perfect world Joe loses to Danielson who loses to Swerve and it's honestly just because I want Swerve and Joe to remain heels and I don't like heel vs. heel matches lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2024 11:04:31 GMT -5
I want Hangman to beat Joe for the title and then have Hangman drop it to Swerve. I think you're the only other person I've seen so far who doesn't want Swerve to be the next champ. In my perfect world Joe loses to Danielson who loses to Swerve and it's honestly just because I want Swerve and Joe to remain heels and I don't like heel vs. heel matches lol The real question is, how soon do you guys have Joe dropping the title he just won? Many believe the guy deserves a lengthy reign. No doubt Swerve becoming champion is the future goal, but how soon? This year? Is another Hangman reign really warranted? The guys hasn’t done much in the past few months outside of the Swerve match. Danielson is in the twilight of his career (sadly). Do we make him a transitional champion? Another guy many people would like to see get a solid reign in. Seems time is running out for the American Dragon.
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Jan 6, 2024 11:05:08 GMT -5
I want Hangman to beat Joe for the title and then have Hangman drop it to Swerve. I think you're the only other person I've seen so far who doesn't want Swerve to be the next champ. In my perfect world Joe loses to Danielson who loses to Swerve and it's honestly just because I want Swerve and Joe to remain heels and I don't like heel vs. heel matches lol I'm pretty heavy in that camp as well. Within the last few months we've seen Swerve do a breaking and entering on a face's home, use cinderblocks repeatedly, etc. I like Swerve a lot and he should probably one of the next in line, but it's going to be hard to have a interesting feud when your heel is getting all the cheers.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 6, 2024 11:05:57 GMT -5
I want Hangman to beat Joe for the title and then have Hangman drop it to Swerve. I think you're the only other person I've seen so far who doesn't want Swerve to be the next champ. In my perfect world Joe loses to Danielson who loses to Swerve and it's honestly just because I want Swerve and Joe to remain heels and I don't like heel vs. heel matches lol I’m sure Joe vs Swerve would be great and I want Swerve to be champion but yeah I’m on the same page about heel vs heel. Maybe if he won it in a triple threat with Joe and Hangman.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jan 6, 2024 12:42:23 GMT -5
So listening to observer. Meltzer was talking about how the company desperately needs a new babyface with MJF and presumably Kenny out for an extended period of time. Here’s what he said He doesn’t know if the swerve act will work as a babyface Hangman can be “a” guy but he has proven he isn’t “thee” guy Danielson isn’t gonna be the guy cause he is wrapping up as a full time guy. You can make Mox the guy for a minute. It’s not gonna be Adam Copeland, it’s not gonna be Darby.
So why can’t it be Darby? He was very very over for the first two years of AEW and then they kinda put him on the back burner? Why can’t Black be the guy? What about turning Jay White? Thoughts?
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Post by Angusdacat on Jan 6, 2024 12:56:07 GMT -5
I think you're the only other person I've seen so far who doesn't want Swerve to be the next champ. In my perfect world Joe loses to Danielson who loses to Swerve and it's honestly just because I want Swerve and Joe to remain heels and I don't like heel vs. heel matches lol I'm pretty heavy in that camp as well. Within the last few months we've seen Swerve do a breaking and entering on a face's home, use cinderblocks repeatedly, etc. I like Swerve a lot and he should probably one of the next in line, but it's going to be hard to have a interesting feud when your heel is getting all the cheers. Austin in 1997 made it work
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Post by bWo on Jan 6, 2024 13:29:52 GMT -5
So listening to observer. Meltzer was talking about how the company desperately needs a new babyface with MJF and presumably Kenny out for an extended period of time. Here’s what he said He doesn’t know if ummm the swerve act will ummm will work as you know, as a babyface Hangman can be “a” guy but you know he has proven he ummmm that ummm you know, like that he isn’t “thee” guy Danielson isn’t gonna be the guy cause you know because um because he is wrapping up as you know as a full time guy sooooooo. You can make ummmm Mox the guy for like a minute and ummmmm. It’s it's it's not gonna be ummm Adam Copeland, and and and it’s not gonna be ummmmm Darby. Sooo, yeah. So why can’t it be Darby? He was very very over for the first two years of AEW and then they kinda put him on the back burner? Why can’t Black be the guy? What about turning Jay White? Thoughts? FIXED.
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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 6, 2024 14:29:00 GMT -5
It's 2024. I for the life of me don't get why some fans still want heels/babyfaces, and AEW/WWE still try to breathe life into that. Almost everyone is a "tweener" now because no matter WHAT the promotion wants you to be, some fans will like you and some will not. See: Cena, Roman, MJF, Cody, Jericho, etc.
I think in this day and age you should simply label wrestlers as "popular" or "not popular" and ignore their "personality". Swerve is POPULAR. If you want him to have the belt, do it. You don't need to wait for him to become a babyface, and you don't need to plan out some huge storyline so "heel" Swerve can hold the belt. Mox had it for a long time and he is VERY divided amongst the fans.
You could also just label a heel in 2024 as an "a-hole" and "annoying". See: Miz, Christian (who is massively over), Roman, etc. And their "opposite" would be "hot". See: Cole, LA Knight, etc.
Kayfabe is long dead. Can we please kill heels/faces? It just doesn't work anymore. I really can't think of one TRUE heel outside of Don Callis and he doesn't wrestle.
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Post by figurecollector on Jan 6, 2024 14:59:19 GMT -5
As requested. It is now at the at the top of the main section.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2024 15:20:25 GMT -5
It’s wrestling. The entire business is based on good guy vs. bad guy storytelling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2024 16:51:38 GMT -5
If Swerve isn’t champ sometime this year it’ll be a huge misstep
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Post by finnbalor1 on Jan 6, 2024 17:01:25 GMT -5
As much as I love Hangman I definitely don't want to see him beat Joe and Swerve take the title from him. Hanger is pretty cold right now,I don't see a huge upside in going this route personally. Don't get fancy with this and play games,put the title on the hottest guy in the company and lets move forward is what I'm hoping for.
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Post by vampiroporvida on Jan 6, 2024 17:26:12 GMT -5
I could go for a great Malakai run. And when Pac returns, boy that will be good.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2024 17:31:29 GMT -5
As much as I love Hangman I definitely don't want to see him beat Joe and Swerve take the title from him. Hanger is pretty cold right now,I don't see a huge upside in going this route personally. Don't get fancy with this and play games,put the title on the hottest guy in the company and lets move forward is what I'm hoping for. I think Hanger should go heel.I know he’s still over as a face but I’d rather see him freshen things before he gets stale, not saying he’s getting stale, but he’s gonna need to refresh soon or he will. The Swerve feud has been fantastic and I’m not sure how you turn him heel, or at least tweener.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 6, 2024 17:52:45 GMT -5
So listening to observer. Meltzer was talking about how the company desperately needs a new babyface with MJF and presumably Kenny out for an extended period of time. Here’s what he said He doesn’t know if the swerve act will work as a babyface Hangman can be “a” guy but he has proven he isn’t “thee” guy Danielson isn’t gonna be the guy cause he is wrapping up as a full time guy. You can make Mox the guy for a minute. It’s not gonna be Adam Copeland, it’s not gonna be Darby. So why can’t it be Darby? He was very very over for the first two years of AEW and then they kinda put him on the back burner? Why can’t Black be the guy? What about turning Jay White? Thoughts? Orange Cassidy or Eddie Kingston could be the guy. Both are beloved by a majority of the AEW audience and both can go. I won’t hear otherwise.
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Post by J-MANN on Jan 6, 2024 18:31:49 GMT -5
It's 2024. I for the life of me don't get why some fans still want heels/babyfaces, and AEW/WWE still try to breathe life into that. Almost everyone is a "tweener" now because no matter WHAT the promotion wants you to be, some fans will like you and some will not. See: Cena, Roman, MJF, Cody, Jericho, etc. I think in this day and age you should simply label wrestlers as "popular" or "not popular" and ignore their "personality". Swerve is POPULAR. If you want him to have the belt, do it. You don't need to wait for him to become a babyface, and you don't need to plan out some huge storyline so "heel" Swerve can hold the belt. Mox had it for a long time and he is VERY divided amongst the fans. You could also just label a heel in 2024 as an "a-hole" and "annoying". See: Miz, Christian (who is massively over), Roman, etc. And their "opposite" would be "hot". See: Cole, LA Knight, etc. Kayfabe is long dead. Can we please kill heels/faces? It just doesn't work anymore. I really can't think of one TRUE heel outside of Don Callis and he doesn't wrestle. Please tell me this was meant as a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2024 18:37:30 GMT -5
It's 2024. I for the life of me don't get why some fans still want heels/babyfaces, and AEW/WWE still try to breathe life into that. Almost everyone is a "tweener" now because no matter WHAT the promotion wants you to be, some fans will like you and some will not. See: Cena, Roman, MJF, Cody, Jericho, etc. I think in this day and age you should simply label wrestlers as "popular" or "not popular" and ignore their "personality". Swerve is POPULAR. If you want him to have the belt, do it. You don't need to wait for him to become a babyface, and you don't need to plan out some huge storyline so "heel" Swerve can hold the belt. Mox had it for a long time and he is VERY divided amongst the fans. You could also just label a heel in 2024 as an "a-hole" and "annoying". See: Miz, Christian (who is massively over), Roman, etc. And their "opposite" would be "hot". See: Cole, LA Knight, etc. Kayfabe is long dead. Can we please kill heels/faces? It just doesn't work anymore. I really can't think of one TRUE heel outside of Don Callis and he doesn't wrestle. Please tell me this was meant as a joke. Ain't it fun watching supposed fans not understand one thing they're a supposed fan of?
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Post by J-MANN on Jan 6, 2024 18:40:23 GMT -5
Please tell me this was meant as a joke. Ain't it fun watching supposed fans not understand one thing they're a supposed fan of? It’s unbelievable. I really hope it was an attempt at humor.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2024 19:55:12 GMT -5
Stokely is me crushing on Stat
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