Keck Collects
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Post by Keck Collects on Jul 28, 2024 9:18:47 GMT -5
Let's see how the room feels about Re-releases.
I'm curious where everyone stands on buying them, and how they feel about "values".
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Jul 28, 2024 9:31:18 GMT -5
Great for new collectors and folks who missed out. I buy some, but not all.
I don't care about anyone's grails, resale value, feelings, etc.
These are toys. Who cares if you can't sell your old RSC exclusive for as much on ebay.
I'd rather me and thousands of others have a shot at a figure to add to our collections.
If you're investing in toys and getting mad that a re-release affects your value then I have 0 sympathy for you.
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Post by J-MANN on Jul 28, 2024 9:42:00 GMT -5
I love them. Keep them coming as far as I’m concerned.
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MonsoonMan
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Post by MonsoonMan on Jul 28, 2024 9:42:43 GMT -5
i mean mattel can re-issue the whole line with new features for all i care and ill cherry pick the figures that i want.
my personal issue with re-issues and re-releases comes in when they plug them into a Build a Figure or a Build a Gimmick line. like oh, we have this new exciting line and we have a build a figure product here but 2/4 figures you need to buy we have already released and many collectors already have them, but we gave them new features or changed the formula a bit so it makes sense to buy them again.
i feel like OPs question is more regarding the vault and elite GH line and i think its silly to invest in action figures. i have been a lifelong collector---but literally at the end of the day they are plastic figures and should never be more than double the retail price. everyone has hobbies and art is whatever someone is willing to pay for it but if you have a SES punk in your collection just be proud of that fact. dont sit there and try to act like the figure you paid $30 from ringside with shipping is literally actually worth $400 and your status is elevated by owning such a piece and mattel re-releasing it has toppled your reality. people get silly with their hobbies and even more so with their money when they are passionate. im sure you could go to 90% of people who own that punk figure and tell them 'hey that figure is worth $400 on the market" and they would flood the market with their toys because they are not in the trenches enough to realize how much some people would pay for it now.
i guess back to my point it does suck as a consumer that if you have all of these original figures and buy the new ones---no longer need or want the older versions and go to sell them to re-coup a little bit on the investment and you cant get anything back. the market is now flooded with BOTH brand new versions from the manufacturer and older versions from everyone unloading their own. its a great market for new collectors as they get the best of both worlds.
i think one thing to remember is that its a bit of a twinkie on a stick conundrum. kudos to mattel for constantly trying to improve the line and make the product better for us but----take hogan for example. we had a good offering of hogan figures already in our collections, mattel pumped out some new stuff and then ALL OF THE SUDDEN now mattel has a new skintone for hogan and a new specific torso for hogan and new headsculpts for hogan. all of his previous figures are completely outdated by now-even the wrestlemania heritage one we got no less than two years ago. all it takes is for mattel to discover or implement a new technology and all the sudden all of our Rock figures are obselete, all of our Stone Cold figures are obselete, all of our Taker figures are obselete, ya know. and with the implementation of pinless joints they are making it harder for us to customize or undo some of their oversights in design.
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Post by oldschoolfool on Jul 28, 2024 10:01:16 GMT -5
I think it's great for collectors. I was happy to finally get a King Harley Race last year. There was nothing I was interested in with this recent showing tho.
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Post by attitudesback on Jul 28, 2024 10:04:45 GMT -5
It's a great thing to give people another chance to buy a figure - and in most cases a better version. Updated elbow joints, TruFX scans. Win/Win!
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Post by Sting on Jul 28, 2024 10:08:08 GMT -5
I missed a few with my hiatus from purchasing figures so to get stuff like eddie is really good for me. I like how they make the figures slightly different from the originals so that anyone who bought it the first time round still essentially has a different figure.
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Post by czw4life on Jul 28, 2024 10:08:24 GMT -5
I'd honestly rather see deep cuts getting made vs. re-releases but I get their business approach to them. Good for the new comers to catch up with what they want and hopefully lowers the cost of the originals so they have a choice of which version they want.
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Post by Rock-Is-King on Jul 28, 2024 10:17:39 GMT -5
I think they’re great for collectors that missed out on earlier figures as long as the wrestler or “ character” hasn’t been released 100 times over in the same attire, at that point it just becomes redundant … on the other hand take Harlem Heat for example, I totally missed the old Elite releases of them in red, I wanted them in my collection badly but wouldn’t ever pay those outrageous second market prices so I was ecstatic when I wondered into Walmart a few weeks ago & found both of their MNW figures in black attire … I know there’s also blue chase attire versions but I don’t care about those because the black attire with flames has always been my favorite of theirs & that’s exactly what I found … also, re-releases are usually updated versions with pinless joints, new head scans & things like that … in my opinion, re-releases are great as long as they’re not over done
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Post by coldblooded on Jul 28, 2024 10:21:17 GMT -5
Since nowadays most figures being re released now are updated with new tech, that's cool and welcoming.
But, re releasing figures from last 2 or even 3 years seems pretty dumb.
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Post by iamcline on Jul 28, 2024 10:22:08 GMT -5
Love them. Gives new collectors a chance to grab their favorites without having to sell the farm. Brings down the cost of entry into such a fun hobby.
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Post by thep1 on Jul 28, 2024 10:27:15 GMT -5
I admittedly railed against the re-release of Hart UE that I was fortunate enough to find at retail years ago. The re-release was the exact same, even down to the copyright date! And not even from a "it hurts the value perspective" because I couldn't care less about that. I just wanted to be able have proof that I found a tough and sought-after figure in the wild! However, I am all for them now because they are clearly marked and differentiated enough that they shouldn't bother anyone. Case-in-point, my Rock Amazon UE Series 6! Whenever The Rock and Batista GH UEs came out, I sent Steve a thank you on his Q&A page because those are how re-releases should be done. Similar to the regular release for those that missed out and different enough for those like me that has The Rock from Amazon that I can still hang my hat on! It's a win-win for all.
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Post by taserface on Jul 28, 2024 10:49:00 GMT -5
The people who collect MOC and still have these ‘grails’ should be fine. Those figures are still valuable. People on here can pretend that little plastic mean aren’t worth anything and shouldn’t be, but fact is they are and have been for a long time now.
The loose market, now that’s a killer
Luckily for last 4-5 years or so, I’ve strictly stuck to buying only what I like / guys I collect all of / etc. So after selling off most my collection multiple times since 2010, I haven’t sold a wrestling figure in a while
The rereleases are a great thing for me. Because there’s no way I was ever going to get SES Punk, DX Shawn, DM Shawn, and on and on. Very thankful for them
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Post by mrmonkeyofficial on Jul 28, 2024 11:28:46 GMT -5
I love it because it makes the people who try to sell the old ones for like 600 dollars upset
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Jul 28, 2024 12:09:13 GMT -5
I love them when they’re figures 5+ years old. Don’t like them when they’re figures that were released less than 4 years ago
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jul 28, 2024 12:16:07 GMT -5
Makes things seem less special. I lost a lot of interest because of it.
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Post by GoCanes84 on Jul 28, 2024 12:30:21 GMT -5
They suck. Make them with slightly different attires and we’ll talk. And if they had to, a couple here and there are fine, but they’re flooding us with them. Half of the Con of Cons was re-releases. And they’re everywhere - greatest hits, MNW, PPV sets. Rubbish - the con at the con of cons.
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Jul 28, 2024 12:35:31 GMT -5
Love em keep em coming
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Post by jt on Jul 28, 2024 13:16:07 GMT -5
As a newer collector I'm pretty fond of them. I can see why some people that have been collecting longer than me might not like them but I appreciate the chance to get stuff I didn't get the first time around with the bonus of updated articulation and likeness.
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Post by PJ on Jul 28, 2024 13:21:12 GMT -5
I have no problem with them. It saves me money as I don’t have to buy figures I already have. And the ones I don’t have are figures I didn’t want the first time so I still wouldn’t be buying the new releases. And if it hurts scalpers in the process it’s a plus for the hobby as then maybe I will actually find figures like the MNW on the pegs.
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