mbieszck
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Post by mbieszck on Dec 15, 2007 0:28:14 GMT -5
What is your Favorite INDY company? and why IWA is just for all them
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Post by xshawnxwilliamsx on Dec 15, 2007 1:35:43 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to go with a 4 way tie between ROH, PWG, IWA-MS, and Chikara on this one.
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Post by kc on Dec 15, 2007 12:49:39 GMT -5
Meh at the moment I'm really into BJW, NOAH. NJPW. But If I had to pick a US indy. I would have to go with ROH. I've lost all interest in CHIKARA as of late, and yeah CZW really needs no explanation.
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Post by zombiesx on Dec 15, 2007 14:09:22 GMT -5
I say IWA
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Post by Doomrider on Dec 15, 2007 14:22:45 GMT -5
CHIKARA, then PWG. Everything else is sub-par.
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Post by perilloboy123 on Dec 15, 2007 14:36:36 GMT -5
CHIKARA and PWG are my two favorites.
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Post by Lk™ on Dec 15, 2007 15:03:49 GMT -5
ROH, PWG and Chikara. In that order. I'd probably choose Chikara as my favourite if i had more of their dvd's, but for now PWG and ROH are my favorites.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Dec 15, 2007 15:30:05 GMT -5
ROH definitely, I love their roster and feel like they just put on great event after great event. CHIKARA comes in at a close second.
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Post by Heresy on Dec 15, 2007 15:34:07 GMT -5
ROH, easily
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Post by therealjswo on Dec 15, 2007 16:03:51 GMT -5
ROH isn't an indy.
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Post by CMD on Dec 15, 2007 20:47:15 GMT -5
Why? Because they are on PPV? They are still an Indy. They are still independently owned by Cary Silkin to my knowledge. The day it is no longer an independent company is the day they are bought by a larger parent organization. WWE before becoming a publicly traded company was owned by a parent organization in "Titan Sports, Inc", which Vince created to buy the WWF from his father back around 1980. TNA is owned by Panda Energy. Meanwhile, ROH is still independently owned by one guy, as opposed to a company. As for which is my favorite, back a while ago, I would say ROH. Lately though, I have been a tad out of the loop with ROH, but I am now firmly behind CHIKARA, so I'm going with CHIKARA on this. -CMD
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 15, 2007 21:45:31 GMT -5
Easily Chikara.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2007 21:46:27 GMT -5
roh fo sho
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Post by sincityhero on Dec 15, 2007 21:46:44 GMT -5
Why? Because they are on PPV? They are still an Indy. They are still independently owned by Cary Silkin to my knowledge. The day it is no longer an independent company is the day they are bought by a larger parent organization. WWE before becoming a publicly traded company was owned by a parent organization in "Titan Sports, Inc", which Vince created to buy the WWF from his father back around 1980. TNA is owned by Panda Energy. Meanwhile, ROH is still independently owned by one guy, as opposed to a company. As for which is my favorite, back a while ago, I would say ROH. Lately though, I have been a tad out of the loop with ROH, but I am now firmly behind CHIKARA, so I'm going with CHIKARA on this. -CMD Thank you. They keep swearing ROH still isnt considered an Indy.
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Post by kc on Dec 15, 2007 22:53:08 GMT -5
Why? Because they are on PPV? They are still an Indy. They are still independently owned by Cary Silkin to my knowledge. The day it is no longer an independent company is the day they are bought by a larger parent organization. WWE before becoming a publicly traded company was owned by a parent organization in "Titan Sports, Inc", which Vince created to buy the WWF from his father back around 1980. TNA is owned by Panda Energy. Meanwhile, ROH is still independently owned by one guy, as opposed to a company. As for which is my favorite, back a while ago, I would say ROH. Lately though, I have been a tad out of the loop with ROH, but I am now firmly behind CHIKARA, so I'm going with CHIKARA on this. -CMD Thank you. They keep swearing ROH still isnt considered an Indy. Yeah you better thank him, without his input you wouldn't have been able to defend yourself in this argument about who's Indy and who's not.
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Post by sincityhero on Dec 15, 2007 23:28:40 GMT -5
I dont need to. ROH is an Indy nuff said.
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Post by HHH316 on Dec 15, 2007 23:40:30 GMT -5
ROH
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Post by therealjswo on Dec 15, 2007 23:55:57 GMT -5
Why? Because they are on PPV? They are still an Indy. They are still independently owned by Cary Silkin to my knowledge. The day it is no longer an independent company is the day they are bought by a larger parent organization. WWE before becoming a publicly traded company was owned by a parent organization in "Titan Sports, Inc", which Vince created to buy the WWF from his father back around 1980. TNA is owned by Panda Energy. Meanwhile, ROH is still independently owned by one guy, as opposed to a company. -CMD There is no difference between being independently owned by one person and being owned my one company. ROH is not an independent company where they run shows with random guys. They are a full touring company with contracts and pay per view. They fall into the category of TNA and WWE, being the third of the new big three. End of story.
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Post by CMD on Dec 16, 2007 3:20:52 GMT -5
I started to recognize WWE, TNA, and ROH as the new "Big 3" around 2 or 3 years ago.
I would like to hear what your definition of an "Indy" is. All "Indy" is is an abbreviation for an independent promotion. An approporiate definition for"Independent" in this case is " Not dependent on or affiliated with a larger or controlling entity" (courtesy dictionary.com), as such, TNA is owned by Panda Energy, which is considered a larger entity. All that the status of being an "independent" promotion boils down to is ownership. It's not independent when owned by a larger company. If it's owned by one person (or in the case of PWG, multiple people who all have an equal share of power) not answering to any higher parent company in a place of authority, I consider that independent. ROH, while being a higher calibur promotion, I still consider an indy. Yes, they have PPV, yes, they have contracted talent, but it is still owned by one person. It sounds like you have all sorts of connotations placed on the word "indy", like random guys wrestling for little money, draws of under 100 people, and the only exposure being live shows, and low budgety DVDs, but, once again, all "indy" is is an abbrevation for independent. ROH is independent from any larger parent organization.
-CMD
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2007 14:36:11 GMT -5
roh is fiercely independent.
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