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Post by baorulez on Oct 12, 2007 12:43:33 GMT -5
I had to open up a post for this. There is an ongoing debate about Jakks license and why they can't make a Legends of Wrestling game with THQ with all of their Legends contracts. For that debate check out the Video Games board.
Now speaking of Jakks and figures.
Fallenhero had this to say:
There isn't a merchandise section and figures are a merchandise and to keep it with the Jakks/figure posting, could you imagine Jakks having an Austin and Rock Classic Superstars but not having a Hulk Hogan?
I am looking for someone to assist in defending my point because this just amazed me. Just a simple yes or no would be perfect. Can you imagine no Hulk Hogan in CS line.
Hope I didn't waste anyones time, I just couldn't let this go without having a post about it.
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Post by The Watcher on Oct 12, 2007 12:49:08 GMT -5
The CS line wouldnt be right if Hogan wasnt in it.
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Post by addam on Oct 12, 2007 12:49:32 GMT -5
well, hogan is definitely a legend, but austin & the rock definitely are too.
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Post by baorulez on Oct 12, 2007 12:50:46 GMT -5
But you can't tell me that Hogan hasn't pushed a LOT more merchandise than Rock and Austin. I mean Rock pushed merchandise for a few good years (once he lost his lame gimmicks) and Austin pushed merchandise for a few good years. Hogan has pushed merchandise for DECADES.
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Post by carly1988 on Oct 12, 2007 12:54:47 GMT -5
If you count their whole career theres no doubt that Hogan has pushed more. Also even during their "big runs" Austins only lasted 3-4 years where as Hogan, Hulkamania and nWo lasted for close to 20
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Post by The Assassin on Oct 12, 2007 12:55:02 GMT -5
i'm not sure what the question is, but Hogan is THE greatest wrestling star EVER in terms of popularity and draw, that is a fact. austin and rock aren't as big as hogan, noone is.
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Post by Rabid Heat on Oct 12, 2007 13:00:10 GMT -5
As much as I hate Hogan, I would say that Hogan, Austin and The Rock pound-for-pound are all on a relatively even playing field (considering when each of them debuted and the time each of them have had to build up their reputations), but Hogan comes slightly higher for the simple fact that has been around twice as long as either of the other two. My point is, to say that Austin and The Rock are legends and Hogan isn't is a very new n0.0bish comment. And this is coming from someone who can't stand the guy! Hogan is THE greatest wrestling star EVER in terms of popularity and draw, that is a fact. Well, a statement like that is technically never a 'fact', but it's a darn good opinion, which logically has to be considered pretty damn close to a fact by just about anyone.  In short, you're right, lol. |
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Post by vandutch on Oct 12, 2007 13:05:00 GMT -5
Since all three are basically retired from the ring and past their prime that you can look back and easily say that Hogan is still the top wrestler of all time. I think Austin is second since he really changed the landscape of wrestling when he broke out and Rock would be third because of his main stream appeal (movies). Back to the thread, the CS line wouldn't be complete without having Hogan figures in it.
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Post by addam on Oct 12, 2007 13:06:46 GMT -5
But you can't tell me that Hogan hasn't pushed a LOT more merchandise than Rock and Austin. I mean Rock pushed merchandise for a few good years (once he lost his lame gimmicks) and Austin pushed merchandise for a few good years. Hogan has pushed merchandise for DECADES. well, i don't think there's really any way to tell who moved more merchandise. while it's true that hogan has been consistently moving merchandise for years and years, when the rock and austin were in their primes, i think their stuff moved at a much faster pace than any time in hogans career since wrestling was so huge during the attitude era. so, i guess my synopsis would be overall that over the course of their respective careers hogan has sold more merchandise, BUT, if you match up austin+the rocks merchandise sales during the attitude era vs. hogans during the height of his popularity for a similar length of time, then austin & the rock would win. wow, i hope that makes sense. so, hogan wins, but only becuase of his longevity. |
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Post by Lebowski on Oct 12, 2007 13:10:06 GMT -5
Just so you guys know, it is official that Stone Cold Steve Austin Made more money for the WWE in his run as Stone Cold than Hulk Hogan did in his run with the company.
That, however, is overall. That would include PPV (But remember, there were a lot more PPV's per year for Austin than Hogan) T-shirts, Figures etc etc.
However, if the Classic line had no Hulk Hogan it wouldn't make sense. The line would be void pretty early. There would be no point if possibly the biggest icon of WWE's past wasn't associated.
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Post by Cammi Oh on Oct 12, 2007 13:15:33 GMT -5
To this day, when people think of pro wrestling that don't watch wrestling, the names that people mention are ALWAYS Hogan, sometimes Andre the Giant, or Macho Man or Freddie Blassie.
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Post by akawildfire on Oct 12, 2007 13:39:38 GMT -5
Just so you guys know, it is official that Stone Cold Steve Austin Made more money for the WWE in his run as Stone Cold than Hulk Hogan did in his run with the company. That, however, is overall. That would include PPV (But remember, there were a lot more PPV's per year for Austin than Hogan) T-shirts, Figures etc etc. Only in the wwf/wwe records that is correct that austin made more $ then hogan but lets not forget that during the height of Hogans career the only way to get hogan merchandise was from live shows or from mail in orders with the exception of figures, shirts and some other things. The merchandise was very limited compared to the austin era with about a million more things to buy for austin then hogan and the availability is astronomically different aswell. But if you sit down and figure the TOTAL merchandising earnings between the 2 Then hogan blows austin out of the water (he had wwf hulkamania era, wcw/nwo era and the wwe legend era).......... so if you like him or not Hogan is the #1 guy for the classic line, without him it wouldn't be complete....... |
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Post by The Assassin on Oct 12, 2007 13:50:45 GMT -5
Just so you guys know, it is official that Stone Cold Steve Austin Made more money for the WWE in his run as Stone Cold than Hulk Hogan did in his run with the company. That, however, is overall. That would include PPV (But remember, there were a lot more PPV's per year for Austin than Hogan) T-shirts, Figures etc etc. However, if the Classic line had no Hulk Hogan it wouldn't make sense. The line would be void pretty early. There would be no point if possibly the biggest icon of WWE's past wasn't associated. hmm, didn't know that, interesting to hear. [rest of post not directed at KKV] but hogan is still the biggest star ever in wrestling, it's plain insanity to disagree with that. i mean just like Ric Flair said on the hogan anthology dvd, ask anyone in the world who Hulk Hogan is, and nearly everyone will know. Nowhere near as many people will know who any other wrestler is. |
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Post by carly1988 on Oct 12, 2007 13:51:03 GMT -5
Just so you guys know, it is official that Stone Cold Steve Austin Made more money for the WWE in his run as Stone Cold than Hulk Hogan did in his run with the company. That, however, is overall. That would include PPV (But remember, there were a lot more PPV's per year for Austin than Hogan) T-shirts, Figures etc etc. Only in the wwf/wwe records that is correct that austin made more $ then hogan but lets not forget that during the height of Hogans career the only way to get hogan merchandise was from live shows or from mail in orders with the exception of figures, shirts and some other things. The merchandise was very limited compared to the austin era with about a million more things to buy for austin then hogan and the availability is astronomically different aswell. But if you sit down and figure the TOTAL merchandising earnings between the 2 Then hogan blows austin out of the water (he had wwf hulkamania era, wcw/nwo era and the wwe legend era).......... so if you like him or not Hogan is the #1 guy for the classic line, without him it wouldn't be complete....... Also something people are forgetting is for 10 Year hogan pushed Hulkamania merchandise. But lets think about the Attitude era...Not everyone had Austin 3:16 shirts but Nitro AND Raw both had nWo shirts in the crowd. You have to consider everything nWo and Hulkamania when counting Hogan...Thats the 2 biggest things in pro wrestling |
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Post by The Assassin on Oct 12, 2007 13:54:05 GMT -5
Also something people are forgetting is for 10 Year hogan pushed Hulkamania merchandise. But lets think about the Attitude era...Not everyone had Austin 3:16 shirts but Nitro AND Raw both had nWo shirts in the crowd. You have to consider everything nWo and Hulkamania when counting Hogan...Thats the 2 biggest things in pro wrestling yeah Hogan and nWo were the 2 biggest people/storyline things ever in wrestling IMO too, but I'd be careful talking about the "2nd" biggest thing, we'll end up in a huge debate with DX-fanboys.. |
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Post by naparo01 on Oct 12, 2007 13:54:43 GMT -5
comparing hogan to rock austin you must take thigns tinto consideration.
Merch wasn't as big as it is now. So hogan was an inovater in merchandise and licensing.
Now its so common that it is a bit easier.
Hogan's carear totaly blows theirs away.
Rock wreslted wat from 95 to 2001 off and on?
Hogan started big time in the 70's and still goes from time to time.
No comparison if you ask me
brother!
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Post by cjc123 on Oct 12, 2007 14:30:34 GMT -5
All I know is, JR has gone on record saying Steve Austin has earned the most money in wrestling.
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Post by taker1 on Oct 12, 2007 14:37:30 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan is the biggest name is wrestling history. Anybody who says otherwise is an idiot.
Austin & Rock were very popular in the wrestling community, but Hogan has become a household name throughout the world.
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Post by megawarlord on Oct 12, 2007 14:45:36 GMT -5
Hogan is the best off all time and everyone knows it.With out Hogan there would not be WWF,WCW, NWO , he is a legend that still puts out for his fans when ever he can .The Rock is a sell out ! Austin also never showed up to RAW in San Diego pulling that ultimate warrior crap on all his fans  Austin and rock |
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Post by carly1988 on Oct 12, 2007 16:15:34 GMT -5
All I know is, JR has gone on record saying Steve Austin has earned the most money in wrestling. JR has also gone on record as sayin he belives Oklahoma is the greatest college football team ever and his BBQ sauce is better then all other...Both statements i think we all agree are false |
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