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Post by dustin on Jul 22, 2007 22:29:21 GMT -5
k9 stfu.
horrible ppv, wwe did a great job of making the cw belt look even more meaningless (if that's possible)
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Post by k9c93 on Jul 22, 2007 22:31:19 GMT -5
k9 stfu. horrible ppv, wwe did a great job of making the cw belt look even more meaningless (if that's possible) wtf did i do?
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Post by Mark on Jul 22, 2007 22:32:08 GMT -5
like any of yall gave a damn about the title before
I mean techincally he is a cruiserweight
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Post by CBT on Jul 22, 2007 22:38:36 GMT -5
like any of yall gave a damn about the title before I mean techincally he is a cruiserweight Isn't he billed as weighing more though? Wiki says john morrison is 219...
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Post by Juba on Jul 22, 2007 22:39:57 GMT -5
like any of yall gave a damn about the title before I mean techincally he is a cruiserweight actually i did give a damn about that title...
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Post by j2dacversion3 on Jul 22, 2007 22:46:44 GMT -5
Anyone care to post quick results? I'd appreciate it.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 22, 2007 22:48:51 GMT -5
I'm really glad I didn't order this Pay Per View. I remember even back in 2004, I ordered EVERY single PPV because the card was so good. Now, I actually find myself watching more for the undercard and other matches and specifically DON'T order some events because of the main event. What's the point? Really...I have no interest in seeing John Cena win a Hulk Hogan-esque match twice a month and having to pay $40 on each occassion. And that's not even a knock on Hogan, because I have always been a Hogan fan. I just don't understand why I would possibly want to see a rehashed gimmick that worked in the 1980s with a far less entertaining wrestler. I just really, really hate what wrestling has become. And to all of you who will say "watch TNA/ ROH/ Japan," it's really not that easy. The WWE is the biggest wrestling company on the planet that we've all grown up watching. It's hard to just say " it...the product sucks and I quit" so easily. I never thought I'd actually want to see a Triple H title run, but I'm saying it now. I would much rather prefer for Triple H to go on one of his annual 2-year title reigns that seeing this crap with Cena continue. I don't even want to get into the whole thing about CM Punk losing because it just pisses me off even more...
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Post by k9c93 on Jul 22, 2007 22:49:16 GMT -5
Anyone care to post quick results? I'd appreciate it. United States Champion MVP def. Matt Hardy Hornswoggle wins a Cruiserweight Open (new champion) Carlito def. Sandman Women's Champion Candice Michelle def. Melina Intercontinental Champion Umaga def. Jeff Hardy ECW World Champion John Morrison def. CM Punk Randy Orton def. Dusty Rhodes (Texas Bull Rope Match) World Heavyweight Champion The Great Khali def. Batista and Kane (Triple Threat Match) WWE Champion John Cena def. Bobby Lashley
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Post by J12 on Jul 22, 2007 22:51:14 GMT -5
Sounded absolutely terrible. Usually I just avoid reading results and watch the show the next day, this time I didn't even bother, nor will I.
Giving Hornswoggle the Cruiserweight title is an absolute joke. The title is now a joke. The division is now a joke. Who is writing this garbage, honestly.
Khali retains. I don't even need to say anything else. This, in and of it self, is enough to make me to refuse to give them a second chance.
The only redeemable thing about the show is that they didn't put the title on Bobby Lashley. Please tell me they made him look incredibly weak?
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Post by Lk™ on Jul 22, 2007 22:52:06 GMT -5
Anyone care to post quick results? I'd appreciate it. cena def. lashley khali def. kane (& batista) orton def. rhodes hornswoggle won the cruiserweight open carlito def. sandman candice def. melina mvp def. matt hardy umaga def. jeff hardy morrison def. punk
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Post by j2dacversion3 on Jul 22, 2007 22:52:24 GMT -5
Hornswoggle? Ugh, I can see why people are pissed.
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Post by Lk™ on Jul 22, 2007 22:54:14 GMT -5
Hornswoggle? Ugh, I can see why people are pissed. yeah, noble definately should've won. easily the best cruiserweight they have.
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Post by elviswashere2006 on Jul 22, 2007 22:55:32 GMT -5
That seemed like a bad Pay Per View. I mean they had 7 titles on the line on that Pay Per View and of those 6 titles, Cena, Khali, Morrison, Candice, MVP, and Umaga all retained. Now it almost made the PPV a moot point. Who wants to pay for a PPV only to see Hornswoggle be the only new champion? Not to mention the current title scene is probably in the worst shape I have ever seen especially with the 3 World Champs... you know back in the day. championships changed hands maybe once or twice a year. so For someone like myself who has been watching wrestling since 78. I actually Like. its promotions like WCW and TNA who change championships so often it gives Wannabe Wrestling fans a fit of rage. almost like half the fans now have ADD. I mean so what. So if Umaga or Cena or Kahli lose the belts at summerslam it will make it more important and give the fans a bigger reason to cheer. its called chasing a championship. I dont mind seeing CENA as champion for a year. Hell Hogan held it for YEARS. and nobody complained. FLAIR held the NWA for YEARS and nobody complained. But this new generation of so called wrestling fans bitch about every single little thing. I mean I had to sit through Bastian Booger matches, Aldo Montoya matches. Lazer Tron matches, Chucky in WCW. Glacier a Mortal Kombat rip off. A Kiss Demon, A dungeon of doom with guys named Shark, Zodiac, the Yeti. I mean come on. you cry about really dumb things. honestly. Its been said a million times. and I will say it again DONT LIKE IT. DONT WATCH IT. but please Stop Pretending to hate a PPV just because everyone else does. make a Claim that your gonna stop watching the WWE and then the next day we see you in the RAW thread saying the exact same thing again and again. I am sorry. but I honestly think the IWC and half the fans are to blame for whats happening to Pro Wrestling. NOT THE WWE. Blame yourselves. You jumped in 95 from WWF To WCW and ECW and made them popular. then you jumped back to the WWF from WCW and ECW. and made them even more popular. and because of this both WCW and ECW sank because the fans stopped buying. GET IT!!! This is the WWE forum. LET the WWE fans enjoy the WWE without someone trying to be negative every single day. its getting annoying oh AND HAVE A NICE DAY. lol
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Post by CBT on Jul 22, 2007 22:56:41 GMT -5
Hornswoggle? Ugh, I can see why people are pissed. yeah, noble definately should've won. easily the best cruiserweight they have. I thought with the open invitation, we'd be0 be seeing the return of Rey Mysterio.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 22, 2007 22:58:56 GMT -5
Oh well, this PPV may have flat-out sucked, but in a way we should celebrate. We should celebrate because tonight is the absolute last friggin' Pay-Per-View we see of Cena winning at the end.
Trust me, it's all going to end come SummerSlam and I for one, can't freaking wait. Cena's reign of terror FINALLY comes to an end. I just hope it's Orton that beats him.
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Post by J12 on Jul 22, 2007 22:59:28 GMT -5
That seemed like a bad Pay Per View. I mean they had 7 titles on the line on that Pay Per View and of those 6 titles, Cena, Khali, Morrison, Candice, MVP, and Umaga all retained. Now it almost made the PPV a moot point. Who wants to pay for a PPV only to see Hornswoggle be the only new champion? Not to mention the current title scene is probably in the worst shape I have ever seen especially with the 3 World Champs... you know back in the day. championships changed hands maybe once or twice a year. so For someone like myself who has been watching wrestling since 78. I actually Like. its promotions like WCW and TNA who change championships so often it gives Wannabe Wrestling fans a fit of rage. almost like half the fans now have ADD. I mean so what. So if Umaga or Cena or Kahli lose the belts at summerslam it will make it more important and give the fans a bigger reason to cheer. its called chasing a championship. I dont mind seeing CENA as champion for a year. Hell Hogan held it for YEARS. and nobody complained. FLAIR held the NWA for YEARS and nobody complained. But this new generation of so called wrestling fans bitch about every single little thing. I mean I had to sit through Bastian Booger matches, Aldo Montoya matches. Lazer Tron matches, Chucky in WCW. Glacier a Mortal Kombat rip off. A Kiss Demon, A dungeon of doom with guys named Shark, Zodiac, the Yeti. I mean come on. you cry about really dumb things. honestly. Its been said a million times. and I will say it again DONT LIKE IT. DONT WATCH IT. but please Stop Pretending to hate a PPV just because everyone else does. make a Claim that your gonna stop watching the WWE and then the next day we see you in the RAW thread saying the exact same thing again and again. I am sorry. but I honestly think the IWC and half the fans are to blame for whats happening to Pro Wrestling. NOT THE WWE. Blame yourselves. You jumped in 95 from WWF To WCW and ECW and made them popular. then you jumped back to the WWF from WCW and ECW. and made them even more popular. and because of this both WCW and ECW sank because the fans stopped buying. GET IT!!! This is the WWE forum. LET the WWE fans enjoy the WWE without someone trying to be negative every single day. its getting annoying oh AND HAVE A NICE DAY. lol The argument against title reign lengths is currently irrelevant because we're dealing with people who don't deserve to be champion, namely The Great Khali. If you have a good champion and not a single title changes hands, there is NOTHING wrong with that. The point is, The Great Khali is an absolute disgrace to the World Championship, the WWE, and professional wrestling in general.
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Post by Stevo on Jul 22, 2007 23:02:04 GMT -5
Hornswoggle as the CW Champion? Thats like a WCW writing move. (Oklahoma, anyone?)
Sounds absolutely awful. Was there a stand-out match on the card, or just some decent ones and a bunch of bullcrap? 7 minutes for the Bullrope match? Khali retaining? A midget as CW Champion? ARE THE WRITERS STONED WHEN THEY COME UP WITH THIS?
If a WWE writer isn't shot for the GAB results, then it proves life isn't fair.
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Post by gothackedagain on Jul 22, 2007 23:06:46 GMT -5
You guys bitch too much
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Post by elviswashere2006 on Jul 22, 2007 23:11:56 GMT -5
Wait and who says which Superstar deserves the championships. what the so called Fans. I mean hell if the fans had their way. the championship would change hands every other day. because thats how often the flavor of the month changes. CM Punk would be champion. Worlds Greatest Tag team would be TT Champs, Matt Hardy would be United States champion. Jeff Hardy would be IC champion. Kennedy would be the WWE champion, Etc Etc. and as soon as everyone jumps on a diffrent bandwagon. someone else suddenly deserves the belt. You say Kahli doesnt deserve the championship. DID Andre deserve it. or how about David Arquette. Kahli is a Giant. he is a monster. so as champion it makes some David come along trying to slay the goliath. But what if Kane or Batista won. the fans would get rallyed up saying they dont serve it either. But again. Who says who deserves what. A Monster wins the championship in a battle royal. retains against two other big monsters. its not a bad story. its a giant winning matches. doesnt matter if he swats people or kicks them. he isnt supposed to do a frogsplash or drop kick. he is a GIANT. Giants Swat and Kick thats about it. go back and watch Andre the Giant matches. show me him doing a drop kick or a figure four.
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Post by Stevo on Jul 22, 2007 23:12:41 GMT -5
That seemed like a bad Pay Per View. I mean they had 7 titles on the line on that Pay Per View and of those 6 titles, Cena, Khali, Morrison, Candice, MVP, and Umaga all retained. Now it almost made the PPV a moot point. Who wants to pay for a PPV only to see Hornswoggle be the only new champion? Not to mention the current title scene is probably in the worst shape I have ever seen especially with the 3 World Champs... you know back in the day. championships changed hands maybe once or twice a year. so For someone like myself who has been watching wrestling since 78. I actually Like. its promotions like WCW and TNA who change championships so often it gives Wannabe Wrestling fans a fit of rage. almost like half the fans now have ADD. I mean so what. So if Umaga or Cena or Kahli lose the belts at summerslam it will make it more important and give the fans a bigger reason to cheer. its called chasing a championship. I dont mind seeing CENA as champion for a year. Hell Hogan held it for YEARS. and nobody complained. FLAIR held the NWA for YEARS and nobody complained. But this new generation of so called wrestling fans bitch about every single little thing. I mean I had to sit through Bastian Booger matches, Aldo Montoya matches. Lazer Tron matches, Chucky in WCW. Glacier a Mortal Kombat rip off. A Kiss Demon, A dungeon of doom with guys named Shark, Zodiac, the Yeti. I mean come on. you cry about really dumb things. honestly. Its been said a million times. and I will say it again DONT LIKE IT. DONT WATCH IT. but please Stop Pretending to hate a PPV just because everyone else does. make a Claim that your gonna stop watching the WWE and then the next day we see you in the RAW thread saying the exact same thing again and again. I am sorry. but I honestly think the IWC and half the fans are to blame for whats happening to Pro Wrestling. NOT THE WWE. Blame yourselves. You jumped in 95 from WWF To WCW and ECW and made them popular. then you jumped back to the WWF from WCW and ECW. and made them even more popular. and because of this both WCW and ECW sank because the fans stopped buying. GET IT!!! This is the WWE forum. LET the WWE fans enjoy the WWE without someone trying to be negative every single day. its getting annoying oh AND HAVE A NICE DAY. lol Are you brain-dead, or have you not seen the IWC speak? Have you ever heard of Wrestlecrap? If not, let me explain. Back in the older WWF and WCW days, there were writing decisions so bad, that today the only thing we can do is laugh at them and say "those were the days (of stupidity.)" Now, this ENTIRE PPV has Wrestlecrap written all over it. Years later, we may laugh about this, but for the today and now, it is bullcrap! Do you think people loved Robocop in WCW, or Arquette winning the belt, or the silly storylines with the Dungeon of Doom, or Bastion Booger, or any of that? No! Die-hard fans saw it as a disgrace, but casual fans laughed it off. And buddy, there are very few fans here on WF who can laugh it off. So, if you don't like hearing the logical negatives of a PPV, don't log on to WF. DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T LOG ON! And maybe we wouldn't bitch if the WWE gave us someone who can hold a match to hold the belt for a year. RVD? Edge? Jericho? Benoit? Guerrero? Maybe after a while, there would be a little bitching, but not to the extent that Khali, Cena, and Umaga get and deserve. Khali holding the belt for more than a day is a crime, and Cena has had two logical title defense in the past year. Everything else was a PPV tag match or some "monster" bullcrap.
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