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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2007 16:09:03 GMT -5
Am I the only that likes Roxxi
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Post by tnafan4life on Oct 17, 2007 16:10:06 GMT -5
Did you SERIOUSLY just compare Traci Brooks to Candice? Moreover, did he seriously just compare Beth to Kong? Beth is good in the ring, but Amazing Kong she ain't. This guy sounds like the type to drool at the screen whenever Candice Michelle or Maria learn a new move. He probably didn't even watch TNA until they created the women's division. Move over to... you just said Kong isn't good in the ring. WOW@
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2007 16:11:09 GMT -5
You misinterpreted. I was trying to say that Beth is not as good as Kong.
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Post by tnafan4life on Oct 17, 2007 16:23:11 GMT -5
Oh! I see what you mean now. My mistake I thought you meant that Beth was good but Kong wasn't good. Sorry.
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Post by Daz on Oct 17, 2007 16:28:37 GMT -5
I would like to take objection to Gails comments. While I agree the WWE womens division isn't as good as it has been, and their is a lot of fat that needs to be trimmed, TNAs isn't much better than the WWEs. Amazing Kong = Beth Phoenix Gail Kim = Mickie James Roxxi LeVeaux (she sucks!) = Torrie Wilson Jacqueline = Jillian Talia = Melina ODB = Victoria Christy = Maria Ms. Brooks = Candice Shelly = skank who will do anything for attention/money with supposed wrestling abilities I have yet to see. Lent absolutely nothing to the WWE womans division while she was there. I forgot the tenth knockout, but do you really need 10 in the chase anyways? I think its moreso the fact that the divas are on 2 different shows and the booking is terrible on both of them. If all the divas were on the same show it would be a lot better. Dude, did you say Nikki Roxx sucks? Invest in some SHIMMER. if anything Christy would be the equivalent to Torrie. And your analysis is actually very off the mark, considering it's be three weeks since most of the knockouts started with tna (new ones anyways) and if you checked out a lot of their indy stuff, you'd realize these woman are wrestlers, then hot chicks. not hot chicks trying to be wrestlers. in all honesty the woman's division is one of the few things TNA is doing right.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2007 16:41:08 GMT -5
I swear this guy has no clue about anything indy and didn't start watching TNA until he heard there was a women's division. That post alone says it all.
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Post by mck on Oct 17, 2007 16:56:41 GMT -5
Am I the only that likes Roxxi I like Roxxi ...
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Post by thegalaxy on Oct 18, 2007 0:22:57 GMT -5
So far I like the women's division but I think they will push Donkey Kong too far.
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Post by tnafan4life on Oct 18, 2007 0:37:16 GMT -5
So far I like the women's division but I think they will push Donkey Kong too far. What's wrong with pushing talent? The last time I checked that's a good thing.
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Post by thegalaxy on Oct 18, 2007 0:41:37 GMT -5
So far I like the women's division but I think they will push Donkey Kong too far. What's wrong with pushing talent? The last time I checked that's a good thing. They shouldn't invest all their time and effort into pushing one knockout. What if Kong gets hurt? What is her monster push becomes stale? Then you'll have killed off the majority of the division.
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Post by James St. James on Oct 18, 2007 9:37:04 GMT -5
You're right, I never watched TNA on a regular basis before they had a womens division, because TNA sucks a fat one (I've seen enough Impacts to know that) I just really like womens wrestling and will put up with a six sided ring to see it. I think Gail sounded pretty disrespectful, unnecessarily so, as womens wrestling doesn't interest most people no matter how good it is.
I meant that Beth and Kong play similiar "monster" roles. Of course Beth is skinnier and more attractive than Kong, otherwise WWE wouldn't hire her. I say a good call on WWEs part, because if you don't have fat chicks on your TV show, then they can't accidentally flash their titties.
I'm really into TNAs womens division, I hope it goes well, and in all my years of watching wrestling (since 1999) there has only been 1 womans division, so choices are something I've never experienced.
Really I guess my big point is "just because WWEs divas have huge boobs and skinny waists doesn't mean their talent should be degraded to make the fat chick who is really talented make herself feel better about also being fat."
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Post by tnafan4life on Oct 18, 2007 11:17:25 GMT -5
Are you calling Gail Kim fat? Because, if you are you need to get your eyes checked. She's not degrading anyone - what she was doing was putting over the TNA's Women division by saying the WWE wants one look while TNA doesn't care about your look. Which is why WWE's divas are "cookie-cutter" while TNA's isn't & has women of all shapes, sizes & Nationalites. She's not disrespecting anyone, she's not degrading anyone, it looks like you've been brainwashed by the WWE product. Also, watching iMPACT just for the womens division is f'en stupid & proves you never saw any of the TNA Women matches before.. so here:
Lockdown 2007: Ms.Jackie Moore vs. Gail Kim
TNA iMPACT: Jackie Moore vs. Ms.Brooks vs. Gail Kim
TNA iMPACT Jackie Moore vs. Gail Kim
TNA iMPACT: TNA Knockout Knockdown Street Fight: Jackie Moore vs. Gail Kim.
TNA 2004: Alexis Laree vs. Trinity
TNA Victory Road 2007: Gail Kim & Eric Young vs. Traci Brooks & Robert Roode
TNA Hard Justice 2006: Serielda vs. Gail Kim
TNA Knockouts DVD: Gail Kim vs. Traci Brooks
Check those out. If this doesn't tell you the Knockout division is great then you need to just step away from TNA.
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Post by zzeduardozz on Oct 18, 2007 12:00:45 GMT -5
What was Kong's malfunction??
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Post by tnafan4life on Oct 18, 2007 12:03:05 GMT -5
What was Kong's malfunction?? She got threw over the top rope & when she was going down her top came up & all you saw was her tits. I guess she's never heard of a bra nor a shirt.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Oct 18, 2007 12:27:29 GMT -5
Gail Kim has been constantly putting on great matches since her heel turn in 03, before that she was shaky at first in WWE but settled down into what I believe is the best Womans Wrestler in wrestling right now.
In My Opinion.
The Match they had on Impact with I think a 5-way? Or such with Brooks,Gail,Roxxi,Hemme and Moore was fantastic, best Womens match in a long time in all of Main Stream Wrestling....
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Post by James St. James on Oct 18, 2007 17:19:44 GMT -5
I was calling Amazing Kong fat, because she is. And all of those matches you just linked me to feature a current WWE diva, and with the exception of Ms. Brooks, all have at one point been in the WWE.
What I'm saying is, as far as a look goes, TNA is pretty cookie cutter as well. Gail Kim, Traci Brooks, Christy Hemme, Roxxi, Talia and Shelly are all skinny models with various boob sizes. Jacqueline and Amazing Kong are the only two that don't fit into it (Jackie being very muscular, Amazing Kong being very fat)
Kristal is african american
Jillian is blonde, borderline chubby, has huge knockers.
Melina is hispanic, has a Jennifer Lopez type body
Candice is very exotic looking, I think she is costa rican.
Beth Phoenix is muscular
Mickie is shorter and thick all around, has a big ass.
Maria is skinny and has tiny boobs
Michelle McCool is anorexic skinny, has big boobs
Torrie is tall and has a fitness model body
Victoria is similar to Torrie, just more muscular.
So, they are all shapes and sizes, different races, and have different gimmicks. I felt that Gail was knocking WWE just because they are nice to look at. The only justifiable example (without a similiar WWE counterpart) is Amazing Kong who is pretty much obese and noone wants to see that anyways. Turning models into wrestlers isn't a bad thing. Look at Trish Stratus, she is probably the most popular female wrestler in the last 10 years, and was very fun to watch. Would she have been popular if she was fat? No. People don't give a crapabout womens wrestling so there only chance to make it to the top is based on their looks, which people DO give a crapabout.
The only person I'm knocking here is Amazing Kong, because I hate monster characters. I hate Big Daddy V, I hate Khali, I hate Umaga, they just take up too much space and aren't interesting to me.
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Post by tnafan4life on Oct 18, 2007 17:39:18 GMT -5
I was calling Amazing Kong fat, because she is. And all of those matches you just linked me to feature a current WWE diva, and with the exception of Ms. Brooks, all have at one point been in the WWE. Are you ing kidding me? They've been in WWE & got FIRED/RELEASED/QUIT - God forbid someone try to get another job. It's like being fired from Home Depot & want another job like that so what do you do? You get a job at Lowes. It's the same thing. Don't blame them for WWE's ups. They are the ones who released talent not TNA. What I'm saying is, as far as a look goes, TNA is pretty cookie cutter as well. Gail Kim, Traci Brooks, Christy Hemme, Roxxi, Talia and Shelly are all skinny models with various boob sizes. Jacqueline and Amazing Kong are the only two that don't fit into it (Jackie being very muscular, Amazing Kong being very fat) You don't get it do you? What she means by cookie-cutter is that they look DIFFRENT than each other weather that is their nationally or shape or size. Are you going to sit here & tell me that Traci Brooks looks just like Gail Kim with her size? No, you're not. That's what she means.Kristal is african american Jillian is blonde, borderline chubby, has huge knockers. Melina is hispanic, has a Jennifer Lopez type body Candice is very exotic looking, I think she is costa rican. Beth Phoenix is muscular Mickie is shorter and thick all around, has a big ass. Maria is skinny and has tiny boobs Michelle McCool is anorexic skinny, has big boobs Torrie is tall and has a fitness model body Victoria is similar to Torrie, just more muscular. *bangs head agianst laptop*So, they are all shapes and sizes, different races, and have different gimmicks. I felt that Gail was knocking WWE just because they are nice to look at. The only justifiable example (without a similiar WWE counterpart) is Amazing Kong who is pretty much obese and noone wants to see that anyways. Turning models into wrestlers isn't a bad thing. Look at Trish Stratus, she is probably the most popular female wrestler in the last 10 years, and was very fun to watch. Would she have been popular if she was fat? No. People don't give a **** about womens wrestling so there only chance to make it to the top is based on their looks, which people DO give a **** about. She is NOT knocking anyone. Oh yeah, because noone gives a **** about womens wrestling. Oh wait, I do. I'm soooo sorry that I don't want a bunch of bimbos that have no business in this business & was hired BASED ON THEIR LOOKS. That goes back to your comment about alot of knockouts being all from WWE - noitice anything diffrent? They.Can.Wrestle. TNA hired them for their talent not their looks. The only person I'm knocking here is Amazing Kong, because I hate monster characters. I hate Big Daddy V, I hate Khali, I hate Umaga, they just take up too much space and aren't interesting to me. No, you're knocking the full Knockout Division trying to put the WWE"s division above them. You're the one who start compareing the two division.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2007 19:06:43 GMT -5
I would like to take objection to Gails comments. While I agree the WWE womens division isn't as good as it has been, and their is a lot of fat that needs to be trimmed, TNAs isn't much better than the WWEs. Amazing Kong = Beth Phoenix Gail Kim = Mickie James Roxxi LeVeaux (she sucks!) = Torrie Wilson Jacqueline = Jillian Talia = Melina ODB = Victoria Christy = Maria Ms. Brooks = Candice Shelly = skank who will do anything for attention/money with supposed wrestling abilities I have yet to see. Lent absolutely nothing to the WWE womans division while she was there. I forgot the tenth knockout, but do you really need 10 in the chase anyways? I think its moreso the fact that the divas are on 2 different shows and the booking is terrible on both of them. If all the divas were on the same show it would be a lot better. Dude, did you say Nikki Roxx sucks? Invest in some SHIMMER.if anything Christy would be the equivalent to Torrie. And your analysis is actually very off the mark, considering it's be three weeks since most of the knockouts started with tna (new ones anyways) and if you checked out a lot of their indy stuff, you'd realize these woman are wrestlers, then hot chicks. not hot chicks trying to be wrestlers. in all honesty the woman's division is one of the few things TNA is doing right. EXACTLY. If Gail Kim wasn't in TNA, Roxxi would be the new champ. You don't know your women's wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2007 19:07:04 GMT -5
Am I the only that likes Roxxi I like Roxxi ... So do I.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Oct 19, 2007 12:25:38 GMT -5
Gail Kim is a "skinny model type"
LOL
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