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Post by ThugSuperstar on Mar 17, 2008 22:28:02 GMT -5
Now, here me out. I think the concept behind the match is great, and loved the idea when it was first done back at Wrestlemania 22. But here's why I think the match itself needs to go away for a few years:
1. There are WAY too many champions participating in the match who never wind up winning anyway. Having Jericho, Morrison and MVP in the match this year is pretty much pointless because those are 3 title matches we aren't getting at Wrestlemania. Remember when just about every title was defended at 'Mania? This year, there are THREE titles being defended, and I'm not sure you can even count the ECW title.
2. It seems like the MITB is just a cop-out for the writers to stick mid-carders in who they have no idea what to do with at Wrestlemania. Rather than try and put them in an actual storyline or do something with their character, putting them in the MITB match is an easy solution when the WWE has spent all their efforts on building up 4 matches on the show.
3. At least with the first and second MITB matches, there were some storylines that went into the match. The past 2 years, there was just nothing...no build-up whatsoever. It was just like, "you qualified, so we'll see you at Wrestlemania." There's nothing leading up to it really.
4. The "long shots" that are in the match that serve the same purpose as jobbers in the Royal Rumble match, which is just to serve as another body. Obviously, Morrison, Jericho and Carlito aren't winning the match this year. Why put them in it? This just goes back to the fact that there's no storyline behind the match itself and it all just seems like a random ladder match. Maybe if there was more build-up for the participants in the match, it would be more believable for someone else to win.
5. No matter who wins, we know when the title shot is going to be cashed in. Well, not the exact date - but we know that if a face wins (RVD, for instance), he's going to cash in the title shot in advance for build-up and crowd support; if a heel wins, he's going to cash in the briefcase at an inopportune time to get the cheap victory and draw heat on himself, leading towards the whole "can he beat him in a real title match?" angle. They need to do something different this year with whoever wins it.
I'm not saying to do away with the match entirely, but they need to rethink some things and maybe make it like the Elimination Chamber, where they do it once every few years rather than every year.
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Post by Mark on Mar 17, 2008 22:29:08 GMT -5
The MITB in the bank participants remind me of the people I book into one big ass match on SDVSR07 GM Mode when everyone else is already booked in a match.
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Post by Dee Dee King on Mar 17, 2008 22:34:28 GMT -5
I'm still wondering why there are only 7 people in it...I know Hardy is out, but they can't add someone as a substitute? We're gonna have a three sets of 1 on 1, and then one superstar will take a breather until another needs to rest (my point being, I think there should be an even number of participants). I'm pretty sure there will only be 7, Jim Ross kept milking on RAW "7 man MITB ladder match, bah gawd!!111"
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Post by hurricane on Mar 17, 2008 22:38:17 GMT -5
No but these threads are ruining the board
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Mar 17, 2008 22:38:59 GMT -5
No but these threads are ruining the board You're right. We're all supposed to agree with the random crap the WWE puts on the card for their "biggest show of the year." |
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Post by Iron Man on Mar 17, 2008 22:40:08 GMT -5
no, I think Jericho has a very good chance of winning. But he was booked very poorly latley. Shelton, Carlito, and Morrison have no chance winning.
I don't see Kennedy winning (which sucks) because he is still filming his movie and wont' have any momentum going in it.
Only people I can see are MVP and Jericho... POSSIBLY CM Punk but it would be for the ECW title anyway so there is no point if he won.
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Post by jake_317 on Mar 17, 2008 22:44:55 GMT -5
The MITB is for any championship legend. So, if CM Punk won, he could switch to any brand.
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Post by hurricane on Mar 17, 2008 22:46:09 GMT -5
No but these threads are ruining the board You're right. We're all supposed to agree with the random crap the WWE puts on the card for their "biggest show of the year." No it's just that there's a thread about people being sick of mitb every other day, with people making the same points. It's not like it's a god awful match between a bunch of nobodies. Sure it's a spotfest but it's the only one of the night, so why can't people just enjoy it? Or hell, maybe you could just not spend the money to watch it just to be pissed about it being on the card. |
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Post by Iron Man on Mar 17, 2008 22:47:45 GMT -5
The MITB is for any championship legend. So, if CM Punk won, he could switch to any brand. I know, but do you really think they would let Punk win MITB, and then challenge for the World/WWE title? Not unless it was RAW/Smackdown and he lost. |
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Mar 17, 2008 22:47:57 GMT -5
No but these threads are ruining the board You're right. We're all supposed to agree with the random crap the WWE puts on the card for their "biggest show of the year." I don't agree with you not posting your thoughts in the many other "OMFG MITB SUX" threads. |
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Post by American Phenom on Mar 17, 2008 22:51:32 GMT -5
Putting 7 mid-card guys in a "King of the Ring" style match?
Oh it sucks.
People just love to complain. If it weren't for Money in the Bank, at least 4 of those guys wouldn't even be on the card.
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Post by Johnny on Mar 17, 2008 22:52:26 GMT -5
MITB is awesome, IMO.
I hope they keep on doing it!
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Mar 17, 2008 22:52:42 GMT -5
You're right. We're all supposed to agree with the random crap the WWE puts on the card for their "biggest show of the year." Or hell, maybe you could just not spend the money to watch it just to be pissed about it being on the card. That logic is absolutely intellectually- disabled, no matter how many times you people try and use it as a valid point. If you're a die-hard sports fan and your favorite team is terrible, do you stop rooting for them? Do you stop going to games because they never win, stop cheering for them, stop buying merchandise, etc.? Not unless you're a fairweather fan, you don't. It's the same thing with the WWE...sure, it sucks, and Wrestlemania looks like it's going to be terrible, but that doesn't mean you have to pretend everything is wonderful and wear a big stupid smile on your face. We've all lowered our standards for the sake of today's wrestling product, but that still doesn't mean we have to agree with everything that goes on. |
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Mar 17, 2008 22:54:44 GMT -5
You're right. We're all supposed to agree with the random crap the WWE puts on the card for their "biggest show of the year." I don't agree with you not posting your thoughts in the many other "OMFG MITB SUX" threads. Yeah, sorry for not living on the forums every second of my life and keeping a list of what's been posted already. I check the first page, I didn't see anything about MITB, I made a thread. I'm not going back 5 pages to look. So sue me. |
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Post by Iron Man on Mar 17, 2008 22:56:29 GMT -5
Or hell, maybe you could just not spend the money to watch it just to be pissed about it being on the card. That logic is absolutely intellectually- disabled, no matter how many times you people try and use it as a valid point. If you're a die-hard sports fan and your favorite team is terrible, do you stop rooting for them? Do you stop going to games because they never win, stop cheering for them, stop buying merchandise, etc.? Not unless you're a fairweather fan, you don't. It's the same thing with the WWE...sure, it sucks, and Wrestlemania looks like it's going to be terrible, but that doesn't mean you have to pretend everything is wonderful and wear a big stupid smile on your face. We've all lowered our standards for the sake of today's wrestling product, but that still doesn't mean we have to agree with everything that goes on. It's his time of the month. Hurricane(c) bitches about everything tbh |
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Mar 17, 2008 22:57:32 GMT -5
I don't agree with you not posting your thoughts in the many other "OMFG MITB SUX" threads. Yeah, sorry for not living on the forums every second of my life and keeping a list of what's been posted already. I forgive you. |
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Post by kimberlysghost on Mar 17, 2008 22:59:00 GMT -5
Let's not have this turned into a fight. A great question was asked. Are WWE writers being lazy by sticking wrestlers into Money in the Bank instead of building up feuds?
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Post by Rog on Mar 17, 2008 22:59:42 GMT -5
1. There are WAY too many champions participating in the match who never wind up winning anyway. Having Jericho, Morrison and MVP in the match this year is pretty much pointless because those are 3 title matches we aren't getting at Wrestlemania. Remember when just about every title was defended at 'Mania? This year, there are THREE titles being defended, and I'm not sure you can even count the ECW title. I agree, it's almost a way for them just to have the champions on the card without needing to make fueds or any real solid reason for them to appear. Adding a fued in there would add to the match however i think the writers are missing the boat by not making fueds FROM the match. For example, Wrestler 1 screws wrestler 2 from winning the case and we have a instant fued on our hands for use going to Backlash. Or wrestler 3 and wrestler 4 work well together during the match and afterwads decide to team up and we have a new tag team to add to the division. But yes a little emotion being added to the match wouldn't hurt. This is simple; cos there have to be some people in there that either a) do a big fancy spot to woo the crowd or b) take the big bumps. Shelton is the perfect example of a) Now this isn't quite true. yes we've had the sneaky heel title win twice, however they were both done by Edge so it's more his thing. Kennedy also made his plans known to cash in at Wrestlemania, which i thought was a brilliant idea as it fitting his cocky arrogant gimmick to come out and tell everyone "i'm putting myself in Wrestlemania and theres nothing you can do about it." |
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Post by hurricane on Mar 17, 2008 23:01:29 GMT -5
Or hell, maybe you could just not spend the money to watch it just to be pissed about it being on the card. That logic is absolutely intellectually- disabled, no matter how many times you people try and use it as a valid point. If you're a die-hard sports fan and your favorite team is terrible, do you stop rooting for them? Do you stop going to games because they never win, stop cheering for them, stop buying merchandise, etc.? Not unless you're a fairweather fan, you don't. It's the same thing with the WWE...sure, it sucks, and Wrestlemania looks like it's going to be terrible, but that doesn't mean you have to pretend everything is wonderful and wear a big stupid smile on your face. We've all lowered our standards for the sake of today's wrestling product, but that still doesn't mean we have to agree with everything that goes on. Well ordering a ppv that you know you're not going to like just because you think it'll make you less of a fan not to is your own damn fault. And it's not just this time of the month, I always bitch. |
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Mar 17, 2008 23:05:05 GMT -5
That logic is absolutely intellectually- disabled, no matter how many times you people try and use it as a valid point. If you're a die-hard sports fan and your favorite team is terrible, do you stop rooting for them? Do you stop going to games because they never win, stop cheering for them, stop buying merchandise, etc.? Not unless you're a fairweather fan, you don't. It's the same thing with the WWE...sure, it sucks, and Wrestlemania looks like it's going to be terrible, but that doesn't mean you have to pretend everything is wonderful and wear a big stupid smile on your face. We've all lowered our standards for the sake of today's wrestling product, but that still doesn't mean we have to agree with everything that goes on. Well ordering a ppv that you know you're not going to like just because you think it'll make you less of a fan not to is your own damn fault. And it's not just this time of the month, I always bitch. Hey, I'm paying, I have a right to complain. It's as simple as that. |
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