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Post by Crimson Arrow on Jun 14, 2006 12:42:47 GMT -5
Two words on #2... HOLY CRAP!
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Post by kareem on Jun 14, 2006 18:33:19 GMT -5
Anyone that doesn't want issue #2 spoiled for them, would be advised to avoid the Yahoo homepage.
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Post by J Sylar on Jun 14, 2006 19:08:34 GMT -5
Anyone that doesn't want issue #2 spoiled for them, would be advised to avoid the Yahoo homepage. no kidding. I have two more words: Bendis SPOILER!! Yeah, I know Millar wrote this, but Bendis has had a hard on for unmasking Spidey for a while and he finally gets his wish. Between this and Quesada all but writing his and Mary Jane's divorce, I think Spidey is sufficiently ruined for the next few years. Honestly, I hope this makes Aunt May get killed, just to prove a point as to WHY they keep the mask on. But it doesn't matter because explaining it away will be difficult. Sorry....I had a fanboy explosion after reading it. I just think it was wrong and really felt forced. I think drawing out his decision would have been wiser. God, I'd HATE to visit the newsarama boards right now. I can already hear the flame war.
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Post by kareem on Jun 14, 2006 19:38:57 GMT -5
Spoiler:
I'm kind of curious to see where the new secret identities go. But I am glad to see the Young Avengers are going to have an active role in CW.
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Post by The Sam Kinnison Corps on Jun 14, 2006 21:17:20 GMT -5
Spoiler: I'm kind of curious to see where the new secret identities go. But I am glad to see the Young Avengers are going to have an active role in CW. Agreed, and I've never read YA. And I'm going to be patient on the big spoiler and how it plays out.
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Post by havoc on Jun 14, 2006 21:44:17 GMT -5
Am I the only one that's kinda happy that CW seems to be breaking the FF up, or at least distancing each of them? While I've never been a HUGE fan of FF I think this will give them a fresh start over. Also I picked up Wolverine 42, and while I prefer the Ramada art, I do like where this is going.
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Jun 15, 2006 6:40:56 GMT -5
Spoiler. Don't read any of this post until you've read the issue:
While I'm a huge Spider-Man fan so every fibre in my being is shouting "This is wrong!!!!!" I'm going to give it a chance. The character has had a secret ID for 40 years, I'm excited to see where this goes.
Pretty much every superhero already knows and they've dangled the carrot of telling Flash, Jonah, Robbie etc. for so long. At some point you have to show what happens when they learn the truth... now we get to see that (In Sensational Spider-Man apparently).
I have a feeling though that Spidey won't be on the side of the law for very long. Half way through this I see Spidey changing sides... and his ID has been revealed to make me a outlaw.
I'll miss his secret ID but I can't wait to see where they go with this. Everyone asks for change but then are scared when it happens... in the end, if it totally screws up the character he'll be back in his secret ID again in a few years.
It looks like Civil War is shaping to up to actually have an effect on the Marvel Universe.
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Post by Lennon on Jun 15, 2006 16:54:01 GMT -5
Being a huge fan of Spidey, this really bothered me, but I sorta figured it would happen eventually. I did not expect it to happen yet, however.
I can't wait to see where this goes, though. CW really is looking great so far.
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Post by kareem on Jun 15, 2006 17:06:32 GMT -5
Well, we know someone is switching sides. I'm certain that because he revealed his identity, Peter puts Mary Jane and May at risk. Something will happen to one or both them, and prompt him to switch sides.
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Post by T R W on Jun 15, 2006 22:08:35 GMT -5
I didn't think #2 was all that shocking. I mean, we already knew he was going to reveal his identity, so I was far from surprised. I liked the issue overall, and the possibilities of this.
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Jun 16, 2006 5:06:12 GMT -5
I didn't think #2 was all that shocking. I mean, we already knew he was going to reveal his identity, so I was far from surprised. I liked the issue overall, and the possibilities of this. It wasn't shocking per say... it's not like it wasn't where the story was heading, it's more like "Holy Crap Marvel actually had the stones to follow through with it!" I don't think that would of happened if any over character had unmasked at the end.
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Post by kimberlysghost on Jun 16, 2006 8:59:02 GMT -5
IMDB spoiled Civil War #2 for me. Cock fags. Kim
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Jun 16, 2006 10:22:51 GMT -5
I'm out of the loop. Is this like a comic book series just titled "Civil War" or something, or is it like one issue from each super hero dealing with it? So if you want the full story you have to buy the spiderman issue, capt. america issue, etc. I just saw this on the drudge report and was kinda curious.
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Post by Captain McKay on Jun 16, 2006 17:27:30 GMT -5
Honestly, I hope this makes Aunt May get killed, just to prove a point as to WHY they keep the mask on. But it doesn't matter because explaining it away will be difficult. It's been years since I read Spider-Man, back when the Ben Reilley nonsense was happening...but I was under the impression that she was already dead If someone would clear this up, that'd be great. And while we're at it, is Doc Ock still dead? I would think he's back again, after the success of Spider-Man 2.
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Jun 16, 2006 17:39:13 GMT -5
Honestly, I hope this makes Aunt May get killed, just to prove a point as to WHY they keep the mask on. But it doesn't matter because explaining it away will be difficult. It's been years since I read Spider-Man, back when the Ben Reilley nonsense was happening...but I was under the impression that she was already dead If someone would clear this up, that'd be great. And while we're at it, is Doc Ock still dead? I would think he's back again, after the success of Spider-Man 2. No it turned out the Aunt May who died was an actor hired by Norman Osborn AKA Green Goblin (Who was thought to be dead at the time.). It turned out Norman had kidnapped her. It was really a way to try and regress Peter back to the young character everyone remember him as. He had his Aunt May back, he was back at school, working at the Bugle... although JMS has turned Aunt May into an interesting character in his Amazing run so it turned out well in the end. Oh and Doc Ock was brought back by ninjas and Doc Ock 2... with no memory of who Spider-Mans ID was I'm out of the loop. Is this like a comic book series just titled "Civil War" or something, or is it like one issue from each super hero dealing with it? So if you want the full story you have to buy the spiderman issue, capt. america issue, etc. I just saw this on the drudge report and was kinda curious. It's a big event. There is a main series and then lots of tie ins Here is the checklist: www.marvel.com/globals/view_generic.htm?filename=/i/content/1241_full3758755.jpgFor a new fan, I'd say Civil War #1-7 is all you really need. Perhaps Civil War Frontline #1-10 if you want to see the more character moments. Over than that nothing is vital unless you enjoy the character in the main series and want to follow their story.
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Post by opportunist on Jun 16, 2006 20:09:02 GMT -5
Am I alone in thinking that Spidey unmasking just might be one of the most importaint comic moments in Marvel history? I mean, really. Spidey's ID (as with a great deal of all heroes) has always been one of his top priorities. Changing all that really does turn everything on it's ear.
CW is most likely gonna turn out to be the cornerstone of a whole new era in Marvel 616 continuity. . . . .
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Post by J Sylar on Jun 17, 2006 21:36:07 GMT -5
I still think killing either May or MJ will be the only way this can resonate, though maybe they'll take Flash Thompson out of his coma and make him mad at Peter. I really can't see Spidey going back under the mask for anything less.
So, from CW2, we know a few of the resistance: Daredevil (that BETTER be Hawkeye and some of his behavior is very Clint-esque), Cable, Cloak, Dagger, YA, Falcon, Cap. I miss anyone.
I see 42 will be Millar's stab at GitMo.
Millar has written some of the coolest Cap in years. He kicks ass. As I said before, Captain America should be written as "Jack Bauer as a superhero" and that's how he is here. Why can't an American write him this good? (Brubaker is close, but some of his stuff is almost Tom Clancy-ish, which to me = boring)
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Post by opportunist on Jun 17, 2006 23:37:31 GMT -5
Your assessment of Cap is pretty much dead on. . . . . Jack Bauer as a superhero is pretty good.
Under ordinary circumstances, I wouldn't say this. . . . .but I'm actually in favor of Marvel killing off either MJ or May. Killing off May would have kinda the same reprocussions as Uncle Ben's death at the start of Pete's Spidey career. His decision to unmask would be directly responsible for May's death, and he'd have to come to grips with his guilt, knowing that he should have been more responsible.
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Jun 18, 2006 8:22:59 GMT -5
I still think killing either May or MJ will be the only way this can resonate, though maybe they'll take Flash Thompson out of his coma and make him mad at Peter. I really can't see Spidey going back under the mask for anything less. So, from CW2, we know a few of the resistance: Daredevil (that BETTER be Hawkeye and some of his behavior is very Clint-esque), Cable, Cloak, Dagger, YA, Falcon, Cap. I miss anyone. I see 42 will be Millar's stab at GitMo. Millar has written some of the coolest Cap in years. He kicks ass. As I said before, Captain America should be written as "Jack Bauer as a superhero" and that's how he is here. Why can't an American write him this good? (Brubaker is close, but some of his stuff is almost Tom Clancy-ish, which to me = boring) Flash is already out of his coma and has been for a long time. He was in a wheel chair (although he couldn't move or talk) throughout Jenkins Spectacular run and a few months ago in Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man he got a job as a coach at the same school Peter works at... although he lost his memory of the last few years so is back to being high school Flash. Spoilers from PAD about Spider-Man and Flash: PAD said that Flash will want to be his best friend now he knows he's Spider-Man... but this will piss Peter off because they were best friends a few years ago regardless of his secret ID
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Post by doogle on Jun 18, 2006 9:51:45 GMT -5
What if it was a hologram that Stark made...hence the old costume...Peter could have wanted to back out but Stark didn't want his ace pulling out...so he had another card up his sleeve...this will undoubtedly piss peter off seeing Caps views on the act and leaving Stark.
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