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Post by Crimson Arrow on Jul 29, 2006 6:33:18 GMT -5
Crim, where do you get your Civil Wars from? I looked on eBay and they were about £3+ each. www.forbidden-planet.co.uk/The only hold the new issues on there though so you can only order from 4 onward. If you email them they have a few they didn't sell which they'll sell to you.
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Post by Kanenite on Jul 29, 2006 6:48:11 GMT -5
Cool, thanks. I'll see if they have them I go to Forbidden Planet in a few weeks.
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Jul 29, 2006 7:07:29 GMT -5
Cool, thanks. I'll see if they have them I go to Forbidden Planet in a few weeks. Try pick up some of the tie ins too. This is one of the best crossovers I've read
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Post by J Sylar on Jul 29, 2006 15:58:15 GMT -5
I think it might be Johnny Storm. Either way with Thor, supposedly, on the side of Iron Man...HOW THE FUNK DO YOU FIGHT A GOD? Doom! I dunno if anyone read Black Panther (I dont mornally, but it was a good CW tie-in and the variant Turner cover got me) but Doom's return will be mighty interesting in the coming months, I forsee.
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Jul 31, 2006 3:46:32 GMT -5
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Post by kimberlysghost on Jul 31, 2006 4:24:40 GMT -5
The more I read Civil War the less I like Iron Man. He really is ing up Spider-Man. Kim
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Post by T R W on Jul 31, 2006 7:42:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I never read Black Panther, but it was a nice issue. Some good stuff. I am interested to see where the thing with Doom will go.
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Post by cosmicspidey on Jul 31, 2006 17:37:31 GMT -5
Either way with Thor, supposedly, on the side of Iron Man...HOW THE FUNK DO YOU FIGHT A GOD? With a Sentry. Or a Hulk. Or the real Thor.
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Post by cosmicspidey on Jul 31, 2006 17:45:06 GMT -5
BTW-LOVED NA. The fact that Tony had them, at exactly midnight, right at Cage's door to force him one way or the other....Iron Man is a punk ass cracker. It's things like that that make me wonder how anyone could think the registration act, as it's set up, is a good. thing. Superheroes aren't being forced to register so that they can be superheroes. People with superpowers are being forced to register with the government regardless of whether or not they're using their powers (as evidenced by the fact that Luke Cage was doing nothing involving his powers when the assault team tried to take him down). It's exactly like the mutant registration act that was never passed because it wasn't constitutional. It's one thing to make people register in orfder to operate as superheroes, it's another to force anyone with superpowers to register, regardless of their desire to fight crime. The worst part is if you register, you're an agent of SHIELD, and you have to do what SHIELD tells you to do or else you face criminal penalties. So you can't even register to protect your own hide while supporting others' choices to not register, like Thing so desperately wants to do in Fantastic Four. Either you register and do exactlywhat SHIELD tells you or your a criminal. It's like a superhuman draft, and there's a reason they outlawed the draft.
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Post by T R W on Aug 1, 2006 19:54:41 GMT -5
Man, I hope the Hulk gets back before this is over. When he does get back, he's gonna be super pissed.
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Aug 2, 2006 3:46:04 GMT -5
Man, I hope the Hulk gets back before this is over. When he does get back, he's gonna be super pissed. Hulk still has another 6 or 7 issues to he gets off that planet. So even if got back straight away and there wasn't at arc about his journey back (which I doubt) he wouldn't be back in time. I'm thinking Hulk's return could be the smaller event Joe is talking back. Now a huge crossover but a big story shown in Hulk's title.
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Post by Billy on Aug 2, 2006 4:55:22 GMT -5
It seems far fetched, but someone here said Stark wailing on cap seemed way out of character, and they're right.
Almost like its what he planned to do.
I want it to be some big conspiracy between cap and tony where they were trying to derail the whole thing together all along. And for that to happen, Cap would have to "Die". Thus showing everyone what Americas heroes have been driven to, because of their government.
Granted there are numerous plot holes, and shuffles in continuity in that theory. But hey, they let it pass in Superman Returns, right?
My reasoning for that is mainly because, as it stands, Marvel has done a crappy job of making me care about anyone outside of Spidey, Tony, and Cap. I could care less if Hercules dies, or yellow jacket, or whomever else is involved. So I know if it isn't something huge, I'll feel all lackluster-like, and disappointed; especially with everything that has happened thus-far.
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Post by J Sylar on Aug 2, 2006 10:09:40 GMT -5
That...isnt too bad of a plan, actually. The ONLY probeljm I see is that, if the other heroes don't know the plan, then Spidey will have been UTTERLY misled to ruin his life. I mean, he's the hard-luck hero, but to end up doing all his to him for what amounts to nothing? That's torturing your character for no reason at all.
Besides, if Tony and Steven stood together AGAINST the bill and SHIELD, it couldnt have passed anyway. It would be a pretty dick move on both their parts to go that far just to prove a point. But it is Millar, and he doesnt fear doing such things, so...
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Aug 2, 2006 14:03:38 GMT -5
I don't think that'll happen. It just seems unlikely as Joe has said he wanted to get the heros to be against each other and have people fear them again like in the old days... the heroes are too chumy with the public and with each other.
I don't think at the end Iron Man and Cap will be shown to have been working together all along.
If people are finding Stark a tool, its the writing. I don't mind it and hope that Iron Man's tie in will show his arguement a bit better.
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Post by J Sylar on Aug 3, 2006 20:18:38 GMT -5
I don't think that'll happen. It just seems unlikely as Joe has said he wanted to get the heros to be against each other and have people fear them again like in the old days... the heroes are too chumy with the public and with each other. I don't think at the end Iron Man and Cap will be shown to have been working together all along. If people are finding Stark a tool, its the writing. I don't mind it and hope that Iron Man's tie in will show his arguement a bit better. But again...if we "only need to read Civil War", then we wont know that. If we're to see both sides, it should be in the main book, which it is not. And WTF about the people "fearing" heroes? THEY'RE HEROES, we arent SUPPOSED to fear them you stupid git (aimed at Joe Q, not present company)
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Post by cosmicspidey on Aug 4, 2006 15:52:11 GMT -5
I heard Tony Stark was brainwashed by some virus in his own book (when it that was way behind and done by Ellis and Granov), and that's why he's acting like a dick. I hope that's not the case, because it's much more interesting if he's just being a dick, and the virus would be a cop-out for the first crossover that's seemingly mattered in a long, long time. Of course, the virus wouldn't explain why all the other pro-regers are being dicks.
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Aug 5, 2006 11:52:57 GMT -5
I don't think that'll happen. It just seems unlikely as Joe has said he wanted to get the heros to be against each other and have people fear them again like in the old days... the heroes are too chumy with the public and with each other. I don't think at the end Iron Man and Cap will be shown to have been working together all along. If people are finding Stark a tool, its the writing. I don't mind it and hope that Iron Man's tie in will show his arguement a bit better. But again...if we "only need to read Civil War", then we wont know that. If we're to see both sides, it should be in the main book, which it is not. And WTF about the people "fearing" heroes? THEY'RE HEROES, we arent SUPPOSED to fear them you stupid git (aimed at Joe Q, not present company) I think he means like back in the 60's when Stan had the books Spider-Man was hated by the public, the X-Men were hated by the people they were trying to save, The Hulk was misunderstood by almost everyone. I get what your saying about only needing Civil War. Iron Man does come off like a tool in that book and most of the tie ins.
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Post by RAC on Aug 5, 2006 14:25:44 GMT -5
I stickied this thread since it's a major topic here.
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Post by heartbreakkid5000 on Aug 5, 2006 18:14:39 GMT -5
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Post by J Sylar on Aug 5, 2006 21:36:39 GMT -5
But again...if we "only need to read Civil War", then we wont know that. If we're to see both sides, it should be in the main book, which it is not. And WTF about the people "fearing" heroes? THEY'RE HEROES, we arent SUPPOSED to fear them you stupid git (aimed at Joe Q, not present company) I think he means like back in the 60's when Stan had the books Spider-Man was hated by the public, the X-Men were hated by the people they were trying to save, The Hulk was misunderstood by almost everyone. I get what your saying about only needing Civil War. Iron Man does come off like a tool in that book and most of the tie ins. But those characters were meant to be that way. NOT Captain America. Not Falcon. or Luke Cage. Some of these people are symbols of AMerica and freedom and all that god wholesome American stuff. SHIT, if thats the case and the people should welcome pro-reggers, then they'll "accept" Deadpool? Again, there is fault in Joey Q's logic.
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