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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jun 25, 2008 20:52:30 GMT -5
Iron Sheik...yeah, and everyone knows he's a ing psycho, so seeing sheik react like this, proves my point exactly. and notice honky said "We don't know what button she pushed" and 4:38 of the clip i presented would also apply to them, i'm pretty sure Sheik, Honky and New Jack didn't know Benoit hardly at all. Well, whatever button she may or may not have pressed, it certainly DID NOT deserve a ing death warrant!! Come on man...She and Daniel are the victims here...Would you please get your head out of your ass and stop sympathizing with that sick freak for once?? It's almost like you are siding with that guy or something...I don't get it. I just do not get it. You are certainly defending him and I am baffled why you would do such a thing after you know what the facts are and what he did. And seeing as they are wrestlers and were/are a part of the business, I'm sure they knew The Benoits a whole hell of alot more than you did.
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Post by codykelly on Jun 25, 2008 22:33:41 GMT -5
Its been so quick since the whole tragedy occurred. It was a great loss to the wrestling world. RIP couldn't say it better myself.
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Post by Thick Justice on Jun 25, 2008 22:38:31 GMT -5
Its been so quick since the whole tragedy occurred. It was a great loss to the wrestling world. RIP couldn't say it better myself. Exactly. I wish we would of gotten too see CM Punk vs. Benoit. I still consider it unsolved because of all the errors.
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Post by bigtaurus78 on Jun 25, 2008 22:48:20 GMT -5
couldn't say it better myself. Exactly. I wish we would of gotten too see CM Punk vs. Benoit. I still consider it unsolved because of all the errors. What was unsolved? His wife and kid were found dead and he was found hanging in his gym. There were no signs of forced entry. The CSI found no signs of any other parties being on the premesis and all forensic evidence points to murder suicide. Seriously, anyone who still thinks that something other than him killing his family and then himself happened is in the worst kind of denial.
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Post by TommyHyland46 on Jun 25, 2008 22:52:52 GMT -5
Iron Sheik...yeah, and everyone knows he's a ing psycho, so seeing sheik react like this, proves my point exactly. and notice honky said "We don't know what button she pushed" and 4:38 of the clip i presented would also apply to them, i'm pretty sure Sheik, Honky and New Jack didn't know Benoit hardly at all. Well, whatever button she may or may not have pressed, it certainly DID NOT deserve a ing death warrant!! Come on man...She and Daniel are the victims here...Would you please get your head out of your ass and stop sympathizing with that sick freak for once?? It's almost like you are siding with that guy or something...I don't get it. I just do not get it. You are certainly defending him and I am baffled why you would do such a thing after you know what the facts are and what he did. And seeing as they are wrestlers and were/are a part of the business, I'm sure they knew The Benoits a whole hell of alot more than you did. Yes, and Chavo, Rey, Scott Hall, and Cryme Tyme, all agree with me and you've just got that Psycho Sheik, New Jack and HTM on ur side. hmm...i'd take Chavo and Rey's opinion of SHeiks' any day. I'm not saying Nancy and Daniel aren't victims, but she chose to live and stay in that situation for a long, long time. If she filed divorce paper, why did she not follow through with the action? thats a decision she made and in doing so, put the child in harms way, since supposedly she knew what he was "capable of". I'm in NO WAY justifying it, but she could have been a lot smarter about it. This could have been avoided and all of a sudden, he makes 1 huge mistake in life, and everyone forgets about his 40 years before that. If i hear one more "Benoit Who?" comment, i'm going to flip the out. There's no reason to try to be clever or immature about this. If you can't discuss this logically, then there is no reason to speak on it. Quit shoving your opinion down my throat. Obviously i knew him better than you, and you can't deny that, so don't tell me my opinion is wrong.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jun 25, 2008 22:58:51 GMT -5
R.I.P. Chris, Nancy, and Daniel Benoit.
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Post by Iron Man on Jun 25, 2008 23:19:14 GMT -5
Meh, who the knows what happened inside that home and yet you people just think Benoit went all nuts and killed his family for no reason. Maybe the bitch wanted to try and kill him, who the knows
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jun 25, 2008 23:26:22 GMT -5
Meh, who the knows what happened inside that home and yet you people just think Benoit went all nuts and killed his family for no reason. Maybe the bitch wanted to try and kill him, who the knows That's true, we're just assuming he did it, because some people said it, but we'll never know.
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Post by bigtaurus78 on Jun 25, 2008 23:33:10 GMT -5
Meh, who the knows what happened inside that home and yet you people just think Benoit went all nuts and killed his family for no reason. Maybe the bitch wanted to try and kill him, who the knows Yeah, in self defense against a woman who was physically smaller and weaker than himself, Benoit tied her up, strangled her to death, laid a bible next to her, killed his even smaller and weaker son by strangulation the next day, laid a bible by him, and finished defending himself by hanging himself in his gym. That self defense can make you do some phuc-tup $h!+, huh?
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Post by takingyouout on Jun 25, 2008 23:36:33 GMT -5
Meh, who the knows what happened inside that home and yet you people just think Benoit went all nuts and killed his family for no reason. Maybe the bitch wanted to try and kill him, who the knows Yeah, in self defense against a woman who was physically smaller and weaker than himself, Benoit tied her up, strangled her to death, laid a bible next to her, killed his even smaller and weaker son by strangulation the next day, laid a bible by him, and finished defending himself by hanging himself in his gym. That self defense can make you do some phuc-tup $h!+, huh? Exactly man. Benoit did it. He was a child murdering, wife beating and murdering sick .
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Post by bigtaurus78 on Jun 25, 2008 23:42:34 GMT -5
That's true, we're just assuming he did it, because some people said it, but we'll never know. Yeah "some people" said it. Some people who spent years of training and education learning how to properly catalog evidence and properly test said evidence to reconstruct what happened at the scene of a crime in the event there were no witnesses. Yeah, "some people" who spend years in college learning almost as much about the human body as a doctor does so that when a body is found at a crime scene, said body can be examined for the cause of death and lead to evidence as to who killed them. That's right, let's ignore what those qualified people say and just come up with our own theories of what happened that day because God forbid that anyone comes to terms with the fact that maybe, just maybe Chris Benoit was a real scumbag all along.
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Post by Iron Man on Jun 25, 2008 23:51:02 GMT -5
That's true, we're just assuming he did it, because some people said it, but we'll never know. Yeah "some people" said it. Some people who spent years of training and education learning how to properly catalog evidence and properly test said evidence to reconstruct what happened at the scene of a crime in the event there were no witnesses. Yeah, "some people" who spend years in college learning almost as much about the human body as a doctor does so that when a body is found at a crime scene, said body can be examined for the cause of death and lead to evidence as to who killed them. That's right, let's ignore what those qualified people say and just come up with our own theories of what happened that day because God forbid that anyone comes to terms with the fact that maybe, just maybe Chris Benoit was a real scumbag all along. They will NEVER know what was the reason behind it. Doesn't matter if you have 20 years of education behind it, it is impossible.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jun 25, 2008 23:56:55 GMT -5
That's true, we're just assuming he did it, because some people said it, but we'll never know. Yeah "some people" said it. Some people who spent years of training and education learning how to properly catalog evidence and properly test said evidence to reconstruct what happened at the scene of a crime in the event there were no witnesses. Yeah, "some people" who spend years in college learning almost as much about the human body as a doctor does so that when a body is found at a crime scene, said body can be examined for the cause of death and lead to evidence as to who killed them. That's right, let's ignore what those qualified people say and just come up with our own theories of what happened that day because God forbid that anyone comes to terms with the fact that maybe, just maybe Chris Benoit was a real scumbag all along. They spend years to try to see what happened in a crime scene. There's to difficult to know what really happened, except if someone who was there or the guy who commited the crime tells us what happened. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by Angel Beast on Jun 26, 2008 0:05:01 GMT -5
That's true, we're just assuming he did it, because some people said it, but we'll never know. Yeah "some people" said it. Some people who spent years of training and education learning how to properly catalog evidence and properly test said evidence to reconstruct what happened at the scene of a crime in the event there were no witnesses. Yeah, "some people" who spend years in college learning almost as much about the human body as a doctor does so that when a body is found at a crime scene, said body can be examined for the cause of death and lead to evidence as to who killed them. That's right, let's ignore what those qualified people say and just come up with our own theories of what happened that day because God forbid that anyone comes to terms with the fact that maybe, just maybe Chris Benoit was a real scumbag all along. i have taken a forensics class and i have friends going into the fields of being CSIs and i can tell you its is possible for even the most experienced investigator to miss evidence or read the evidence wrong. now i don't how the investigators in this case handled the evidence to determine if the made a mistake or not i'm just letting you know it is possible for them to make mistakes.
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Post by bigtaurus78 on Jun 26, 2008 0:12:51 GMT -5
They will NEVER know what was the reason behind it. Doesn't matter if you have 20 years of education behind it, it is impossible. Who the hell cares what his "reason" was. He methodically killed a defenseless woman while she was tied up and then killed their sick child, those are the facts. There was no signs of forced entry into the house, those are the facts. He hung himself, those are the facts. Do you need a reason? I sure as hell don't. He did it, end of story.
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Post by bigtaurus78 on Jun 26, 2008 0:19:28 GMT -5
i have taken a forensics class and i have friends going into the fields of being CSIs and i can tell you its is possible for even the most experienced investigator to miss evidence or read the evidence wrong. now i don't how the investigators in this case handled the evidence to determine if the made a mistake or not i'm just letting you know it is possible for them to make mistakes. Oh, don't get me wrong, in any profession errors will always be made. But realistically, they would have to ignore a ton of evidence in order to erroneously claim that Benoit did it if someone else was responsible. It would be incredibly obvious if someone else did this. They would have to be the single worst forensics team in history to make that kind of error.
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Post by bigtaurus78 on Jun 26, 2008 0:37:24 GMT -5
They spend years to try to see what happened in a crime scene. There's to difficult to know what really happened, except if someone who was there or the guy who commited the crime tells us what happened. Correct me if I'm wrong. You're wrong and I will tell you why, for starters if someone else did this, they'd have to be a giant ninja or it would have had to have been a large group in order to kill Benoit's family right under his nose and be able to keep him at bay long enough to force him to hang himself. Chris Benoit was a strong man and he would have defended himself. The place would probably be wrecked. Also, there was no signs of forced entry. So unless it was someone they knew, even then after killing Nancy, Chris would have fought back. Also, one of the investigating officers said that at first they couldn't tell how Daniel was strangled due to the bruising until they saw a tape of Benoit performing the crossface. So unless the killer was Benoit's same height and weight and Benoit just sat around while his son was strangled to death in the same house, there was no one else there that weekend. Hell, Chris Benoit called WWE management and lied saying that Nancy and Daniel were sick when they were in fact already dead. If he didn't do it, why would he lie? Why not call the cops? If you are going to discredit the investigators and say that they are wrong and what happens at a crime scene can never be fully determined, then we might as well let out every single inmate that was ever convicted based on forensic evidence alone. Chris Benoit was no one influential, he was a professional wrestler. There is no point in covering up what happened if someone else did it. Chris Benoit was not the beloved hero you all thought he was. He had a darker side that manifested itself that weekend. So unless someone here was there when it happened, I think I'll stick with the Police's findings.
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Post by fallenhero on Jun 26, 2008 0:51:39 GMT -5
couldn't say it better myself. Exactly. I wish we would of gotten too see CM Punk vs. Benoit. I still consider it unsolved because of all the errors. I don't give a if we would have seen that match or not, I just wish the entire damn thing didn't happen.
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Post by sycho1warrior on Jun 26, 2008 1:10:30 GMT -5
R.I.P Nancy, R.I.P Daniel
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Post by Fury on Jun 26, 2008 1:52:31 GMT -5
I don't think anyone should parade around like their right and people are wrong in something like this, there really are no right or wrongs in a tragedy like this.
However that being said it is a real shame that Benoit's legacy is tarnished because of this disgusting act, I can never view him the same now.
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