Eskimo Joe
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Post by Eskimo Joe on Dec 28, 2007 20:23:08 GMT -5
Aside from continually employing Vince Russo, what do you think the biggest mistake TNA is making storyline/on camera-wise?
I think it is the blatant waste of AJ Styles. This guy is the best thing since Shawn Michaels and stuck tagging with Tomko (nothing against Tomko, but he doesn't work the same style AJ does) and wrestling against guys that don't compliment his style. He is the biggest potential draw TNA has right now, and they are wasting him.
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Post by P@ul on Dec 28, 2007 20:52:19 GMT -5
As a casual viewer, when watching I find the storylines don't carry enough weight behind them. I was confused with one segment this past week. In an interview the interviewer said Scott Steiner had a case with a world title shot, but then he picked another case, and now has an X-division shot. It was confusing ... and what is Scott Steiner of all people doing in the X-divison? I thought the X-division was suppose to be one of the innovative draws for this company and that it was known for it's high-flying competators?
Some people like the idea of the two ramps for the heels and faces, however, if the program was booked properly wouldn't the casual viewer be able to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys? There is also too much focus on the stars being brought in from WWE. Compare Tomko and Chris Daniels. Daniels has been with the company for a much longer period and in my eyes is the superior wrestler. TNA said on this weeks show that he was fired last week and was crying. Even when he 'was with the company' he would be teaming with XXX at PPV's in the opening bout. Tomko, who was a jobber in WWE, enters TNA and destroys the home grown talent and wins a tag title. What does that say about the TNA talent ... "We're not as good as a WWE jobber?" If that is the case then why am I watching the show when I can easily change the channel to WWE programming.
I challenge someone to find one original TNA talent that has risen to become a superstar in the company. The reason Angle, Sting, and Booker T are at the top is because they are Angle, Sting, and Booker T. Look at WWE and a superstar like MVP. When he first began he was this new nobody who looked like a power ranger, and now? When watching WWE programming he is taken as a serious wrestler and the fans respond to him. TNA has yet to build their own talent. WWE knows how to create characters and storylines that draw a response out of the viewer and makes them want to tune in next week to see what is going to happen. A fued about a pissed off rat phobic Kaz and a mentally diseased Dustin Rhodes doesn't make me want to order a PPV.
They can't make all these changes cold turkey, but every week they should start shifting in a new direction. Are they doing this? no. Will they? We can only hope.
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Post by Heresy on Dec 28, 2007 20:59:48 GMT -5
Not effectively pushing and marketing homegrowns. "The Phenominal" AJ Styles is a marketing goldmine that TNA has ignorantly failed to tap into since landing a televison deal. Roode/Tracy is a marketable commodity that can seperate TNA from the rest if main evented. Alex Shelley is over as hell and can do wonders for TNA's main event with a revived Paparazzi gimmick. Same with guys like Christopher Daniels, James Storm, Frankie Kazarian, Abyss, and Samoa Joe... these guys could make TNA money if they bothered to develop and market their characters.
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Post by cccmrkennedy on Dec 28, 2007 21:07:47 GMT -5
The complete over-use of gimmick matches.
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Post by Blackjack on Dec 28, 2007 21:41:25 GMT -5
rarly/never booking their top stars on Impact
Kurt Angle Christian Joe Aj Styles wrestle like once every 2 or 3 weeks
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Post by Adam on Dec 28, 2007 21:46:38 GMT -5
Where do I start...
Making the the former face of TNA look like a total idiot?
Every other match a gimmick match?
Trying to take shortcuts to success by signing numerous established stars?
Not trying to create their own identity by not establishing their own stars?
I don't know, feel free to decide.
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Post by Does that make me bad? on Dec 28, 2007 22:40:01 GMT -5
3d in X division match
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Post by Matt on Dec 28, 2007 22:56:49 GMT -5
I find it amazing how people think TNA can grow with home grown talent only. TNA does not have a big enough fan base to have a home grown talent World Champion. TNA is trying to grow a fan base by bringing in a casual viewer. Casual viewers are not going to watch AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels because they don't know who they are. To them it would just be wrestling. However, if they are surfing through the channels and see Sting on TV, chances are they might tune in for at least that segment to see a wrestler they once admired. But to be fair, TNA almost created two big stars, but they dropped the ball.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Dec 28, 2007 23:18:42 GMT -5
Aside from continually employing Vince Russo, what do you think the biggest mistake TNA is making storyline/on camera-wise? I think it is the blatant waste of AJ Styles. This guy is the best thing since Shawn Michaels and stuck tagging with Tomko (nothing against Tomko, but he doesn't work the same style AJ does) and wrestling against guys that don't compliment his style. He is the biggest potential draw TNA has right now, and they are wasting him. There's a bit of a flaw in comparing AJ Styles to HBK, then complaining about him tagging with a guy who doesn't work his style (Dudes with Attitudes, anyone?)...but other than that, I agree that AJ is misused. Here you have TNA's most successful homegrown talent, first Triple Crown winner, former World Champion, multiple time Mr. TNA, yada yada yada...and now he's been relegated to a role where he wears stupid costumes and can't decide which former WWE Superstar's ass he wants to kiss. All of TNA's homegrown talent is misused... Samoa Joe, like Monty Brown before him, was the most over guy in the company, but "Creative" never saw fit to put the title on him. Eric Young, whose action figure bio touts him as having "Sound technical skill" and "the best top-rope elbow in recent memory," and whom the fans love both in and out of the ring, has never had a proper singles push. The Roode/Traci/#1 Fan storyline just keeps dragging ooooon and ooooonnnnn. Somewhere along the line, Chris Harris became a whiny bitch. Abyss is stuck playing the Undertaker in a feud from 10 years ago.
Come to think of it, their not-so-homegrown talent is equally misused. Sting has had 3 or 4 nostalgia runs. He's quickly turning into TNA's Hulk Hogan. Dustin Rhodes can't decide who he's feuding with. Johnny Stamboli went from Rellik to Rebboj in the span of about 2 weeks. Kurt Angle is just a hot mess. Christian Cage and Booker T are fighting to be Flavor of the Weak. Matt Morgan, to my knowlege, has yet to have a match. The injury-prone Dr. Nash insists on returning to the ring, while his buddy Scott is too sick and tired to be sick and tired. If the Catholic Church hadn't cancelled Limbo, Raven and Rhino would be there. And Scott Steiner and Team 3D are in the X-Division...I'm going to repeat that last part, because it bears repeating...THE X-DIVISION. Seems like the only part of the roster that appears properly managed is the tag division, minus its champions. So, to answer the question in short, the bigest problem with TNA is roster mismanagement.
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Post by brm on Dec 28, 2007 23:53:32 GMT -5
I have to agree that the waste of AJ Styles is the biggest mistake. TNA could have continued to build the product around him (2005) but instead, they make him out to be the next Eric Young.
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Post by deskjet on Dec 29, 2007 0:54:02 GMT -5
I see styles currently having a feud down the road with both his former "bosses" propelling him to the World Title
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Dec 29, 2007 1:01:37 GMT -5
I see styles currently having a feud down the road with both his former "bosses" propelling him to the World Title Those three could probably put on a half-decent Ultimate X match, if TNA didn't keep wasting the concept on the likes of Team 3D.
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Post by nohomo on Dec 29, 2007 1:03:13 GMT -5
My main complaint with TNA is that in their five years of existance, they really haven't done anything. Have any of you ever watched a TNA show and felt like you just HAD to see their next show or PPV? They've never done anything all too interesting or important. I believe it was Eric Bischoff who said that they never "grabbed anyone". That's basically what I am getting at.
That, and relying solely on WWE rejects to keep people tuning in.
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Post by GreatJunta36 on Dec 29, 2007 10:35:19 GMT -5
My opinion is that having 99% of their shows in the same arena is the biggest mistake. How do you have a true scope of what the world thinks of your product when it's being dictated by the same 500 people every single week?
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Post by nohomo on Dec 29, 2007 12:22:06 GMT -5
My opinion is that having 99% of their shows in the same arena is the biggest mistake. How do you have a true scope of what the world thinks of your product when it's being dictated by the same 500 people every single week? Thousands of people visit Orlando every day at least, so there is the potential of different people from different places seeing the shows. I'm sure they have regulars, but I actually don't think there are too many. I know I would get sick of paying the entrance fee for Universal Studios five times a month. WCW did the exact same thing years ago, and they were just fine in Universal Studios.
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Eskimo Joe
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Post by Eskimo Joe on Dec 29, 2007 12:43:57 GMT -5
I see styles currently having a feud down the road with both his former "bosses" propelling him to the World Title Those would be some awesome matches, but I don't trust TNA to make that much sense. He'll probably have some tag team feuds that lead no where. Thousands of people visit Orlando every day at least, so there is the potential of different people from different places seeing the shows. I'm sure they have regulars, but I actually don't think there are too many. I know I would get sick of paying the entrance fee for Universal Studios five times a month. WCW did the exact same thing years ago, and they were just fine in Universal Studios. Actually, they let you in a side entrance if you're going to Impact. You don't have to pay the park fee. My brother went to a show and said it seemed like there were a lot of regulars, but there was still room for other people to get in.
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Post by Jord on Dec 29, 2007 12:52:47 GMT -5
The complete over-use of gimmick matches.
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Post by deskjet on Dec 29, 2007 13:06:07 GMT -5
My main complaint with TNA is that in their five years of existance, they really haven't done anything. Have any of you ever watched a TNA show and felt like you just HAD to see their next show or PPV? They've never done anything all too interesting or important. I believe it was Eric Bischoff who said that they never "grabbed anyone". That's basically what I am getting at. That, and relying solely on WWE rejects to keep people tuning in. yea, i think bischoff said something to the effect that they dont get it, and honestly they dont! A title at the beginning of the show does not make it feel like I'm watching a sit com. And someone deciding who he will side with with hardly any build up is not a cliff hanger ending. You wanna start a show...recap, dont do a theme then tell us what the theme is...that practically gives the show away and insults our intelligence.
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Post by mrchase on Dec 29, 2007 13:46:10 GMT -5
Aside from continually employing Vince Russo, what do you think the biggest mistake TNA is making storyline/on camera-wise? I think it is the blatant waste of AJ Styles. This guy is the best thing since Shawn Michaels and stuck tagging with Tomko (nothing against Tomko, but he doesn't work the same style AJ does) and wrestling against guys that don't compliment his style. He is the biggest potential draw TNA has right now, and they are wasting him. you don't even know aj styles wrestling style today . i just saw a.j vs lo-ki on IGF & A.j. has changed his wrestling style to more heavywieght style like christians. it looks like a.j is getting ready to go WWE how he wrestles know.
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Post by Mastermind on Dec 29, 2007 14:31:38 GMT -5
The storylines suck.id rather there not be any backstage segments..aj styles and others shouldnt be trying to figure out whos side they are on when they are just as good if not better than them..and that robert roode and that lady in the crowd thing has been goin on way too long..lol..its just gets boring to people..
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