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Post by ll ALASKA ll on Aug 10, 2008 11:22:54 GMT -5
That punch by Brock Lesnar was insane. I thought the guy was going to be knocked out cuz he rolled backwards.
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Post by ajstyles888 on Aug 10, 2008 11:30:18 GMT -5
Good job GSP !
- Iron Heart
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Aug 10, 2008 12:51:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I forgot to mention that I won $10 off some bets I made last night. I still have yet to get the money though. My older brother bet me $5 on the Lesnar/Herring fight. He was picking Herring and I picked Lesnar. And my buddy bet against GSP for the 3rd straight time for $5 when he picked Fitch and I of course, picked GSP.
When will that goof ever learn to not bet against GSP? You would think he would've learned his lesson when GSP beat Hughes for the 2nd time in dominant & convincing fashing, but nope.
He bet against him again at UFC #83 when GSP took on Matt Serra. Lord only knows what he was thinking there....And last night he did it again and lost. Hey man, any time he feels the need to bet against GSP, I'll be there to take his money each & every time. LOL.
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Post by moogie101 on Aug 10, 2008 14:24:42 GMT -5
WellI still find GSP unlikeable but against the no.1 contender he looked impressive. Problem for Fitch was that everything he is good at, GSP is great at but damn is fitch tough as nails.
So pleased to see Florian get the win, as expected crisp technical striking against Huerta basically trying to mug him! But I really believed Ken Fl would finish him, huerta got out of some tough positions & looked good in defeat.
Then we have Lesnar/ herring. I posted on here several times about hoping heat would win & I was gutted to watch this. However brock looked impressive over since an experienced force especially with it only being his third fight.
Really think he might have a career in the uFC after all
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Post by oafc on Aug 10, 2008 15:46:25 GMT -5
UFC 87, great event from start to finish. Kongo looked good against Everson but don't think the guy shud even of been in UFC in 1st place. Loved the Maia vs McDonald, big respect to the latter for hanging in there. Then to Lesnar, what a punch and the follow up tackle made me jump out of my seat, would'velike to see Brock finish it but obviously he wants to get the rounds and experience in. GSP awesome as usual and once again big respect to Fitch for taking that beating and still coming back for more. Bring on UFC 88
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Aug 10, 2008 16:15:25 GMT -5
Quite a good night for the UFC. Given Brock's ultra-dominant performance, I'll say this now: if the buyrate of this PPV comes back strong, Brock's next match might just be a #1 Contendership. No matter if you love him or hate him, Brock had game in that fight. It's a good time to be an MMA fan, gents. Regardless of the buyrate, it could be a #1 contendership fight. Why? Because the HW division is pretty weak right now, and Brock just beat a man who is a legit contender. Herring wasn't coming off a loss. He was coming off a win over Kongo, who is another legit contender. |
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Post by PdW2kX on Aug 10, 2008 16:46:14 GMT -5
That's true, Sweeney.
But think of it this way: it'll be a while before Mir and Nog clash. They've got an entire series of TUF to get through, you know.
I still say, let's do this: book Gonzaga vs. Kongo. Whoever wins, let him go up against Lesnar. Whoever wins that fight, let him go up against Mir or Nog.
Perhaps Brock should face one more guy before taking on the winner of Gonzaga/Kongo, but for the life of me I just can't think of anyone. I'm honestly drawing a blank because the HW division is definitely the slimmest in the UFC.
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Post by Creative Has Nothing for Me on Aug 10, 2008 17:22:55 GMT -5
I think it's safe to say Brock wanted that match to go 15 minutes. Herring got NOTHING the entire fight and Lesnar I feel, could've ended it with that guillotine after that Jason Takes Manhattan like punch. Brock reminded me of my cat that had a mouse once. They were in outside and the mouse wasn't getting away. My cat knew it, the mouse knew it. But still, the cat kept toying with him just to do it. I've no doubt Brock could've ended this one 1st round. 15 minutes of trying to contain a guy like Herring looked like an easy feat for Lesnar, but he did it the entire match. I think if he tones down his aggression from his first fight and meets somewhere in the middle of this most recent match, he will dominate.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Aug 10, 2008 18:21:41 GMT -5
Perhaps Brock should face one more guy before taking on the winner of Gonzaga/Kongo, but for the life of me I just can't think of anyone. They're also cultivating Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez in the heavyweight division, but after Cain's domination of Jake O'Brien, I don't think they're going to pair him up with Lesnar until one of the two is near the top of the division, if not champion. No sense risking one guy embarrassing the other this soon if they've both got a chance to get much higher in the pecking order first. |
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Post by DWright on Aug 10, 2008 20:44:37 GMT -5
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Post by jomoishollywood on Aug 10, 2008 21:05:08 GMT -5
Its not that hard to learn how to put in a choke, guys.
Lesnar hardly did anything either, besides lying on him the whole match.
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Post by DWright on Aug 10, 2008 22:26:22 GMT -5
Its not that hard to learn how to put in a choke, guys. Lesnar hardly did anything either, besides lying on him the whole match. Did you...watch the fight? Lesnar had countless take downs, some vicious knee's in the clinch, some vicious knees on the ground, some SHOTS to Herrings ears (ever been hit in the ear? it really makes you dizzy and offsets your equilibrium)...Lesnar kept moving during the entire fight, kept working and kept Herring from getting any leverage, or even a chance to get in any position to protect himself. Lesnar obviously needs to learn more and mature as a fighter. I was surprised to see him not even attempt to lock in hooks to set in a RNC, but I honestly think he wanted that fight to go 15 and wanted to knock out Herring in his home state and prove a point. Seriously, people will never be satisfied. Lesnar just put away a guy that was probably a top 15 HW and was coming off a win against Kongo. He didn't just beat Herring (who is a legit HW and a guy with 40+ fight experience all over the world), he DOMINATED him. People say "lay off Kimbo, it's only his 3rd fight" after people complain that he looks like shit. This was Lesnar's 3rd fight, and he beat a legit fighter. |
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Post by Codesters on Aug 10, 2008 22:39:23 GMT -5
Its not that hard to learn how to put in a choke, guys. Lesnar hardly did anything either, besides lying on him the whole match. Did you...watch the fight? Lesnar had countless take downs, some vicious knee's in the clinch, some vicious knees on the ground, some SHOTS to Herrings ears (ever been hit in the ear? it really makes you dizzy and offsets your equilibrium)...Lesnar kept moving during the entire fight, kept working and kept Herring from getting any leverage, or even a chance to get in any position to protect himself. Lesnar obviously needs to learn more and mature as a fighter. I was surprised to see him not even attempt to lock in hooks to set in a RNC, but I honestly think he wanted that fight to go 15 and wanted to knock out Herring in his home state and prove a point. Seriously, people will never be satisfied. Lesnar just put away a guy that was probably a top 15 HW and was coming off a win against Kongo. He didn't just beat Herring (who is a legit HW and a guy with 40+ fight experience all over the world), he DOMINATED him. People say "lay off Kimbo, it's only his 3rd fight" after people complain that he looks like ****. This was Lesnar's 3rd fight, and he beat a legit fighter. I agree. If all Lesnar did was lay on Herring, then why did Heath's face look like he headbuted a cactus? |
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Post by Sandy on Aug 11, 2008 0:34:02 GMT -5
Amazing card.
I was genuinely entertained from start to finish. Who the hell gets the fight of the night? I can see it going to almost any fight on that card.
Kongo doesn't look impressive at all in anything besides his striking. But a good win nonetheless.
Gsp dominated as I expected I think everyone gave Fitch a bigger advantage than he deserved.
I wanted Huerta to win but I knew he would be getting his first loss to Florian, the guy is a beast..a little nerdy beast.
Macdonald vs Maia was my personal favorite fight of the night. That first round was amazing. I have really grown to like Jason as his jiu jitsu is sick.
Lesnar got a very good win. He didn't just get a quick win he gutted out an impressive win over a named fighter. That first punch was brutal..as was the tackle after the punch. He moves like a god damn welterweight.
Good night.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Aug 11, 2008 2:23:18 GMT -5
The Lesnar fight made me a little mad. He did nothing. I know he isn't experienced but when Josh Koscheck made his first few fights people crapon him and hated him saying all he does is blanket people. Well last night Lesnar did the same thing and gets the benefit of the doubt. Also he was very very very lucky he did not have points taken away for knees to the spine. That is a big time no no. And he did it about 20 times without even a warning. He did not impress me. And his actions after the fight were just childish and stupid.
The GSP, Fitch fight was great. And Jon showed how much heart he has. And GSP showed why he is such an amazing fighter. And it is amazing how he has taken to world class wrestlers and dominated them at it.
Florian did an amazing job. And Huerta just did not want to loose that fight. He took some amazing blows.
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Post by DWright on Aug 11, 2008 2:37:03 GMT -5
The Lesnar fight made me a little mad. He did nothing. I know he isn't experienced but when Josh Koscheck made his first few fights people **** on him and hated him saying all he does is blanket people. Well last night Lesnar did the same thing and gets the benefit of the doubt. Also he was very very very lucky he did not have points taken away for knees to the spine. That is a big time no no. And he did it about 20 times without even a warning. He did not impress me. And his actions after the fight were just childish and stupid. The GSP, Fitch fight was great. And Jon showed how much heart he has. And GSP showed why he is such an amazing fighter. And it is amazing how he has taken to world class wrestlers and dominated them at it. Florian did an amazing job. And Huerta just did not want to loose that fight. He took some amazing blows. I usually agree with you, but here is one I can't. (minus what I thought about the Lesnar fight, a few posts up) I've seen a few people complain about Lesnars antics after the fight, and I just don't get it... GSP often does backflips, Quarry literally made a mockery of his fight, Grove has a 30 minute grave digging ceremony when he rarely wins (like that jab? I hate Kendall), Liddell screams and throws his arms out (probably a reaction to the blow, but still), etc, etc, etc...and no one complains. Lesnar was in his home town, it's pretty well documented he's kinda an arrogant prick, he has his first UFC win and people jump on him for it. I mean, he looked like an idiot...but I have no problem with it. I had a bigger problem that after every round, it looked like Lesnar shoved Herring a bit. That irked me a little, but the post fight celebration didn't bother me at all. Rich Clementi dropping his balls on Melvin Guillards head (though funny, since Guillard is a punk), or Kid Yamamoto continuing to beat on a lifeless opponent after the ref tried to stop him, the bell rang, the corners ran in, etc...that **** bothers me. Lesnar might have taken it a bit far trying to "ride him" (though I did chuckle)...but I've seen worse. I mean, he looked like an idiot...but it didn't bother me. |
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Aug 11, 2008 2:46:55 GMT -5
The Lesnar fight made me a little mad. He did nothing. I know he isn't experienced but when Josh Koscheck made his first few fights people **** on him and hated him saying all he does is blanket people. Well last night Lesnar did the same thing and gets the benefit of the doubt. Also he was very very very lucky he did not have points taken away for knees to the spine. That is a big time no no. And he did it about 20 times without even a warning. He did not impress me. And his actions after the fight were just childish and stupid. The GSP, Fitch fight was great. And Jon showed how much heart he has. And GSP showed why he is such an amazing fighter. And it is amazing how he has taken to world class wrestlers and dominated them at it. Florian did an amazing job. And Huerta just did not want to loose that fight. He took some amazing blows. I usually agree with you, but here is one I can't. (minus what I thought about the Lesnar fight, a few posts up) I've seen a few people complain about Lesnars antics after the fight, and I just don't get it... GSP often does backflips, Quarry literally made a mockery of his fight, Grove has a 30 minute grave digging ceremony when he rarely wins (like that jab? I hate Kendall), Liddell screams and throws his arms out (probably a reaction to the blow, but still), etc, etc, etc...and no one complains. Lesnar was in his home town, it's pretty well documented he's kinda an arrogant prick, he has his first UFC win and people jump on him for it. I mean, he looked like an idiot...but I have no problem with it. I had a bigger problem that after every round, it looked like Lesnar shoved Herring a bit. That irked me a little, but the post fight celebration didn't bother me at all. Rich Clementi dropping his balls on Melvin Guillards head (though funny, since Guillard is a punk), or Kid Yamamoto continuing to beat on a lifeless opponent after the ref tried to stop him, the bell rang, the corners ran in, etc...that **** bothers me. Lesnar might have taken it a bit far trying to "ride him" (though I did chuckle)...but I've seen worse. I mean, he looked like an idiot...but it didn't bother me. I dunno. It's just the way he went about doing it. I agree with the other fighters also taking it overboard as well. Also was it me or did anyone else notice Lesnar being gassed about 2 minutes in the first round. He had his mouth wide open gasping for air. As I was sitting their with my friends I came to the idea that the best thing Brock Lesnar could do is get ahold of Matt Hughes and start training with him. I think if he had a coach like Hughes he could easily become one of the greatest of all time. |
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Post by DWright on Aug 11, 2008 2:59:47 GMT -5
I usually agree with you, but here is one I can't. (minus what I thought about the Lesnar fight, a few posts up) I've seen a few people complain about Lesnars antics after the fight, and I just don't get it... GSP often does backflips, Quarry literally made a mockery of his fight, Grove has a 30 minute grave digging ceremony when he rarely wins (like that jab? I hate Kendall), Liddell screams and throws his arms out (probably a reaction to the blow, but still), etc, etc, etc...and no one complains. Lesnar was in his home town, it's pretty well documented he's kinda an arrogant prick, he has his first UFC win and people jump on him for it. I mean, he looked like an idiot...but I have no problem with it. I had a bigger problem that after every round, it looked like Lesnar shoved Herring a bit. That irked me a little, but the post fight celebration didn't bother me at all. Rich Clementi dropping his balls on Melvin Guillards head (though funny, since Guillard is a punk), or Kid Yamamoto continuing to beat on a lifeless opponent after the ref tried to stop him, the bell rang, the corners ran in, etc...that **** bothers me. Lesnar might have taken it a bit far trying to "ride him" (though I did chuckle)...but I've seen worse. I mean, he looked like an idiot...but it didn't bother me. I dunno. It's just the way he went about doing it. I agree with the other fighters also taking it overboard as well. Also was it me or did anyone else notice Lesnar being gassed about 2 minutes in the first round. He had his mouth wide open gasping for air. As I was sitting their with my friends I came to the idea that the best thing Brock Lesnar could do is get ahold of Matt Hughes and start training with him. I think if he had a coach like Hughes he could easily become one of the greatest of all time. Well he does train off and on with Sherk, who's always in great shape. I'm still one that questions if Brock is in the MMA game for the long run. I'm glad he won to at least keep his spirits up and make him realize he could be a real force. His track record doesn't really make me believe he's completely serious. I'm hoping he proves me wrong. |
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Post by johnnymalloy on Aug 11, 2008 4:41:52 GMT -5
The Lesnar fight made me a little mad. He did nothing. I know he isn't experienced but when Josh Koscheck made his first few fights people **** on him and hated him saying all he does is blanket people. Well last night Lesnar did the same thing and gets the benefit of the doubt. Also he was very very very lucky he did not have points taken away for knees to the spine. That is a big time no no. And he did it about 20 times without even a warning. He did not impress me. And his actions after the fight were just childish and stupid. The GSP, Fitch fight was great. And Jon showed how much heart he has. And GSP showed why he is such an amazing fighter. And it is amazing how he has taken to world class wrestlers and dominated them at it. Florian did an amazing job. And Huerta just did not want to loose that fight. He took some amazing blows. I had a problem with Kos and his "lay and pray" back in the day...because kos would take the guy down, and literally just hold onto them...no punches, no position advancement, nothing... thank god kos has improved 1000x |
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Post by moogie101 on Aug 11, 2008 5:03:29 GMT -5
As for Lesnars next fight, I say Kongo.
The UFC have built him up as a killer striker so would be a decent name for Brock as far as the UFC heavyweight scene goes. Plus Heath owned Kongo on the ground, so Lesnar provided he don't get caught going in should take this.
The problem then is that above Lesnar you'll have Nog, Mir & Werdum all top submission guys, I hope Brock is keeping up his BJJ classes to at least be able to defend them.
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