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Post by Graze on Aug 7, 2008 13:56:38 GMT -5
But as far as the WWE goes, they don't give a crap about your wrestling talent. If was based on wrestling talent, Jamie Noble, London, Kendrick would be world champs
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Post by Sims on Aug 7, 2008 13:57:23 GMT -5
But as far as the WWE goes, they don't give a **** about your wrestling talent. If was based on wrestling talent, Jamie Noble, London, Kendrick would be world champs lol well you got me there. |
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Aug 7, 2008 14:16:26 GMT -5
Khali wins this hands down. Whoever thinks Lesnar shouldn't have been given his huge push or deserve his first title doesn't appreciate the void Lesnar was filling, (Austin & Rock were to be both gone for a good while, whilst Lesnar was champ, their two biggest names and they needed someone new to be on top). If Lesnar was not given that championship, he would never have had the career he had in the WWE. It was simply his time. No, Lesnar was given the title far too soon.. As for filling a void left by Austin and the Rock - Lesnar was never going to come close to filling the void left by those two icons.. Those two were the backbone of the company, and nobody was (and nobody really has been able to since) going to live up to anything they did in their WWE careers - especially a personality and charisma-free zone, like Brock Lesnar.. Lesnar was given the title solely due to Vince's hard-on for muclebound meatheads (just like Lashley after him).. Lesnar got really stale, really quickly and if he hadn't left, when he did, then he was in danger of becoming what Cena is now.. As it was, Lesnar's WWE career didn't amount to much - and he's certainly not been missed.. |
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Post by papiontheshortbus on Aug 7, 2008 14:23:32 GMT -5
Chris Benoit, he sucked ass Didn't Beniot work his ass off for 20 years before WWE gave him the strap. |
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 7, 2008 14:54:15 GMT -5
CM Punk. He has been here for a year and a half, jobbed to Chavo and Regal within the past few months, tapping to Regal, and he hasn't won a decent match since becoming champ. How did Hogan not deserve it? He got teases in AWA which the fans went nuts for, he had more charisma than anyone in WWF at the time, and he was a hero to millions. He also carried the WWF on his shoulders for 6 years. Plus, he was one of the only guys Vince could trust not to show up "in no condition to perform". You Hate-A-Maniacs are a joke. Regardless of your sour grapes, much like Ric Flair in the NWA, Hulk is and forever will be 'The Man'.
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Post by v/\v on Aug 7, 2008 14:59:51 GMT -5
Khali wins this hands down. Whoever thinks Lesnar shouldn't have been given his huge push or deserve his first title doesn't appreciate the void Lesnar was filling, (Austin & Rock were to be both gone for a good while, whilst Lesnar was champ, their two biggest names and they needed someone new to be on top). If Lesnar was not given that championship, he would never have had the career he had in the WWE. It was simply his time. No, Lesnar was given the title far too soon.. As for filling a void left by Austin and the Rock - Lesnar was never going to come close to filling the void left by those two icons.. Those two were the backbone of the company, and nobody was (and nobody really has been able to since) going to live up to anything they did in their WWE careers - especially a personality and charisma-free zone, like Brock Lesnar.. Lesnar was given the title solely due to Vince's hard-on for muclebound meatheads (just like Lashley after him).. Lesnar got really stale, really quickly and if he hadn't left, when he did, then he was in danger of becoming what Cena is now.. As it was, Lesnar's WWE career didn't amount to much - and he's certainly not been missed.. He was the best they had at that time to go with to fill that void. They knew they only had Rock for a couple of months when Lesnar burst onto the scene and he could wrestle a 5 star match. He didn't have charisma? You don't need charisma when you have Paul Heyman. He was given his push because he had the look, the talent and the mouthpiece to carry the company through a transitional period for the company. I'm sure a lot of people miss him and the wwe would be better if Lesnar never left. As for giving him the title far too soon, if he was made to wait for a few more months or even years, he would have completely lost all his steam and his championship run would not have had anywhere near the same impact he had when he beat The Rock. |
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Post by Greg Weinstein on Aug 7, 2008 15:09:16 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar's first reign or Vince McMahon. I strongly disagree. |
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Post by robby.blade on Aug 7, 2008 15:35:46 GMT -5
Chris Benoit, he sucked ass Didn't Beniot work his ass off for 20 years before WWE gave him the strap. Chris Benoit was extremely desurving of the title. The only reason you say he didn't desurve it is because of the whole murder-suicide thing. Brock Lesnar's first reign or Vince McMahon. Lesnar was actually built up good enough to be champion. It's not like he won a few matches, then got the title. Sure he was only apart of the main roster for like four months, but they built him up as an unstoppable monster, and Brock could actually wrestle. He wasn't like Khali, who is built as an unstoppable monster, but can't do crap in the ring. |
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Post by HugoOne on Aug 7, 2008 15:51:16 GMT -5
John Cena Or Hulk Hogan. Both Forced To Be Popular, When In Real Wrestling They Would Be Owned Rofl, Same With Batista Not even going to bother reading other responses, what exactly is real wrestling? Amateur wrestling? Of course they wouldn't be good at that, over half the roster wouldn't be, they're not trained. I have yet to see what "real" professional wrestling is, either. If you mean in a real fight, then that's different, although Cena is tough as nails. Nobody was forced to be popular, the crowd started cheering for Cena when he was a heel so the WWE ran with it. Hogan was in the right place at the right time and knew how to work a crowd. They didn't cheer for them because they had to, they cheered because they wanted to. I'd have to go with Vince McMahon. Despite everything he's done for the business, he's a great owner, but to put the WWE Championship belt on him is just an ego boost on his own part. |
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Post by King Silva on Aug 7, 2008 16:05:39 GMT -5
My pick would probably have to be the Great Khali. The guy can't wrestle at all, and the belt was only put on him because smackdown was suffering pretty bad on account of the "World Champion Curse." I agree. Khali has the honor of being the WORST World Heavyweight champ. He sucked as champ and should NEVER even compete for a title at a PPV because he ruins the match!  Is it too much to ask for him to be released so he can go plague TNA with his ****ty wrestling? WORST WWE champ goes to Vince Mcmahon because he made himself champ because he can.. WORST ECW champ is also Vince Mcmahon for the same reason as above. |
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Post by hulksterdaman on Aug 7, 2008 16:23:51 GMT -5
easily jbl. he went from comedy tag team opener to main eventer to champion in a ridiculously short amount of time. "Ha-hahaha-ha-he-ho-ha-hehe-ho. And I thought MY jokes were bad." |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Aug 7, 2008 16:54:01 GMT -5
All the people saying Cena. Top merch draw, draws younger fans in, puts people in seats, world champ material right there. Hogan wasn't a great wrestler, yet someone he gets away with it while Cena doesn't? Yeah, whatever. As a business move, you know to make money, which all businesses do, Cena is perfect for the WHC or WWE title. Yeah but with Cena as champion, they were getting the worst ratings in 10 years, and I don't believe younger fans started watching for Cena, if a little kid is going to watch wrestling, he/she will watch no matter who the champion is, and I believe DX sells more merchandise than Cena but whatever. |
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Aug 7, 2008 18:54:14 GMT -5
All the people saying Cena. Top merch draw, draws younger fans in, puts people in seats, world champ material right there. Hogan wasn't a great wrestler, yet someone he gets away with it while Cena doesn't? Yeah, whatever. As a business move, you know to make money, which all businesses do, Cena is perfect for the WHC or WWE title. Yeah but with Cena as champion, they were getting the worst ratings in 10 years, and I don't believe younger fans started watching for Cena, if a little kid is going to watch wrestling, he/she will watch no matter who the champion is, and I believe DX sells more merchandise than Cena but whatever. And all that fine D-Generation X merchandise is available at our souvenir stands, and at WWEShop.com. |
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Post by brimstone9 on Aug 7, 2008 19:23:02 GMT -5
I would say Randy Orton's first reign, just didn't seem fitting at the time
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Post by jericholic226 on Aug 7, 2008 19:29:38 GMT -5
khali hands down
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Post by Adam on Aug 7, 2008 20:50:57 GMT -5
Randy Orton, and not just because I've never liked him. I think he's gotten way too many chances. He's failed drug tests and acted like a tool backstage all the while knowing his job was safe since he's close with Vince and Triple H. I also thought it was ridiculous that he was pushed to the main event scene at the exact time last year when the WWE was under fire for steroids after Benoit's death. I just don't think it's fair when guys like him get an unlimited amount of chances while other guys are held down for the same reasons. Look at Kennedy...he was about to embark on the biggest push on his career, failed a drug test and now what's he doing? Orton failed a drug test and was given the WWE Title. Holy crap, there are people who feel the same way. |
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Post by PWC-NYG on Aug 7, 2008 21:16:06 GMT -5
Orton for sure.
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Post by Sexy White Chocolate on Aug 7, 2008 21:47:03 GMT -5
Mysterio shouldve never got the title at all, McMahon should nevr have held his own company's title or the ECW, no matter how entertaining he is. I also dont think Triple H should have his current reign. Orton was doing fine before Triple H threw him to the floor
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Post by wwemnm576 on Aug 7, 2008 22:11:49 GMT -5
HW: The Great Khali (Reign Sucked)
ECW: Vince (Took away the original ECW.)
WWE: John Cena (Cant Wrestle worth crap)
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Post by Edge618 on Aug 7, 2008 22:12:25 GMT -5
Granted, the circumstances in which he was given the belt were wrong - but to say Mysterio didn't deserve to win the big one, is ridiculous.. I am just saying, he says CM Punk didn't deserve it, yet he likes the guy that can't wrestle. Whether or not Jeff Hardy can, or cannot wrestle.. the fact is that no matter how many misdemeanours he's had, he fully deserves to win either the WWE or WHC, due to continuously putting his body on the line and the hard work and effort, he's put into entertaining the fans over his ten year plus, WWE career - same goes for Matt.. Jeff Hardy doesnt deserve a WWE title. I give him props for putting his body on the line, but he's not reliable and had numerous suspensions. What are they to do if they put the belt on him and he gets busted for a 3rd suspension?? All they can do is say "OOPS, How stupid were we for giving that guy a chance?" And believe me, Jeff Hardy has not seen his last WWE suspension. |
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