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Post by Codesters on Sept 4, 2008 22:00:14 GMT -5
It's all about the monaaayyy.. Also, I say why not?.. Lets see what Lesnar can do against a BIG name, and a bona fide icon in the world of MMA - then we'll see if he is indeed the real deal, and has a definite future in the sport.. A big name? He's already had two fights with big name Heavyweights.
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Post by NYdream™ on Sept 4, 2008 22:42:44 GMT -5
Basically, If Lesnar beats Couture then we can officially call him the number one HW in the UFC. No doubt. Even though he may have gotten a shortcut to the title because of his name, if he wins he is the number one and will deffinatly bea BIG name fighter.
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Post by Codesters on Sept 5, 2008 13:55:54 GMT -5
Basically, If Lesnar beats Couture then we can officially call him the number one HW in the UFC. No doubt. Even though he may have gotten a shortcut to the title because of his name, if he wins he is the number one and will deffinatly bea BIG name fighter. i dont think Lesnar can be considered #1 heavyweight in the UFC until He: A. Beats couture B. Beats the winner of NOG vs Mir
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Post by Bruiser Brody on Sept 19, 2008 23:10:53 GMT -5
Has he earned a title shot in his next fight? No. Does he deserve to be in the spot he is in? Yes. Sure he should probably fight Kongo next and maybe even Coleman (due to respect). But damn, he should have beat Mir and he dominated Herring. Mir is getting a title shot. Herring ed up or would have beat Noguiera. The UFC is doing the correct thing and cahing in on Lesnar's name. And hey, the guy is legit. Of course Couture is a hero of mine in MMA so I hate to see either one lose but hope it is at least a good, close fight.
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Post by dwadeluxe on Sept 20, 2008 1:53:51 GMT -5
yes he does
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Post by ajstyles888 on Sept 20, 2008 9:33:36 GMT -5
As of now ? No. If he beats Randy ? Yes.
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Post by NYdream™ on Sept 20, 2008 11:21:32 GMT -5
Basically, If Lesnar beats Couture then we can officially call him the number one HW in the UFC. No doubt. Even though he may have gotten a shortcut to the title because of his name, if he wins he is the number one and will deffinatly bea BIG name fighter. i dont think Lesnar can be considered #1 heavyweight in the UFC until He: A. Beats couture B. Beats the winner of NOG vs Mir actually didnt even think of that.
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Post by K5 on Sept 21, 2008 21:15:11 GMT -5
he doesn't deserve it, no. however his credibility will skyrocket if he is to win
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Post by thisistna on Sept 23, 2008 13:36:37 GMT -5
No, the UFC are just giving him this because he is a known name. Or maybe they are putting him up against a legend, just so he could get his butt handed to him and he'll change sports again.
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Post by DWright on Sept 23, 2008 13:41:46 GMT -5
No, the UFC are just giving him this because he is a known name. Or maybe they are putting him up against a legend, just so he could get his butt handed to him and he'll change sports again. Yes, ZUFFA gave him a huge contract, then wants him to face someone to lose, so he quits. It sounds like a terrific business move... ...what?
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Post by Graze on Sept 23, 2008 16:25:54 GMT -5
The bottom line is, nobody in that division INCLUDING Nogueira is a bigger potential PPV draw vs. Randy Couture than Brock Lesnar. That's why Brock was main eventing as a rookie in the first place, and that's why he's fighting Randy Couture in November. The title, unfortunately, is almost an afterthought for this fight. The goal here isn't to give the most worthy opponent a title shot. The goal is to bring back Randy Couture (a good-to-great PPV draw) against the opponent that is most likely to draw the highest possible PPV buyrate. That guy is Brock Lesnar. And it drives some people crazy, but it's a fact. Welcome to a star-driven U.S. culture. 100% argee. The only reason Lesnar is getting a shot is because of the money this match will make. This is a money fight.
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Post by kennethtogash on Oct 1, 2008 8:05:53 GMT -5
Even if he was undefeated it is too early. He needs a few more fights and needs to win them. Couture is going to take him out in under a minute.
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Post by BigShab421 on Oct 2, 2008 20:40:19 GMT -5
No, but he brings in viewers with his name.
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Post by Stinger TNA on Oct 3, 2008 20:04:41 GMT -5
Not yet. Eventually, like in the next year or so yes, but there are others who should go before him, like Nog or Mir.
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Post by Stinger TNA on Oct 3, 2008 20:05:42 GMT -5
Basically, If Lesnar beats Couture then we can officially call him the number one HW in the UFC. No doubt. Even though he may have gotten a shortcut to the title because of his name, if he wins he is the number one and will deffinatly bea BIG name fighter. i dont think Lesnar can be considered #1 heavyweight in the UFC until He: A. Beats couture B. Beats the winner of NOG vs and Mir Fixed
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Post by DWright on Oct 3, 2008 20:47:51 GMT -5
Not yet. Eventually, like in the next year or so yes, but there are others who should go before him, like Nog or Mir. Mir should get a shot by beating Hardonk/Lesnar? But Lesnar shouldn't get a shot...? I'm confused. To the people that say Lesnar doesn't deserve a title shot in this thread (Many of which don't even watch MMA), I'd love to know who they feel deserves to be in his place right now.
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Post by NYdream™ on Oct 3, 2008 21:12:58 GMT -5
I believe Lesnar deserves the shot. Basically because there is nobody else more deserving. Mir already gets a shot at NOG and the interim title so to say Mir or NOG deserve a shot makes no point as NOG is already a champion.
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Post by Sandy on Oct 3, 2008 23:42:07 GMT -5
UFC's HW division is weak. It is doing a little better with Randy Couture back but honestly look at it. It is not as deep as every other division in the UFC.
you got Kongo, Herring, Mir, Nog, Couture, and that is pretty much it. Who is Brock supposed to face after beating Herring? Kongo? That would do nothing for Lesnar or the UFC so why would they even book that match.
Bottomline Lesnar dominated Herring with ease...he proved that he deserves to be in the UFC. He is a young guy just starting out and he beat a seasoned vet in the MMA game..
I say absolutely he deserves it and I also think he will win.
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Post by Codesters on Oct 4, 2008 11:33:33 GMT -5
i dont think Lesnar can be considered #1 heavyweight in the UFC until He: A. Beats couture B. Beats the winner of NOG vs and Mir Fixed That would make no sense. If Lesnar fought the winner of Nog and Mir, which will be Nog then why would he still have to fight Mir? And honestly Mir hasn't done anything that really even should put him in the Title shot postition.
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Post by NYdream™ on Oct 4, 2008 11:37:53 GMT -5
That would make no sense. If Lesnar fought the winner of Nog and Mir, which will be Nog then why would he still have to fight Mir? And honestly Mir hasn't done anything that really even should put him in the Title shot postition. The reason he has to fight Mir IMO is to avenge the loss on his record.
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